shook_17;1771657 wrote:No way a quality GM comes here and gets stuck with Pettine. Wont happen, so if the keep farmer they are going to promote from within. If Pettine stays O'Niel has to go

HighRoller74;1771665 wrote:This was really all you needed to say. Cleveland will not get a known GM regardless of who the coach is or is not. We will be stuck with a retread or a young up-and-coming guy trying to make his mark where he couldn't care less of who his head coaches the front office is such a dumpster fire anyone proving will not touch it unless they have Cleveland hometown ties.

Laley23;1771672 wrote:I might be the only person who thinks Connor Cook is going to be a very good pro. Everyone I talk to thinks he will suck (with a few OKs). Lol

HighRoller74;1771674 wrote:The biggest red-flag I have with him, is he doesn't have the leadership qualities needed for a Top QB.

Laley23;1771675 wrote:I haven't gotten to sit down and watch MSU with that keen of an eye to be judging something like that, but curious as to what you see (or don't see)??

Laley23;1771675 wrote:I haven't gotten to sit down and watch MSU with that keen of an eye to be judging something like that, but curious as to what you see (or don't see)??

SportsAndLady;1771676 wrote:Well he is an all American senior QB and wasn't voted a team captain lol so that's a start.

like_that;1771638 wrote:That tells me they are ok to roll out Jff next season.

Sonofanump;1771687 wrote:Maybe I misunderstand you, I think Farmer was the JFF champion and Petite was reluctant to start such a erratic player.

HighRoller74;1771674 wrote:The biggest red-flag I have with him, is he doesn't have the leadership qualities needed for a Top QB.

BR1986FB;1771690 wrote:Serviceable backup, just like Johnny.

HighRoller74;1771673 wrote:And outside of Holmgren, they were all guys looking to make their make in the league, and get their first job as "the Man", which is what I claimed was possible.

I don't see us getting a highly sought after, well known GM. With the quick trigger that Haslam, has shown these guys aren't going to risk coming here, and not getting immediate results, and being shown the door.

Commander of Awesome;1771698 wrote:Well if they're a "high sought after" GM, that would mean they're proven and successful correct? If they're proven and successful, they already have a job with a proven and successful organization. Why would they leave to make a lateral move? This arguement/QQing going on in this thread is asinine. Might as well say, lets sign Tom Brady, a proven and successful QB. There's a reason you don't see Ozzie Newsome leave the Ravens for fucks sakes.

SportsAndLady;1771700 wrote:Agree with this.

There's probably 7 highly sought after GM's in the NFL, no shit the Browns aren't going to get one.

Now, that being said, I think there will be some sought after HC's that I think the Browns lose out on (if they do Fire Pettine, which they should).

Commander of Awesome;1771701 wrote:Thinking about some of the "big" FA Coaches we have missed on. Chip, LOL. Doug Marrone, LOL. Trestman? LOL

Bunch of QQing woe is me going on in this thread.

SportsAndLady;1771700 wrote:Agree with this.

There's probably 7 highly sought after GM's in the NFL, no shit the Browns aren't going to get one.

Now, that being said, I think there will be some sought after HC's that I think the Browns lose out on (if they do Fire Pettine, which they should).

like_that;1771703 wrote:I don't think they should fire pettine for the sole reason of continuity. The Browns have a bad enough reputation in terms of stability. It might be taking a step backward, but in the long run it might have the franchise by giving pettine a third year.

Commander of Awesome;1771701 wrote:Thinking about some of the "big" FA Coaches we have missed on. Chip, LOL. Doug Marrone, LOL. Trestman? LOL

Bunch of QQing woe is me going on in this thread.

SportsAndLady;1771716 wrote:Off the top of my head, Mike zimmer and Bruce Arians were supposed to be Browns HC candidates.

I'm not QQ'ing you fucking moron. The Browns never get the "right" head coach.

Commander of Awesome;1771732 wrote:No one said you were QQing little guy. It was highroller and br QQing.

As for Zimmer, right there with you. You, like_that, and myself to name a few wanted him. However to my knowledge we passed or didn't even interview him smh (same as Arians). Thus he didn't spurn us, aka turn us down. Which was my point. Chip, strung us along to increase his salary with the iggles.

Commander of Awesome;1771732 wrote:No one said you were QQing little guy. It was highroller and br QQing.

As for Zimmer, right there with you. You, like_that, and myself to name a few wanted him. However to my knowledge we passed or didn't even interview him smh (same as Arians). Thus he didn't spurn us, aka turn us down. Which was my point. Chip, strung us along to increase his salary with the iggles.

SportsAndLady;1771741 wrote:My bad it sounded like you were saying the QQ thing to me when I said we won't get top notch HC candidates.

I think we did interview Arians, but we got too butthurt when he told us what was wrong with the franchise and he walked out. Smh

HighRoller74;1771743 wrote:If I recall correctly, we interviewed him....he told the Hiring group all the stuff wrong with the organization, and we didn't bring him back for a 2nd.