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Nov 18, 2015 9:51 AM
BR1986FB;1764263 wrote:I know Pettine is gone but I think Farmer could weather the storm. Why, I don't know.
Because the owner is a dope?
Nov 18, 2015 9:51am
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Con_Alma

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Nov 18, 2015 10:08 AM
I'm hearing that Petine is gone because he won't separate from O'neil. In addition, it sounds like Farmer is gone too which in my opinion is more important.

Looks like a complete start over...again.
Nov 18, 2015 10:08am
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Nov 18, 2015 10:46 AM
Con_Alma;1764286 wrote:I'm hearing that Petine is gone because he won't separate from O'neil. In addition, it sounds like Farmer is gone too which in my opinion is more important.

Looks like a complete start over...again.
I love when you guys say this shit without providing any sources.
Nov 18, 2015 10:46am
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Nov 18, 2015 10:47 AM
I'm hearing that Petine is gone because he won't separate from O'neil.
O'Neil is running Pettine's system, so he sees no reason to get rid of him. Not to mention that he played for Pettine's father and they are best friends, and Pettine gave him his NFL start.

They are 2 peas in a pod running the only system either guy knows. It is the one Rex taught Pettine. He has no experience doing anything but what he is right now. It is why there are no adjustments no matter how bad things get.

Pettine thinks his system is gold and that any failure is on the players to implement it properly. It is why Jim O'Neil has been absolved of any blame and there is never any talk of his job security as long as Mike is around. O'Neil has done exactly as Pettine wants.
Nov 18, 2015 10:47am
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Nov 18, 2015 11:51 AM
IggyPride00;1764300 wrote:O'Neil is running Pettine's system, so he sees no reason to get rid of him. Not to mention that he played for Pettine's father and they are best friends, and Pettine gave him his NFL start.

They are 2 peas in a pod running the only system either guy knows. It is the one Rex taught Pettine. He has no experience doing anything but what he is right now. It is why there are no adjustments no matter how bad things get.

Pettine thinks his system is gold and that any failure is on the players to implement it properly. It is why Jim O'Neil has been absolved of any blame and there is never any talk of his job security as long as Mike is around. O'Neil has done exactly as Pettine wants.
In a nutshell, Pettine has said that he's involved with the defense but he & O'Neil are in such "lockstep" that it doesn't matter who is calling out the defense because it's going to be the same.
Nov 18, 2015 11:51am
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BR1986FB

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Nov 18, 2015 11:52 AM
like_that;1764299 wrote:I love when you guys say this shit without providing any sources.
Don't quote me on this but I think it was Greg Cosell who made one of the comments, and no, I don't have a "link."
Nov 18, 2015 11:52am
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Nov 18, 2015 1:27 PM
BR1986FB;1764317 wrote:Don't quote me on this but I think it was Greg Cosell who made one of the comments, and no, I don't have a "link."
So you have nothing but a random persons opinion?
Nov 18, 2015 1:27pm
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Nov 18, 2015 1:46 PM
like_that;1764299 wrote:I love when you guys say this shit without providing any sources.
Is it hard to believe some people actually have sources? I mean I wouldn't trust one from FW or iggy, but some of us know people in the business.
Nov 18, 2015 1:46pm
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Nov 18, 2015 2:02 PM
DeyDurkie5;1764335 wrote:So you have nothing but a random persons opinion?
Greg Cosell isnt random.
Nov 18, 2015 2:02pm
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Nov 18, 2015 3:49 PM
iclfan2;1764343 wrote:Is it hard to believe some people actually have sources? I mean I wouldn't trust one from FW or iggy, but some of us know people in the business.
Yes actually. I put it up there with all the bill cowhers house in strongsville rumors.

At least establish some credibility. " hear such and such" is not as strong of a statement from "I heard such and such from such and such." It all comes off as radio gossip bullshit.
Nov 18, 2015 3:49pm
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Nov 18, 2015 4:17 PM
I agree with you on stupid ass rumors that make no sense, and I wouldn't trust many people on an Internet forum either. But I personally have an in who was correct on such random shit as they really like orchard and may reach for him, and then they did. If someone's source is read it on a message board then yea it's stupid.


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Nov 18, 2015 4:17pm
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Nov 18, 2015 4:20 PM
Giving up actual sources could only do harm to that persons job opportunities in the future if it ever got back to the organization or those in charge


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Nov 18, 2015 4:20pm
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Nov 18, 2015 4:26 PM
iclfan2;1764374 wrote:I agree with you on stupid ass rumors that make no sense, and I wouldn't trust many people on an Internet forum either. But I personally have an in who was correct on such random shit as they really like orchard and may reach for him, and then they did. If someone's source is read it on a message board then yea it's stupid.


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I'm talking about the people who say they heard something when they clearly reds it or heard it on the radio. Just fucking tell us where.

Your case is rare, and not even what I am referring to.
Nov 18, 2015 4:26pm
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Nov 18, 2015 4:27 PM
Laley23;1764350 wrote:Greg Cosell isnt random.
Greg cosell doesn't know shit about the Browns. 99% of the football world and media not affiliated with Cleveland doesn't know or car about the Browns. He is just giving his opinion based on nothing. And then someone(BRSPN) posts "hearing through sources that this is gonna happen". It's dumb
Nov 18, 2015 4:27pm
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Nov 18, 2015 4:27 PM
Gotcha. Then agreed. Especially if they heard it from some asshole like grossi or rizzo. The Browns hate local media and grossi or mkc haven't had a source in years


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Nov 18, 2015 4:27pm
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Nov 18, 2015 4:28 PM
"Where'd you hear that rumor?"

"Oh this anonymous poster on this message board I post on said it. They have inside sources."

Yeah, i'll continue to not believe that anyone here has "inside" sources within the Cleveland Browns.
Nov 18, 2015 4:28pm
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Nov 18, 2015 6:50 PM
DeyDurkie5;1764379 wrote:Greg cosell doesn't know shit about the Browns. 99% of the football world and media not affiliated with Cleveland doesn't know or car about the Browns. He is just giving his opinion based on nothing. And then someone(BRSPN) posts "hearing through sources that this is gonna happen". It's dumb
Who said anything about "sources?" Nobody here has any. The closest I can recall was when lhs knew an agent, or something like that, for Alex Mack awhile ago.
Nov 18, 2015 6:50pm
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Nov 18, 2015 7:20 PM
not just sources but "inside sources". :laugh:
Nov 18, 2015 7:20pm
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Nov 18, 2015 9:17 PM
BR1986FB;1764414 wrote: The closest I can recall was when lhs knew an agent, or something like that, for Alex Mack awhile ago.
And even then that wasn't like a real, consistent source, it just so happened we had a long conversation about Mack because he was there for UofA athletes (long story short UofA pre-empted impermissible agent contact by hosting agents on campus).
Nov 18, 2015 9:17pm
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Nov 22, 2015 4:23 PM
Ravens, Lions, and Cowboys all win today. Only three teams left @ 2 wins.
Nov 22, 2015 4:23pm
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Nov 22, 2015 4:31 PM
HighRoller74;1763655 wrote:Mariota, First Career start, First Career game.

13/16 209yards 4TD, 0int, 0Fmb, 158.3 QB Rtg. And most importantly a WIN.
SportsAndLady;1763657 wrote:Derek Carr, 5th game: 18/34 282 yards, 4 TD's, 1 INT
HighRoller74;1763658 wrote:Bridgewater 2nd Career Game, 2nd Career Start

19/30 317 yards 0 TD, 0 int, 0 Fumbles, 1 Rushing TD QB rating 98.9, most importantly, a WIN.
Guess we can add Winston to this list, even though it wasn't his first 5 career games, it was career game #10:

19/29, 246 Yards, 5 TD's, 0 INT's.
Nov 22, 2015 4:31pm
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Nov 22, 2015 5:35 PM
SportsAndLady;1765099 wrote:Guess we can add Winston to this list, even though it wasn't his first 5 career games, it was career game #10:

19/29, 246 Yards, 5 TD's, 0 INT's.
You can add the kid who made his first start for Denver today.
Nov 22, 2015 5:35pm
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Nov 23, 2015 2:24 AM
SportsAndLady;1765099 wrote:Guess we can add Winston to this list, even though it wasn't his first 5 career games, it was career game #10:

19/29, 246 Yards, 5 TD's, 0 INT's.
All you need to know is that Manziel is going to be the quarterback in this town for a long, long time. Either get on board or GTFO.
Nov 23, 2015 2:24am
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Nov 23, 2015 7:21 PM
like_that;1764378 wrote:I'm talking about the people who say they heard something when they clearly reds it or heard it on the radio. Just fucking tell us where.

Your case is rare, and not even what I am referring to.
It is funny when people reds stuff.
Nov 23, 2015 7:21pm