Bio-Hazzzzard
Posts: 1,027
Sep 23, 2015 10:13pm
http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/23/news/companies/volkswagen-emissions-crisis/
I'm not buying that the CEO was unaware of this. I wonder how much money this will cost VW not only in lawsuits but future sales as well.
I'm not buying that the CEO was unaware of this. I wonder how much money this will cost VW not only in lawsuits but future sales as well.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Sep 23, 2015 10:53pm
Understanding the j1939 protocol in relationship to the ecm unit any alteration is a planned and researched development project.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Sep 24, 2015 12:08am
They actually wrote the software to detect if the emissions were being tested and only if they were to turn on the emissions control. It was no accident. (I know you already said it was intentional. I'm only pointing out that there is no doubt)Belly35;1752782 wrote:Understanding the j1939 protocol in relationship to the ecm unit any alteration is a planned and researched development project.
4cards
Posts: 2,551
Sep 24, 2015 7:29am
...looks like the Germany govt. was also aware of what VW was doing & turned a blind eye to it.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Sep 24, 2015 7:32am
My car isn't doing near the damage as corporations in China. This is what happens when you become too popular and people are buying you over GM hybrids and diesels.
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4cards
Posts: 2,551
Sep 24, 2015 8:41am
...agree!bases_loaded;1752801 wrote:My car isn't doing near the damage as corporations in China. This is what happens when you become too popular and people are buying you over GM hybrids and diesels.
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ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Sep 24, 2015 9:08am
Just hike up the import tax. I think this regulation is absurd anyway.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 24, 2015 9:52am
Why is it absurd?ernest_t_bass;1752826 wrote:Just hike up the import tax. I think this regulation is absurd anyway.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 24, 2015 9:57am
The CEO, Adolf Fraudmeyer resigned last night.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Sep 24, 2015 10:02am
b/c my opinion is that most of these regulations are overkill anyway.Commander of Awesome;1752836 wrote:Why is it absurd?
Edit: Why is it not a worldwide "regulation?"
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Sep 24, 2015 10:36am
Who would enforce it?ernest_t_bass;1752842 wrote: Why is it not a worldwide "regulation?"
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Sep 24, 2015 11:01am
FatHobbit;1752846 wrote:Who would enforce it?
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Sep 24, 2015 11:18am
When will heads roll at the EPA for the ACTUAL mass pollution of the river out west affecting multiple states and killing untold numbers of wildlife and habitat?
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Sep 24, 2015 11:26am
No, dude... cars.QuakerOats;1752856 wrote:When will heads roll at the EPA for the ACTUAL mass pollution of the river out west affecting multiple states and killing untold numbers of wildlife and habitat?
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 24, 2015 11:32am
C'mon...nothing really?Tiernan;1752838 wrote:The CEO, Adolf Fraudmeyer resigned last night.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Sep 24, 2015 11:38am
We're talking QQuaker. No matter the topic or issue, he will change it to something he feels like bitching about. And with over a year until the next big election, he's just going to get worse. At least until he gets the Tiernan Thread-Ban Special every time he goes off topic.ernest_t_bass;1752860 wrote:No, dude... cars.
Uz2Bon36
Posts: 1,135
Sep 24, 2015 11:44am
Shut up and go hug a tree.QuakerOats;1752856 wrote:When will heads roll at the EPA for the ACTUAL mass pollution of the river out west affecting multiple states and killing untold numbers of wildlife and habitat?
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 24, 2015 11:45am
^^^
Ahhh so you do admit there is a conspiracy?
Ahhh so you do admit there is a conspiracy?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Sep 24, 2015 11:56am
No one laughed because it wasn't funny. Dumbass.Tiernan;1752862 wrote:C'mon...nothing really?
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Sep 24, 2015 1:13pm
I know more about this topic and the development of J1939 .... and to think I'm the stupid one...FatHobbit;1752794 wrote:They actually wrote the software to detect if the emissions were being tested and only if they were to turn on the emissions control. It was no accident. (I know you already said it was intentional. I'm only pointing out that there is no doubt)
The software is only the minor issue but the development of a chip that alters the J1939 protocol chip signals/data within the ecm unit and the instrumentation is truly the evidence (work related) of a planned and intentional act.
This is where the EPA and Government around the world are clueless about what they do and or want in trying to protect the environment. Blame the obvious .. smoke come out of diesel engine and cars bad emission and mileage but India, China, Europe and even Canada spew out manufacturing smoke and particulates by the tons … but let America destroy there manufacturing, displace jobs and pressure a diesel and auto market into unrealistic standard.
I like to thank the VW company … Belly has a idea …
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 24, 2015 1:14pm
Yeah I sometimes forget my brand of humor requires a fairly sophisticated palate.DeyDurkie5;1752870 wrote:No one laughed because it wasn't funny. Dumbass.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Sep 24, 2015 2:03pm
Heretic;1752866 wrote:We're talking QQuaker. No matter the topic or issue, he will change it to something he feels like bitching about. And with over a year until the next big election, he's just going to get worse. At least until he gets the Tiernan Thread-Ban Special every time he goes off topic.
Not changing the topic; merely contrasting what occurs when bad things happen in the private sector as opposed to BIG government. In one instance, accountability comes in to play and people pay dearly for their mistakes and transgressions; conversely nothing happens to those on the Left in BIG government who do likewise.
Again, you cannot control your emotions towards a poster and it clouds rational debate on the topic.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Sep 24, 2015 11:28pm
This sounds pretty far fetched. C'mon, would the Germans ever try to kill someone with poison gas?
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 24, 2015 11:31pm
OK now THATs funny!superman;1752996 wrote:This sounds pretty far fetched. C'mon, would the Germans ever try to kill someone with poison gas?