Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jul 16, 2015 9:11pm
Rumors are he is going to Fox Sports 1. Either way what a terrible year the mothership is having, they lost Simmons who created two amazing outlets in Grantland and 30 for 30, SVP left his radio show, and now Cowherd leaves.
I don't think he is quite as good as Dan Patrick but still I like listening to the show and think he's probably the best mainstream guy on college football. Hopefully he does not leave radio for good
I don't think he is quite as good as Dan Patrick but still I like listening to the show and think he's probably the best mainstream guy on college football. Hopefully he does not leave radio for good
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jul 17, 2015 9:48am
He's a whiny dude. Can't stand his voice.
ESPN also lost Gregg Easterbrook and his TMQ column. I enjoyed it. ESPN actually chose not to renew.
ESPN also lost Gregg Easterbrook and his TMQ column. I enjoyed it. ESPN actually chose not to renew.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Jul 17, 2015 10:11am
Easterbrook was a bit repetitive over time with some of his off-topic stuff he did towards the ends of his articles. Overall I did enjoy his analysis of football though.OSH;1741274 wrote:He's a whiny dude. Can't stand his voice.
ESPN also lost Gregg Easterbrook and his TMQ column. I enjoyed it. ESPN actually chose not to renew.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jul 17, 2015 10:42am
I got to know Gregg Easterbrook after being a camp counselor for his son when I was in college. He could be a bit long winded but he always made good interesting points.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Jul 17, 2015 11:21am
Damn I hadn't heard about Easterbrook leaving that sucks. I'm not big into politics stuff but I always loved reading his TMQ column and definitely always loved how long and thoughtout his columns were.
As for Cowherd he is a love him or hate him type of guy. I will agree he didn't really have a radio type voice but it never bothered me. I always loved him and he is one of the few guys I still listen to on a daily basis.
It seems like all my favorite guys for football related stuff will be gone at ESPN by the time it starts up again this year. Simmons, Cowherd, Easterbrook, SVP (I know he still will be with ESPN but I don't stay up late and don't watch sportscenter). At least Mays and Barnwell will still be around.
As for Cowherd he is a love him or hate him type of guy. I will agree he didn't really have a radio type voice but it never bothered me. I always loved him and he is one of the few guys I still listen to on a daily basis.
It seems like all my favorite guys for football related stuff will be gone at ESPN by the time it starts up again this year. Simmons, Cowherd, Easterbrook, SVP (I know he still will be with ESPN but I don't stay up late and don't watch sportscenter). At least Mays and Barnwell will still be around.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 17, 2015 11:46am
The bottom line? ESPN's bread and butter is covering college football, the NBA, the NFL and college basketball. They mix in some baseball, combat sports, golf and tennis, but generally, those 4 sports get them through most of the year.
Given what some of these guys can probably command based on what their brands have built, and how other companies and networks would love to be able to associate themselves with the brand, they likely pay far more than ESPN would. Not because they can't, but why not? Look at why guys like Cowherd became what he did? He replaced someone else. Look at all of the Sportcenter anchors who have moved up and moved on? Many of them replaced by others who built the same brand.
In the end, ESPN creates most of these guys and right or wrong, they figure they can create more of them.
Given what some of these guys can probably command based on what their brands have built, and how other companies and networks would love to be able to associate themselves with the brand, they likely pay far more than ESPN would. Not because they can't, but why not? Look at why guys like Cowherd became what he did? He replaced someone else. Look at all of the Sportcenter anchors who have moved up and moved on? Many of them replaced by others who built the same brand.
In the end, ESPN creates most of these guys and right or wrong, they figure they can create more of them.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jul 17, 2015 12:51pm
Not only can, but should, a lesson apparantly not learned as shown by having a Berman at least 20 years past his being the least bit entertaining.Azubuike24;1741290 wrote: In the end, ESPN creates most of these guys and right or wrong, they figure they can create more of them.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 17, 2015 1:11pm
Berman was there from the beginning. Wouldn't be surprised if he had some type of dirt.queencitybuckeye;1741303 wrote:Not only can, but should, a lesson apparantly not learned as shown by having a Berman at least 20 years past his being the least bit entertaining.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 17, 2015 1:20pm
I guess I'm in the minority with Berman, I like him and his delivery. Adds color, humor, and fun without being a douchebag character (skip).like_that;1741312 wrote:Berman was there from the beginning. Wouldn't be surprised if he had some type of dirt.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jul 17, 2015 1:22pm
There were articles last week that Disney is demanding $350 million in cost cuts from ESPN over the next 2 years.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jul 17, 2015 1:28pm
I used to like him a good number of years ago, but he just seemed to get stale as far as material goes. Overall, I can get into him at times (NFL studio shows, in particular), but I hate whenever he does live commentary (home run derby, the late MNF game the first week of the season), as he just seems to be a complete idiot then.Commander of Awesome;1741317 wrote:I guess I'm in the minority with Berman, I like him and his delivery. Adds color, humor, and fun without being a douchebag character (skip).
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 17, 2015 1:28pm
I don't mind him. I think he fits in well with the current NFL countdown group. Everything else though? Beyond his prime imo.Commander of Awesome;1741317 wrote:I guess I'm in the minority with Berman, I like him and his delivery. Adds color, humor, and fun without being a douchebag character (skip).
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jul 17, 2015 2:31pm
It hasn't been announced officially, Easterbrook sent me a tweet the other day about it. I hope TMQ exists in some capacity.Iliketurtles;1741289 wrote:Damn I hadn't heard about Easterbrook leaving that sucks. I'm not big into politics stuff but I always loved reading his TMQ column and definitely always loved how long and thoughtout his columns were.
I can understand how it's not for everyone (politics, rambling, randomness, etc.) but it's enjoyable most of the time for me.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Jul 17, 2015 3:35pm
Espn will have a huge format change soon.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 17, 2015 5:10pm
The cost cutting part could be true, and there's no easier way to do it than take guys who could command millions (Cowherd, Olberman) and replace them with some up and coming people who are ready for the big stage, and replace their lower level positions with 5-figure salaried anchors and writers.
I'll be more concerned when some of my favorite commentators are let go. Guys like Dan Shulman, Mike Breen, Dave O'Brien, etc. They affect the delivery of the bread and butter of the network, sports. Although, aren't most of these guys under independent or flexible contracts of some sort? Most of them also have their own individual teams they work for.
I'll be more concerned when some of my favorite commentators are let go. Guys like Dan Shulman, Mike Breen, Dave O'Brien, etc. They affect the delivery of the bread and butter of the network, sports. Although, aren't most of these guys under independent or flexible contracts of some sort? Most of them also have their own individual teams they work for.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jul 19, 2015 7:21pm
As far as ESPN goes, that's the only thing I'd care about. I DGAF about their talk shows or studio stuff, but if they lost their better game commentators, I'd be pissed.Azubuike24;1741357 wrote:I'll be more concerned when some of my favorite commentators are let go. Guys like Dan Shulman, Mike Breen, Dave O'Brien, etc. They affect the delivery of the bread and butter of the network, sports. Although, aren't most of these guys under independent or flexible contracts of some sort? Most of them also have their own individual teams they work for.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Jul 25, 2015 11:48am
Well looks like Colin gets to leave ESPN a little earlier than planned. Anyone catch his show from Thursday or Friday? They've removing everything regarding The Herd from the ESPN website and I don't feel like going and looking for the audio. Was it really as bad the PC police are making it out to be?
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/13314040/colin-cowherd-no-longer-espn-air-comments-dominican-republic-players
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/13314040/colin-cowherd-no-longer-espn-air-comments-dominican-republic-players
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jul 25, 2015 2:04pm
He was talking about stuff that led into how Miami moved their GM into the manager slot and essentially said that baseball couldn't be that hard of a sport to learn/understand because of how many Dominicans played it because their education system is shoddy, therefore they aren't smart.Iliketurtles;1742510 wrote:Well looks like Colin gets to leave ESPN a little earlier than planned. Anyone catch his show from Thursday or Friday? They've removing everything regarding The Herd from the ESPN website and I don't feel like going and looking for the audio. Was it really as bad the PC police are making it out to be?
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/13314040/colin-cowherd-no-longer-espn-air-comments-dominican-republic-players
In other words, Sleeper's gotten so good at HOT TAEKS that he's inspiring national guys to up their game.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 25, 2015 3:21pm
PC police took this one.Iliketurtles;1742510 wrote:Well looks like Colin gets to leave ESPN a little earlier than planned. Anyone catch his show from Thursday or Friday? They've removing everything regarding The Herd from the ESPN website and I don't feel like going and looking for the audio. Was it really as bad the PC police are making it out to be?
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/13314040/colin-cowherd-no-longer-espn-air-comments-dominican-republic-players
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jul 25, 2015 8:24pm
ESPN radio sucks regardless.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jul 25, 2015 11:53pm
The guys doing the midnight sports center are worth watching these days kinda remind me of Patrick and Olbermann back in the day
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 25, 2015 11:58pm
They are pretty good....but the topics of SC suck. I typically just watch MLB Network every night. It's baseball season and I dgaf about Rex Ryan.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jul 26, 2015 8:27pm
This.friendfromlowry;1742556 wrote:ESPN radio sucks regardless.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jul 26, 2015 10:14pm
Cowherd should lose his spot with FOX after those comments. Pretty bad.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jul 27, 2015 12:08pm
I have no issue with his comments.