
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Jan 4, 2010 11:00am
SEC-5 (Florida x2, LSU x2, Tennessee)
Big 12-2 (Oklahoma, Texas)
ACC-1 (Florida State)
Big East-1 (Miami)
Big Ten-1 (Ohio State)
PAC-10-1 (USC)
We know that it will either be the Big 12 getting their 3rd BCS title or the SEC getting their 6th.
Big 12-2 (Oklahoma, Texas)
ACC-1 (Florida State)
Big East-1 (Miami)
Big Ten-1 (Ohio State)
PAC-10-1 (USC)
We know that it will either be the Big 12 getting their 3rd BCS title or the SEC getting their 6th.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 4, 2010 11:28am
The Big East's champion is now in the ACC. The Big East needs to add some more talent to the conference. I don't think it is as bad as people make it out to be though. This could cause problems, as the Big East basketball conference is already huge but as it stands now you could really make the argument that the MWC is better.
As the Big East stands now, they have a school in Florida. So you really can't make the distance argument. Houston, SMU (you're banking they'll be back), ECU, or they could get real crazy and add some of the mid-majors from the MWC could help improve the conference's rep.
The Big East has 8 teams now. They could add ECU, Boise, Utah, and BYU, and then have a conference championship (might have to change the conference name). But this would save the conference IMO. It won't happen though. Just something I just thought of.
As the Big East stands now, they have a school in Florida. So you really can't make the distance argument. Houston, SMU (you're banking they'll be back), ECU, or they could get real crazy and add some of the mid-majors from the MWC could help improve the conference's rep.
The Big East has 8 teams now. They could add ECU, Boise, Utah, and BYU, and then have a conference championship (might have to change the conference name). But this would save the conference IMO. It won't happen though. Just something I just thought of.

darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jan 4, 2010 11:45am
ECU might make sense; a Mountain West team joining the Big East makes no sense financially or geographicaly

Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Jan 4, 2010 11:55am
There has been lot of talk about a split in the Big East between the all sports schools and the other schools. I suspect the split will not occur until the new teams are added.
There has been a lot of discussion about Memphis joining the Big East. They hired former Big East commisioner Mike Tranghese as a consultant for this purpose. They have a fertile recruiting area, huge sponsors (FedEx), a bowl game (The Liberty Bowl) and a solid basketball team. In addition, there is already a built in rivalry with UL and UC.
I would not mind Memphis but I really don't want to see the Big East turn into C-USA North with additions of them, ECU, UCF, etc. Unfortunately, teams already in another BCS conference will not be leaving their conference to join the Big East. I really see no other options for them.
There has been a lot of discussion about Memphis joining the Big East. They hired former Big East commisioner Mike Tranghese as a consultant for this purpose. They have a fertile recruiting area, huge sponsors (FedEx), a bowl game (The Liberty Bowl) and a solid basketball team. In addition, there is already a built in rivalry with UL and UC.
I would not mind Memphis but I really don't want to see the Big East turn into C-USA North with additions of them, ECU, UCF, etc. Unfortunately, teams already in another BCS conference will not be leaving their conference to join the Big East. I really see no other options for them.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 4, 2010 11:55am
Yeah that's what I said geographically. But heck, neither does USF. Everybody else is confined to the midwest/east area.darbypitcher22 wrote: ECU might make sense; a Mountain West team joining the Big East makes no sense financially or geographicaly
I don't know I kind of liked my idea
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eersandbeers
Posts: 1,071
Jan 4, 2010 11:57am
The Big East will likely not exist after the Big10 gets done creating their 14 team conference.
I like Memphis, but it will only reinforce the idea of a mid-major conference.
Like I posted in another thread, the BE will likely lose Syracuse or Pitt to the Big10, and then WVU and a couple others might bolt to the ACC.
The only thing that could save the BE is adding a team like ND. Nothing short of adding another power will be good.
I like Memphis, but it will only reinforce the idea of a mid-major conference.
Like I posted in another thread, the BE will likely lose Syracuse or Pitt to the Big10, and then WVU and a couple others might bolt to the ACC.
The only thing that could save the BE is adding a team like ND. Nothing short of adding another power will be good.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2010 12:17pm
Big 10 will only go to 12 and they will take Missouri, don't worry, your conference won't fall apart for that reason.eersandbeers wrote: The Big East will likely not exist after the Big10 gets done creating their 14 team conference.
I like Memphis, but it will only reinforce the idea of a mid-major conference.
Like I posted in another thread, the BE will likely lose Syracuse or Pitt to the Big10, and then WVU and a couple others might bolt to the ACC.
The only thing that could save the BE is adding a team like ND. Nothing short of adding another power will be good.
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King Curtis
Posts: 391
Jan 4, 2010 12:21pm
When did Tennessee win a BCS title?

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2010 12:23pm
The first ever BCS NC game, the 1998 season, 1999 NC game.King Curtis wrote: When did Tennessee win a BCS title?
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eersandbeers
Posts: 1,071
Jan 4, 2010 12:28pm
LJ wrote:Big 10 will only go to 12 and they will take Missouri, don't worry, your conference won't fall apart for that reason.eersandbeers wrote: The Big East will likely not exist after the Big10 gets done creating their 14 team conference.
I like Memphis, but it will only reinforce the idea of a mid-major conference.
Like I posted in another thread, the BE will likely lose Syracuse or Pitt to the Big10, and then WVU and a couple others might bolt to the ACC.
The only thing that could save the BE is adding a team like ND. Nothing short of adding another power will be good.
Multiple Big Ten sources told the Tribune Wednesday that 14 teams, even 16, could be in play as it relates to the Big Ten's potential expansion. "Anything is possible," one source said, beyond the conventional wisdom of simply adding a 12th school.
A conference statement spoke of an "evaluation of options for conference structure and expansion."
One option the Big Ten will not pursue is an odd number of schools -- again.
But don't be shocked if the conference of Bo and Woody adds three plates -- or more -- to the table.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-17-big-ten-brite-dec17,0,3820862.story

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2010 12:29pm
Just like most of your sports arguments, what does that prove? I said they will only go to 12, you think they will go to 14, that article says anything is a possibility. Your opinion is worth no more than mine.eersandbeers wrote:LJ wrote:Big 10 will only go to 12 and they will take Missouri, don't worry, your conference won't fall apart for that reason.eersandbeers wrote: The Big East will likely not exist after the Big10 gets done creating their 14 team conference.
I like Memphis, but it will only reinforce the idea of a mid-major conference.
Like I posted in another thread, the BE will likely lose Syracuse or Pitt to the Big10, and then WVU and a couple others might bolt to the ACC.
The only thing that could save the BE is adding a team like ND. Nothing short of adding another power will be good.
Multiple Big Ten sources told the Tribune Wednesday that 14 teams, even 16, could be in play as it relates to the Big Ten's potential expansion. "Anything is possible," one source said, beyond the conventional wisdom of simply adding a 12th school.
A conference statement spoke of an "evaluation of options for conference structure and expansion."
One option the Big Ten will not pursue is an odd number of schools -- again.
But don't be shocked if the conference of Bo and Woody adds three plates -- or more -- to the table.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-17-big-ten-brite-dec17,0,3820862.story
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eersandbeers
Posts: 1,071
Jan 4, 2010 12:34pm
LJ wrote:Just like most of your sports arguments, what does that prove? I said they will only go to 12, you think they will go to 14, that article says anything is a possibility. Your opinion is worth no more than mine.eersandbeers wrote:LJ wrote:Big 10 will only go to 12 and they will take Missouri, don't worry, your conference won't fall apart for that reason.eersandbeers wrote: The Big East will likely not exist after the Big10 gets done creating their 14 team conference.
I like Memphis, but it will only reinforce the idea of a mid-major conference.
Like I posted in another thread, the BE will likely lose Syracuse or Pitt to the Big10, and then WVU and a couple others might bolt to the ACC.
The only thing that could save the BE is adding a team like ND. Nothing short of adding another power will be good.
Multiple Big Ten sources told the Tribune Wednesday that 14 teams, even 16, could be in play as it relates to the Big Ten's potential expansion. "Anything is possible," one source said, beyond the conventional wisdom of simply adding a 12th school.
A conference statement spoke of an "evaluation of options for conference structure and expansion."
One option the Big Ten will not pursue is an odd number of schools -- again.
But don't be shocked if the conference of Bo and Woody adds three plates -- or more -- to the table.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-17-big-ten-brite-dec17,0,3820862.story
Where did I say your opinion was worth less? I'm saying its a distinct possibility, when you said they will only take 12. Your opinion is worth no more than mine.
I believe superconferences will be the future as we've saw how it worked for the BE in basketball. The ACC is also talking about expanding to 14 teams regardless.
If the Big10 takes Pitt, I think WVU tries at all costs to go to the ACC. The BE will be a certifiable mid-major with only WVU left. I know UC has had a couple good years, but they need to win some big time games first.

Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Jan 4, 2010 12:39pm
I agree with you regarding not wanting the C-USA/MWC teams. Those teams doe not help the Big East cause. Unfortunately, barring a miracle, ND is not coming and neither are BC, MD, Navy, or Penn State (the favorites on the Big East Boards out there and teams would give the BE street cred).eersandbeers wrote: The Big East will likely not exist after the Big10 gets done creating their 14 team conference.
I like Memphis, but it will only reinforce the idea of a mid-major conference.
Like I posted in another thread, the BE will likely lose Syracuse or Pitt to the Big10, and then WVU and a couple others might bolt to the ACC.
The only thing that could save the BE is adding a team like ND. Nothing short of adding another power will be good.
I actually agree Super Conferences are in the future. This will be a step towards getting us to an eventual playoff.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2010 12:41pm
I think the Big Ten raids the Big 12 in a 14 team situation. Missouri, Nebraska and Iowa State.eersandbeers wrote:LJ wrote:Just like most of your sports arguments, what does that prove? I said they will only go to 12, you think they will go to 14, that article says anything is a possibility. Your opinion is worth no more than mine.eersandbeers wrote:LJ wrote:Big 10 will only go to 12 and they will take Missouri, don't worry, your conference won't fall apart for that reason.eersandbeers wrote: The Big East will likely not exist after the Big10 gets done creating their 14 team conference.
I like Memphis, but it will only reinforce the idea of a mid-major conference.
Like I posted in another thread, the BE will likely lose Syracuse or Pitt to the Big10, and then WVU and a couple others might bolt to the ACC.
The only thing that could save the BE is adding a team like ND. Nothing short of adding another power will be good.
Multiple Big Ten sources told the Tribune Wednesday that 14 teams, even 16, could be in play as it relates to the Big Ten's potential expansion. "Anything is possible," one source said, beyond the conventional wisdom of simply adding a 12th school.
A conference statement spoke of an "evaluation of options for conference structure and expansion."
One option the Big Ten will not pursue is an odd number of schools -- again.
But don't be shocked if the conference of Bo and Woody adds three plates -- or more -- to the table.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-17-big-ten-brite-dec17,0,3820862.story
Where did I say your opinion was worth less? I'm saying its a distinct possibility, when you said they will only take 12. Your opinion is worth no more than mine.
I believe superconferences will be the future as we've saw how it worked for the BE in basketball. The ACC is also talking about expanding to 14 teams regardless.
If the Big10 takes Pitt, I think WVU tries at all costs to go to the ACC. The BE will be a certifiable mid-major with only WVU left. I know UC has had a couple good years, but they need to win some big time games first.
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eersandbeers
Posts: 1,071
Jan 4, 2010 12:51pm
I think certain MWC teams would actually be a step up from ECU or Memphis. Although, I guess UConn, USF, and UC were all mid-majors when they joined the conference but quickly became decent programs.Little Danny wrote:
I agree with you regarding not wanting the C-USA/MWC teams. Those teams doe not help the Big East cause. Unfortunately, barring a miracle, ND is not coming and neither are BC, MD, Navy, or Penn State (the favorites on the Big East Boards out there and teams would give the BE street cred).
I actually agree Super Conferences are in the future. This will be a step towards getting us to an eventual playoff.
PSU would make sense because they originally wanted to form the BE with WVU and Pitt in the first place. I don't think there is any chance they abandon the Big10 now though.
That would leave BC and MD as the best choices but MD is an awful program right now.
I guess it depends on which markets they want the most. I think they'd take the New York market in that situation.LJ wrote:
I think the Big Ten raids the Big 12 in a 14 team situation. Missouri, Nebraska and Iowa State.

NNN
Posts: 902
Jan 4, 2010 4:49pm
1998 with a pretty loaded team. Heck, consider the starting lineups.King Curtis wrote: When did Tennessee win a BCS title?
QB - Tee Martin
HB - Travis Henry (backed up by Travis Stephens, Jamal Lewis was injured)
FB - Shawn Bryson
WR - Peerless Price
WR - Jermaine Copeland (David Martin was backup, followed by Donte Stallworth)
T - Chad Clifton
T - Jarvis Reado (too injured for NFL career)
G - Mercedes Hamilton
G - Cosey Coleman
C - Spencer Riley
DE - Shaun Ellis
DE - Corey Terry (too small for NFL)
DT - Darwin Walker (backed up by future OG Fred Weary)
DT - Billy Ratliff (most injured guy I've ever seen; when healthy was dominant; John Henderson was backup)
OLB - Raynoch Thompson
OLB - Eric Westmoreland
MLB - Al Wilson
CB - Dwayne Goodrich
CB - Andre Lott
S - Deon Grant
S - Fred White
K - John Hall
P - David Leaverton
How this team didn't win more games either the year before (with Manning) or the year after (losing Wilson and Reado) is beyond me.