2015-2016 Cleveland Cavaliers World Champions!

Home ▸ Archive ▸ Pro Sports ▸ 2015-2016 Cleveland Cavaliers World Champions!
lhslep134's avatar

lhslep134

why so serious?

9,774 posts
Jun 25, 2015 5:35 PM
Midstate01;1737260 wrote:S&L said what I sorta remembered about him, which is why it was so weird earlier this season when I started hearing his name a lot when talking about next impact players to come over from Europe. Wonder if something has changed with him maybe? I doubt it.
Kaun rated as the 9th best player in all of the Euroleagues this year in PIR (Performance Index Rating) which is similar to NBA's Efficiency rating, I guess?

http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics?mode=Leaders&entity=Players&seasonmode=Single&seasoncode=E2014&cat=Valuation&agg=Accumulated

My guess is that he received a lot better big man coaching overseas than he did in college. Don't know where that leaves his value now, but I have to imagine it's higher than it was when he came out of college.

Also, this:
Commander of Awesome;1737242 wrote:He's still a center though, Bigs get paid and are always in demand.
Jun 25, 2015 5:35pm
SportsAndLady's avatar

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

35,632 posts
Jun 25, 2015 6:05 PM
lhslep134;1737271 wrote:Kaun rated as the 9th best player in all of the Euroleagues this year in PIR (Performance Index Rating) which is similar to NBA's Efficiency rating, I guess?

http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics?mode=Leaders&entity=Players&seasonmode=Single&seasoncode=E2014&cat=Valuation&agg=Accumulated

My guess is that he received a lot better big man coaching overseas than he did in college. Don't know where that leaves his value now, but I have to imagine it's higher than it was when he came out of college.

Also, this:
Doesn't get much better than Danny manning haha
Jun 25, 2015 6:05pm
lhslep134's avatar

lhslep134

why so serious?

9,774 posts
Jun 25, 2015 6:09 PM
SportsAndLady;1737278 wrote:Doesn't get much better than Danny manning haha
I should have rephrased. I meant to say more focused coaching overseas. College big men aren't afforded the same developmental energy as professional teams, especially a powerhouse like CSKA
Jun 25, 2015 6:09pm
like_that's avatar

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

26,625 posts
Jun 25, 2015 6:45 PM
It's crazy the draft is tonight. It was nice for once not to think about the draft halfway thru the season.
Jun 25, 2015 6:45pm
Lovejoy1984's avatar

Lovejoy1984

Senior Member

5,277 posts
Jun 25, 2015 6:45 PM
lhslep134;1737280 wrote:I should have rephrased. I meant to say more focused coaching overseas. College big men aren't afforded the same developmental energy as professional teams, especially a powerhouse like CSKA
True, and at the same time, Big men almost always take longer to be ready.
Jun 25, 2015 6:45pm
lhslep134's avatar

lhslep134

why so serious?

9,774 posts
Jun 25, 2015 7:13 PM
like_that;1737284 wrote:It's crazy the draft is tonight. It was nice for once not to think about the draft halfway thru the season.
I was thinking the same thing a couple hours ago.
Jun 25, 2015 7:13pm
lhslep134's avatar

lhslep134

why so serious?

9,774 posts
Jun 25, 2015 7:14 PM
HighRoller74;1737285 wrote:True, and at the same time, Big men almost always take longer to be ready.
At the same time...where the hell did this Kaun development come from? Not the development of him as a player, the development of him as an asset that other teams want. I hadn't heard anything until it came out a couple days ago. It sounds like he's basically a free asset for us, so no complaints.
Jun 25, 2015 7:14pm
Lovejoy1984's avatar

Lovejoy1984

Senior Member

5,277 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:13 PM
Cavs finally on the clock.

Hazell, Tyus Jones, RJ Hunter still on the clock. Or they could stash a foreign guy.
Jun 25, 2015 10:13pm
wildcats20's avatar

wildcats20

In ROY I Trust!!

27,794 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:20 PM
Draft Tyus and then send him to Minny for 31 and 36.
Jun 25, 2015 10:20pm
Terry_Tate's avatar

Terry_Tate

Senior Member

7,606 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:20 PM
HighRoller74;1737343 wrote:Cavs finally on the clock.

Hazell, Tyus Jones, RJ Hunter still on the clock. Or they could stash a foreign guy.
Seems like Tyus Jones would be a great pick.
Jun 25, 2015 10:20pm
Laley23's avatar

Laley23

GOAT

29,506 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:21 PM
Tyus would be great for Cavs IMO.
Jun 25, 2015 10:21pm
GOONx19's avatar

GOONx19

An exceptional poster.

7,147 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:23 PM
Makes us better. No complaints.
Jun 25, 2015 10:23pm
Lovejoy1984's avatar

Lovejoy1984

Senior Member

5,277 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:23 PM
Tyus was the pick, but trading him to Minny for 31-36.
Jun 25, 2015 10:23pm
Ytowngirlinfla's avatar

Ytowngirlinfla

I wear real chevrons!

2,295 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:23 PM
Traded to Minnesota
Jun 25, 2015 10:23pm
S

superman

Senior Member

3,582 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:25 PM
Windhorst saying traded to Minny. So it might happen.
Jun 25, 2015 10:25pm
GOONx19's avatar

GOONx19

An exceptional poster.

7,147 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:28 PM
wildcats20;1737344 wrote:Draft Tyus and then send him to Minny for 31 and 36.
Good call.
Jun 25, 2015 10:28pm
se-alum's avatar

se-alum

The Biggest Boss

13,948 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:28 PM
What's the point in getting the 31st & 36th picks?
Jun 25, 2015 10:28pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ's avatar

ZWICK 4 PREZ

Senior Member

7,733 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:29 PM
se-alum;1737352 wrote:What's the point in getting the 31st & 36th picks?
Save salary? Bout the only thing I can think of.
Jun 25, 2015 10:29pm
robj55's avatar

robj55

Senior Member

9,511 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:31 PM
Non guaranteed contracts right?
Jun 25, 2015 10:31pm
wildcats20's avatar

wildcats20

In ROY I Trust!!

27,794 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:31 PM
GOONx19;1737351 wrote:Good call.
I'm only following along on Twitter. So Woj had it long before it was announced.
Jun 25, 2015 10:31pm
se-alum's avatar

se-alum

The Biggest Boss

13,948 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:35 PM
robj55;1737355 wrote:Non guaranteed contracts right?
#31 would still be a guaranteed contract.
Jun 25, 2015 10:35pm
Ytowngirlinfla's avatar

Ytowngirlinfla

I wear real chevrons!

2,295 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:35 PM
robj55;1737355 wrote:Non guaranteed contracts right?
NVM.

Just checked but doesn't count against the cap?
Jun 25, 2015 10:35pm
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:36 PM
se-alum;1737352 wrote:What's the point in getting the 31st & 36th picks?
1st round picks are guaranteed a contract. Nothing is guaranteed for 2nd round picks.
Jun 25, 2015 10:36pm
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:37 PM
se-alum;1737358 wrote:#31 would still be a guaranteed contract.
No.
Jun 25, 2015 10:37pm
Lovejoy1984's avatar

Lovejoy1984

Senior Member

5,277 posts
Jun 25, 2015 10:40 PM
Wouldn't be surprised to see the Cavs make a couple more trades tonight.
Jun 25, 2015 10:40pm