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2015-2016 Cleveland Cavaliers World Champions!

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Jul 27, 2015 1:35 AM
Yeah looks like was Millers call. He want's to go somewhere and actually play.
Jul 26, 2015 9:35pm
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Jul 27, 2015 1:42 AM
What are we going to do with that trade exception and does that come towards the trade deadline?
Jul 26, 2015 9:42pm
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Jul 27, 2015 2:04 AM
Yeah I assume we well hold off on it until then, unless something comes up. I assume what we can/will see happen is some team, such as the T'Wolves who've got some high priced players (Kevin Martin, Pekovic) decide to just cut bait mid way through the season to tank further, they essentially did that this season when they gave away Brewer for almost nothing.

May not land a glamour name, but could see us land a couple solid mid-end of the bench guys.
Jul 26, 2015 10:04pm
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Jul 27, 2015 2:09 AM
Can you split the trade exception up and combine it with players? I still think the Cavs should see what they have with Varejao and if somehow he comes back effective, try to dump him.
Jul 26, 2015 10:09pm
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Jul 27, 2015 2:15 AM
Azubuike24;1742694 wrote:Can you split the trade exception up and combine it with players? I still think the Cavs should see what they have with Varejao and if somehow he comes back effective, try to dump him.
I don't see that happening. If Andy came back as effective, why would they move him? Also, I don't see LeBron being on board with them dumping Andy.
Jul 26, 2015 10:15pm
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Jul 27, 2015 2:18 AM
That's the key part, LeBron.

You just gave Thompson a massive contract and Mozgov is a pending free agent and does everything Andy does, but better and younger.

If you could find a taker for Andy, you could possibly get another expiring contract to flip or combine it with the trade exception and land someone else.

Can you really see Thompson, Mozgov and Varejao with enough minutes to go around? Forget where Love even fits in there.
Jul 26, 2015 10:18pm
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Jul 27, 2015 2:19 AM
Al Bundy;1742696 wrote:I don't see that happening. If Andy came back as effective, why would they move him? Also, I don't see LeBron being on board with them dumping Andy.
That's a pretty big If these days.
Jul 26, 2015 10:19pm
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Jul 27, 2015 2:21 AM
Well, obviously if he's unable to be anything useful, nobody would consider taking his remaining contract years. So, you would hope he plays well, you get some decent production from him, then find a team who needs a "well-rounded" big for the playoffs.

There's no doubt moving him regardless would make sense. The bigger question is...can you?
Jul 26, 2015 10:21pm
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Jul 27, 2015 2:38 AM
Azubuike24;1742694 wrote:Can you split the trade exception up and combine it with players? I still think the Cavs should see what they have with Varejao and if somehow he comes back effective, try to dump him.
You can break it up, however cannot attach another player with it. The player you bring in, only absorbs the amount of money on his contract. The remaining left over balance could be used to claim a player off of waivers and/or trade for another guy.
Jul 26, 2015 10:38pm
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Jul 27, 2015 7:04 PM
Delly signed his qualifying offer today.
Jul 27, 2015 3:04pm
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Jul 27, 2015 7:19 PM
sleeper;1742808 wrote:Delly signed his qualifying offer today.
Much better than the initial rumors we were hearing about $3-$5M a year. I can stomach the $1.2M he got
Jul 27, 2015 3:19pm
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Jul 27, 2015 7:34 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1742811 wrote:Much better than the initial rumors we were hearing about $3-$5M a year. I can stomach the $1.2M he got
I think he's worth between $2-3M a year. I think he can get better and be a solid piece off the bench so if he wants $5M he's going to have to develop a consistent jump shot because he's too small to really be a threat to the lane.
Jul 27, 2015 3:34pm
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Jul 28, 2015 11:20 PM
Been reading through some summer league stuff, wonder what it would take to pry TJ Warren from the Suns.
Jul 28, 2015 7:20pm
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Jul 28, 2015 11:29 PM
Commander of Awesome;1742988 wrote:Been reading through some summer league stuff, wonder what it would take to pry TJ Warren from the Suns.
LOL @ putting any sort of stock into summer league results
Jul 28, 2015 7:29pm
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Jul 28, 2015 11:31 PM
lhslep134;1742991 wrote:LOL @ putting any sort of stock into summer league results
Nah it was this article:

http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/238890/Finding-Minutes-For-The-Unorthodox-Game-Of-TJ-Warren

Scoring from the SF position while LBJ is on the bench with shooters (Cavs have) plus young seems like a nice thing to bring in and see if it works.
Jul 28, 2015 7:31pm
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Jul 28, 2015 11:52 PM
I deleted my post because while the summer league is mostly irrelevant, I agree that TJ is a player of interest. Loved his game at NC State. Smooth, if unconventional, scorer.
Jul 28, 2015 7:52pm
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Jul 31, 2015 4:37 PM
No.

Aaron Afflo - We already have KI, Mogotti, JR Smith (I'm assuming he comes back), Iman Shumpert, and Delly. I dont see min for him and he's not an upgrade.

Asik - Defensive Center is prob the most intriguing, but we have Mozgoz, TT, Love, Andy (for 27 games). He's a bad FT shooter, adaquate but not great rebounder, etc.. Again don't see a big upgrade but like pitching can never have enough bigs.

OJ Mayo - see Aaron Afflo except he's a chucker and plays as much defense as Carmelo.

Frye - LOL, a "big" that only thing he is above avg at for his position is shooting the 3. He hasn't played well in several seasons, but if he got his head out of his ass he could be a nice versatility piece for us. I'd like to think we could get better value than a lotto ticket for that big of a trade exception.

Kevin Martin - Eh, he provides another scoring option and not much else.

I'd rather get a back up SF, one that can actually play. Not a bunch of retreads hanging on because they didn't suck ass 5 seasons ago.
Jul 31, 2015 12:37pm
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Jul 31, 2015 4:51 PM
Doing a little more reading/research I understand what that author is getting at, but I just find the roles redundant. Looking more into Martin, he can score. Didn't realize he scored 20 pts a game, hitting almost 40% from 3. I would take that consider NO ONE could hit last post season in the finals.

Frye also hit close to 40% from 3, and the Cavs have to be top 3 in taking 3 pt shots. He's had back issues, and a down yr in Orlando last season. I can see the attraction, but I think he's basically a lotto ticket.

I also read Barngani (lol), and Granger (which I think is interesting). Maybe I should set my sights lower, but I was hoping for a little more a guy like Frye/Martin.
Jul 31, 2015 12:51pm
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Jul 31, 2015 7:16 PM
Commander of Awesome;1743575 wrote:
I'd rather get a back up SF, one that can actually play. Not a bunch of retreads hanging on because they didn't suck ass 5 seasons ago.
Commander of Awesome;1743578 wrote:
I also read Barngani (lol), and Granger (which I think is interesting). Maybe I should set my sights lower, but I was hoping for a little more a guy like Frye/Martin.
This just made me laugh.
Jul 31, 2015 3:16pm
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Jul 31, 2015 7:18 PM
Laley23;1743600 wrote:This just made me laugh.
Not a granger fan huh? Might be right, watched very little of him last season.
Jul 31, 2015 3:18pm
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Jul 31, 2015 7:22 PM
Commander of Awesome;1743601 wrote:Not a granger fan huh? Might be right, watched very little of him last season.
Not so much that, more the fact he hasnt averaged double figures in 4 seasons, he is more fragile than Andy and has lost his shooting touch from early days in Indiana.
Jul 31, 2015 3:22pm
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Jul 31, 2015 7:41 PM
Laley23;1743602 wrote:Not so much that, more the fact he hasnt averaged double figures in 4 seasons, he is more fragile than Andy and has lost his shooting touch from early days in Indiana.
Great points, you've convinced me to stop living in the past with Granger.

[video=youtube;5OXPlAjeJwQ][/video]

He's no longer interesting, I take my interest comment back.
Jul 31, 2015 3:41pm
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Jul 31, 2015 10:35 PM
Commander of Awesome;1743601 wrote:Not a granger fan huh? Might be right, watched very little of him last season.
You acting like you know something about someone you have no idea on? I'm shocked.
Jul 31, 2015 6:35pm
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Jul 31, 2015 11:02 PM
DeyDurkie5;1743651 wrote:You acting like you know something about someone you have no idea on? I'm shocked.
I did? How so?

Also you're the most up tight stoner I've ever seen. Chill the out "bro".
Jul 31, 2015 7:02pm