I didn't think it was possible....

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Elliot Stabler
Posts: 388
Jan 3, 2010 10:54pm
for a political party to hate a political figure as much as Republicans hate President Obama

When George W.Bush took office in 2001,a majority of the American public were willing to give him a chance

But....

The Republican party has never given President Obama a chance since he took office.

It's kind of disgusting

Every decision he makes youall say is going to end the country.

Hell if he did everything single thing you guys wanted...you would still bitch and moan

Makes me wonder
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ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jan 3, 2010 11:25pm
The same was said by the crazy left when Bush took office. To some on the left he was never given a chance as he was viewed as stealing the election. It just grew from there.

What goes around comes around.
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Elliot Stabler
Posts: 388
Jan 3, 2010 11:27pm
I'm talking about right from the very very start p-town

The majority of the American Public(including liberals) were willing to give Bush a chance. The hatered came later

Republicans have never given President Obama a chance
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Jan 3, 2010 11:56pm
Come on, you can't be serious?

The left HATED Bush, said he stole the election from Gore, and gave him zero chance just like the far right is with Obama.

You are drinking too much Kool Aid if you think the left treated Bush any better than the right is treating Obama.
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Elliot Stabler
Posts: 388
Jan 4, 2010 12:00am
What ever you say my friend

What ever you say
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Jan 4, 2010 12:03am
The left HATED Bush, said he stole the election from Gore, and gave him zero chance just like the far right is with Obama.
How soon they forget!!!
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Jan 4, 2010 12:06am
Elliot Stabler wrote: What ever you say my friend

What ever you say
You have to be pretty young, as in couldn't vote in the 1st GW Bush election, because there is no way you can sit here and say the libs gave Bush a chance.

They freaking sued over the election and for four years all I saw were bumper stickers talking about a "stolen election" and the fact that no one ever removed their "Gore 2000" stickers.

Its all we heard was how "stupid" Bush was, etc.

You are in a dream world if you are trying to say the libs gave GWB a chance.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 4, 2010 1:47am
Well to be honest. The left had a reason to dislike Bush, he wasn't the dude that most people in the country voted for (I'm aware that we don't do a straight democratic vote). There is no reason for the immediate animosity towards Obama as he won the election by a fairly wide margin. Yet tales of doom and gloom were there from day one.

Although the loosing party never gives the other a chance, so it isn't a surprise. The left was fond of making chimp jokes at Bush's expense.
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slide22
Posts: 330
Jan 4, 2010 2:08am
I Wear Pants wrote: Well to be honest. The left had a reason to dislike Bush, he wasn't the dude that most people in the country voted for (I'm aware that we don't do a straight democratic vote). There is no reason for the immediate animosity towards Obama as he won the election by a fairly wide margin. Yet tales of doom and gloom were there from day one.

Although the loosing party never gives the other a chance, so it isn't a surprise. The left was fond of making chimp jokes at Bush's expense.
He didn't win the popular vote in 00', but that was probably for the good. (Al Gore being a moron.) And he won the popular vote by 3 million votes in 04... so I don't understand where you get that most people in the country didn't vote for him.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 4, 2010 2:10am
I was talking about in 2000. In 2004 he won the election by a ton because he ran a great campaign and was against a horse instead of a candidate.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Jan 4, 2010 2:39am
I Wear Pants wrote: Well to be honest. The left had a reason to dislike Bush, he wasn't the dude that most people in the country voted for (I'm aware that we don't do a straight democratic vote). There is no reason for the immediate animosity towards Obama as he won the election by a fairly wide margin. Yet tales of doom and gloom were there from day one.

Although the loosing party never gives the other a chance, so it isn't a surprise. The left was fond of making chimp jokes at Bush's expense.
Come on, you can't say that Obama has been who people thought they were voting for either...
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tk421
Posts: 8,500
Jan 4, 2010 2:52am
jmog wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote: Well to be honest. The left had a reason to dislike Bush, he wasn't the dude that most people in the country voted for (I'm aware that we don't do a straight democratic vote). There is no reason for the immediate animosity towards Obama as he won the election by a fairly wide margin. Yet tales of doom and gloom were there from day one.

Although the loosing party never gives the other a chance, so it isn't a surprise. The left was fond of making chimp jokes at Bush's expense.
Come on, you can't say that Obama has been who people thought they were voting for either...
A liar, just like every other single politician on this planet?
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Jan 4, 2010 2:59am
Dude, c'mon...the left spewed ridiculous venom towards Bush. He was given a little bit of a reprieve because of 9/11 but it didn't last long. Personally, I never thought it could get worse than the anger the left had towards Bush...but I have to say, it seems like the right hates Obama more as of right now. But, I mean, Obama is those on the right's worst nightmare...a charismatic, no-nonsense liberal who said on camera he wants to "spread the wealth around," hung out with marxists in College, was close to not being born in America, is of mixed race, has a "muslim name,"and has a wife who we all get the feeling wants to shove her fist in the air and yell "black power." Limbaugh would take back slick willy any day of the week.

But, to be fair, it's hard for me to remember back that far anymore and I most watched Fox during the Bush Presidency and Alan Colmes was a wussy.

In response to JMOG, I think Obama has been pretty much who I thought he was, except I've been surprised by his pragmatism and feel as if he's been more centrist than i thought he was (For instance, not demanding a public option and his passionate defense of the concept of a just war in Oslo)...I realize that sounds crazy to a conservative...To me, I feel like liberals have to feel a little taken aback by him...but that's JMO.
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believer
Posts: 8,153
Jan 4, 2010 3:48am
Elliot Stabler wrote: I'm talking about right from the very very start p-town

The majority of the American Public(including liberals) were willing to give Bush a chance. The hatered came later

Republicans have never given President Obama a chance
Are you insane?

The left and the mainstream media HATED Bush from the start.

You obviously forget the specter of several weeks of bogus recount after recount. You forget the media declaring Gore the winner and then watching some of them actually shed tears when the U.S. Supreme Court smacked down the Florida Supreme Court allowing the Florida Secretary of State to finally certify that Bush had carried the state giving Bush the WH.

The ONLY time the left backed Bush for a very brief period of time was immediately after 9/11.

Bush Bashing by the left was in FULL THROTTLE from day one.

Your selective memory is what makes me wonder.
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fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jan 4, 2010 7:07am
Elliot Stabler wrote: for a political party to hate a political figure as much as Republicans hate President Obama

When George W.Bush took office in 2001,a majority of the American public were willing to give him a chance

But....

The Republican party has never given President Obama a chance since he took office.

It's kind of disgusting

Every decision he makes youall say is going to end the country.

Hell if he did everything single thing you guys wanted...you would still bitch and moan

Makes me wonder
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eersandbeers
Posts: 1,071
Jan 4, 2010 7:36am
Elliot Stabler wrote: for a political party to hate a political figure as much as Republicans hate President Obama

When George W.Bush took office in 2001,a majority of the American public were willing to give him a chance

But....

The Republican party has never given President Obama a chance since he took office.

It's kind of disgusting

Every decision he makes youall say is going to end the country.

Hell if he did everything single thing you guys wanted...you would still bitch and moan

Makes me wonder
Bush was given a chance because of 9/11. Look at his approval ratings pre-9/11 and they are similar to Obama's.

Just the divided partisan hack country we live in.
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Elliot Stabler
Posts: 388
Jan 4, 2010 1:01pm
believer wrote:
Elliot Stabler wrote: I'm talking about right from the very very start p-town

The majority of the American Public(including liberals) were willing to give Bush a chance. The hatered came later

Republicans have never given President Obama a chance


You obviously forget the specter of several weeks of bogus recount after recount. You forget the media declaring Gore the winner and then watching some of them actually shed tears when the U.S. Supreme Court smacked down the Florida Supreme Court allowing the Florida Secretary of State to finally certify that Bush had carried the state giving Bush the WH.

You can't possible believe that Bush won the election fair.

Watch Recount. If you can watch that movie and still believe that Bush won fair,I feel very,very sorry for you. There was so much corruption in that election on the side of the Bush campaign it was sickening.



The Supreme Court gave Bush the presidency,plain and simple.

Even with all that,I was willing to give him a chance,as was my entire family,and most of the Dems/Liberals I know.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 4, 2010 1:05pm
I give him all the chances he can seize in four years. I can't give him more than that right now.

Thus far he has proved to me he is who I thought he was.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Jan 4, 2010 1:21pm
The last year has been the worst political environment in my lifetime, we're looking at record debt, generational record unemployment and a government sector that is growing beyond anything imagined, and an administration that is at best aloof to the private sector.

If the GOP could put anything worth a salt together next year for Congress and in 2012 for the Presidency, they'll win easily, unfortunately I'm not sure they can do that. What I do know is that the current regime couldn't be more ineffective.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 4, 2010 1:39pm
Elliot Stabler wrote: I'm talking about right from the very very start p-town

The majority of the American Public(including liberals) were willing to give Bush a chance. The hatered came later

That is a 100% falsehood.
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Jan 4, 2010 1:41pm
Based on these statements......
Elliot Stabler wrote: You can't possible believe that Bush won the election fair.

Watch Recount. If you can watch that movie and still believe that Bush won fair,I feel very,very sorry for you. There was so much corruption in that election on the side of the Bush campaign it was sickening.



The Supreme Court gave Bush the presidency,plain and simple.


I do not believe this statement for even one second......
Elliot Stabler wrote: Even with all that,I was willing to give him a chance,as was my entire family,and most of the Dems/Liberals I know.
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Elliot Stabler
Posts: 388
Jan 4, 2010 1:46pm
Believe what you want....I gave the man a chance,even after all that
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 4, 2010 1:49pm
What were you in 2000, 3 ? 5?
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Jan 4, 2010 1:50pm
Elliot Stabler wrote: Believe what you want....I gave the man a chance,even after all that
I will...and I do.
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BCSbunk
Posts: 972
Jan 4, 2010 1:50pm
There is polarization in the US and unfounded, but that is the way it is. Divide and conquer has always been successful and it still is working to this day.

I do not believe that President Obama has any more hatred bestowed upon him than former President Bush had upon him. Confirmation bias is now the standard of reasoning amongst the majority of Americans and it is saddening. Both sides make ridiculous claims that are false and unsubstantiated.

The people are only following the leaders and what they see on the news. Divide and Conquer is happening now with just a few issues.

On the whole and I am not a Republican or Democrat, I disagree with the OP.