Uz2Bon36
Posts: 1,135
Mar 30, 2015 5:20pm
[/h][h=1]Cleveland State University will no longer fund wrestling, but will add lacrosse
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/03/cleveland_state_university_will_no_longer_fund_wrestling_but_will_add_lacrosse.html
Interesting to note Cleveland will be hosting the NCAA wrestling championships in a few years too.
F*ck Cleveland and CSU.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 30, 2015 7:56pm
Lacrosse is a better product to sell. Sucks for wrestling fans/family etc. Smart from a business/athletic department side.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Mar 30, 2015 8:05pm
The AD played lacrosse and his wife coaches it. They have told the program they need $800,000 to cover the next two years and then $5 million in endowment to keep it going. Oh, they need the $800,000 by March 31st, 2016.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Mar 30, 2015 8:25pm
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 30, 2015 8:34pm
Based on what? I have been hearing for years now that Lacrosse is going to be the new main stream sport in this country, and it hasn't even been close to happening. Lacrosse's attendance has been flattening, meanwhile wrestling continues to sell out arenas for the NCAA tournament. Next year the NCAA tournament will be at MSG. Wrestling also costs far less than lacrosse. I like lacrosse, but to make this out to be a smart business decision (especially in NE Ohio where wrestling is very popular) just would not be accurate.Laley23;1717432 wrote:Lacrosse is a better product to sell. Sucks for wrestling fans/family etc. Smart from a business/athletic department side.
Also:
"CSU did not want to drop a sport but cannot afford the additional cost of about $900,000 a year to add two sports, because if it added lacrosse it would have to add a women's sport to meet federal Title IX requirements, officials said Monday."
1. Just another reason for me to say FUCK Title IX and
2. Just another reason why I LOL at people who think women are still at a disadvantage.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 30, 2015 8:38pm
Yeah, that's what they call bullshit. You do not need 800k to run a wrestling program. The president is just trying to place the cost of adding another women's sport on wrestling, because he wanted to see his own fucking sport at his school.Con_Alma;1717434 wrote:The President played lacrosse and his wife coaches it. They have told the program they need $800,000 to cover the next two years and then $5 million in endowment to keep it going. Oh, they need the $800,000 by March 31st.
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Sonofanump
Mar 30, 2015 9:41pm
This is the only thing.like_that;1717438 wrote:Title IX
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Mar 31, 2015 6:00am
My apologies. It's the not the President but the AD that played lacrosse and who's wife coaches it.like_that;1717439 wrote:Yeah, that's what they call bullshit. You do not need 800k to run a wrestling program. The president is just trying to place the cost of adding another women's sport on wrestling, because he wanted to see his own fucking sport at his school.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 31, 2015 7:56am
Most certainly, the choice to drop wrestling in favor of lacrosse appears to be dubious at best, but within the University's perogative. Most certainly Title IX DOES enter into this.
Most certainly this has nothing to do with CLEVELAND, and you are an idiot if you think it does.
Most certainly this has nothing to do with CLEVELAND, and you are an idiot if you think it does.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 31, 2015 8:00am
Well, we all know said is a dipshit, who tries too hard. That's why I just chose stick with the real discussion.HitsRus;1717498 wrote:Most certainly, the choice to drop wrestling in favor of lacrosse appears to be dubious at best, but within the University's perogative. Most certainly Title IX DOES enter into this.
Most certainly this has nothing to do with CLEVELAND, and you are an idiot if you think it does.
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Mar 31, 2015 8:45am
Sometimes I think lacrosse only exists to give kids a chance to play D1 sports that never would have had the opportunity. I don't see it going anywhere due to the demographic that plays it.
Uz2Bon36
Posts: 1,135
Mar 31, 2015 10:01am
like_that;1717502 wrote:Well, we all know said is a dipshit, who tries too hard. That's why I just chose stick with the real discussion.
This. The OP being a dipshit and hating Cleveland as a whole has nothing to do with CSU dropping wrestling.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 31, 2015 11:33am
Can't women wrestle? Didn't Holly Mangold wrestle?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 31, 2015 11:54am
Yes and no she played football.Commander of Awesome;1717556 wrote:Can't women wrestle? Didn't Holly Mangold wrestle?
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Mar 31, 2015 12:22pm
Yes, but I don't know if there are any girl-only wrestling programs in high school or college. All that I've seen in Ohio have competed on the same team as the boys. Usually as cannon-fodder, but there have been a few decent ones. One won a match at state a couple years ago that I recall.Commander of Awesome;1717556 wrote:Can't women wrestle? Didn't Holly Mangold wrestle?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 31, 2015 12:26pm
Ohio doesn't have sanctioned girls wrestling. I believe Texas and Hawaii does though. There is women's wrestling at the club college level, but not at the NCAA level.Heretic;1717568 wrote:Yes, but I don't know if there are any girl-only wrestling programs in high school or college. All that I've seen in Ohio have competed on the same team as the boys. Usually as cannon-fodder, but there have been a few decent ones. One won a match at state a couple years ago that I recall.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 31, 2015 12:54pm
Title IX; terrible.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 31, 2015 1:32pm
There most certainly is women's wrestling at the collegiate level, although I don't know if Ohio colleges have any programs. Two Wayne County girls wrestle for Campbellsvile(Kentucky) and placed 2nd and 8th at nationals in their respective weight classes.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 31, 2015 1:34pm
That would be club wrestling as I mentioned.HitsRus;1717584 wrote:There most certainly is women's wrestling at the collegiate level, although I don't know if Ohio colleges have any programs. Two Wayne County girls wrestle for Campbellsvile(Kentucky) and placed 2nd and 8th at nationals in their respective weight classes.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 31, 2015 1:35pm
They can and graduate to the G.L.O.W. wrestling circuit...Commander of Awesome;1717556 wrote:Can't women wrestle? Didn't Holly Mangold wrestle?
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Mar 31, 2015 2:03pm
Way too expensive for all the schools to buy mud or KY jelly.Commander of Awesome;1717556 wrote:Can't women wrestle? Didn't Holly Mangold wrestle?
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Mar 31, 2015 3:07pm
This is one of the dumber posts I've seen during my OC tenure.Uz2Bon36;1717385 wrote:[/h]
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/03/cleveland_state_university_will_no_longer_fund_wrestling_but_will_add_lacrosse.html
Interesting to note Cleveland will be hosting the NCAA wrestling championships in a few years too.
F*ck Cleveland and CSU.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 31, 2015 6:47pm
Just make it completely co-ed then and make everyone STFU.Heretic;1717568 wrote:Yes, but I don't know if there are any girl-only wrestling programs in high school or college. All that I've seen in Ohio have competed on the same team as the boys. Usually as cannon-fodder, but there have been a few decent ones. One won a match at state a couple years ago that I recall.