FatHobbit;1794090 wrote:I agree with Ptown and sleeper about Trump. He is an asshole and a bully. (I actually can't wait to see if Hillary gets away with just laughing off the hard questions with Trump and to see if he bullies her in the debates)

That doesn't change all the shady shit Hillary has been involved with. I don't understand how she gets away with it. To pretend like she didn't say Benghazi was about a YouTube video? Wtf EVERYONE watched that right? And she straight up acts like it never happened. I don't understand. I know previous administrations have used personal email servers to get around giving up their emails and I don't think it's the end of the world. But you can't tell me she isn't doing everything possible to drag this out and cooperate as little as possible but just enough to make it look like she is cooperating. "I gave you all the emails I had. Oops they found 100,000 more? Well I didn't know." She's shady AS FUCK and deserves everything that is said about her. I'm still hoping they bring charges before the election.

I can't vote for either of them even as a vote against the other. I won't participate in anything that legitimizes either of them as president.

SportsAndLady;1794089 wrote:But you're still voting for an awful candidate.

Heretic;1794097 wrote:Regardless of who wins, if you vote for either, you're voting for an awful candidate. It's basically a matter of if you want to maintain the status quo of the past handful of decades or go with the complete unknown. Or, in the context of this site, if you want to watch QQuaker cry like a little bitch about every single thing imaginable (while ironically making fun of "liberal safe zones" and other stupid shit) for 4 more years or watch him comically act like every problem in the world has magically been solved because a R is in office.

It's totally great to have that inspiring of a choice... Where "typical corrupt politician" is the safe choice and "dude that'll say ANYTHING to get press" is the alternative.

Heretic;1794097 wrote:Regardless of who wins, if you vote for either, you're voting for an awful candidate. It's basically a matter of if you want to maintain the status quo of the past handful of decades or go with the complete unknown. Or, in the context of this site, if you want to watch QQuaker cry like a little bitch about every single thing imaginable (while ironically making fun of "liberal safe zones" and other stupid shit) for 4 more years or watch him comically act like every problem in the world has magically been solved because a R is in office.

It's totally great to have that inspiring of a choice... Where "typical corrupt politician" is the safe choice and "dude that'll say ANYTHING to get press" is the alternative.

SportsAndLady;1794089 wrote:But you're still voting for an awful candidate.

FatHobbit;1794090 wrote:I agree with Ptown and sleeper about Trump. He is an asshole and a bully. (I actually can't wait to see if Hillary gets away with just laughing off the hard questions with Trump and to see if he bullies her in the debates)

like_that;1794096 wrote:None of the previous admins used a private email server. This has already been debunked as a piss poor defense http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/09/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-said-my-predecessors-did-same-thin/.

Automatik;1794114 wrote:My hopes are this....

Hillary wins, continues the same bullshit.

Then the GOP takes a real good fucking look at themselves, gets with the times and revamps.

sleeper;1794115 wrote:As long as the GOP caters to religious people and their backwards social aspect, they will continue to lose national elections. Congress may still trend 50/50 but I don't see the GOP being competitive on a national scale anymore.

Apple;1794125 wrote:The HRC team is playing the "Woman Card" for real! This election is going to be fascinating to watch. You can't make this stuff up!

"The campaign asks supporters for a donation so they can get their own “woman card”. “…you’ll be able to play the woman card anytime you want,” the email reads."

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-21-times-hillary-played-the-woman-card/

sleeper;1794115 wrote:As long as the GOP caters to religious people and their backwards social aspect, they will continue to lose national elections. Congress may still trend 50/50 but I don't see the GOP being competitive on a national scale anymore.

rocketalum;1794141 wrote:.... Let the social conservatives and evangelicals go form their own theocratic party and move on. Maybe then you can win a national election again.

rocketalum;1794145 wrote:Plus the added benefited of sealing them off in their own little echo chamber of a political party to scream about the gays, trans, and planned parenthood so the adults can start working through issues of public policy that actually matter. Everyone wins!

Automatik;1794114 wrote: Then the GOP takes a real good fucking look at themselves, gets with the times and revamps.

Automatik;1794164 wrote:I'm a registered independent and wasn't able to vote. I missed the deadline to declare a party.

Nice system we have here! :rolleyes:

gut;1794166 wrote:It's definitely broken. I'm not sure how to fix it, but I do think if all the people who vote Repub in November bothered to vote in the primaries, then we wouldn't have Trump (or Cruz for that matter). Not to mention how quickly candidates get weeded out, driven largely by states that won't factor into the general.

sleeper;1794115 wrote:As long as the GOP caters to religious people and their backwards social aspect, they will continue to lose national elections. Congress may still trend 50/50 but I don't see the GOP being competitive on a national scale anymore.

rocketalum;1794141 wrote:The weird alliance of fiscal conservatives, neocons, and the religious right that has made up the modern Republican party is falling apart on a national scale and you're right, it's that 3rd group that's dragging them down. Let the social conservatives and evangelicals go form their own theocratic party and move on. Maybe then you can win a national election again.

sleeper;1794078 wrote:Right. But a vote for Hillary makes Trump have to get an additional vote to win Virginia. A vote for Johnson doesn't help the goal of Trump losing.

majorspark;1794215 wrote:You are right them damn evangelicals.

like_that;1794127 wrote:Pretty much this. You would think they would learn their lesson from 2012. It's time to give up on most social issues.