Ohio Chatter
Ohio Chatter

Forums

All Threads Serious Business Sports Politics Archive Pick 'ems
Log In Create Account

Cleveland Browns Offseason Talk

Home ▸ Archive ▸ Pro Sports ▸ Cleveland Browns Offseason Talk
P

pkebker

Senior Member

760 posts
Jan 7, 2010 7:49 PM
Neither are worth all the money to franchise tag them...
Jan 7, 2010 7:49pm
P

pkebker

Senior Member

760 posts
Jan 13, 2010 3:23 PM
Tom Heckert said in an interview after the press conference on Jan 12, that the most important positions to have are a QB, OL, and DL. Do you think this will be their thinking for the draft and draft for those positions?

(Source is www.ClevelandBrowns.com)
Jan 13, 2010 3:23pm
H

h2thaizzo

Senior Member

256 posts
Jan 13, 2010 3:36 PM
pkebker wrote: Tom Heckert said in an interview after the press conference on Jan 12, that the most important positions to have are a QB, OL, and DL. Do you think this will be their thinking for the draft and draft for those positions?

(Source is www.ClevelandBrowns.com)
Perhaps, but I don't think it means they necessarily will address them early. Mangini in the past drafted C and LT early, well we already are set at those positions. I don't see us taking RT early, and if a guy is available via free agency, I wouldn't be surprised to see us get him there. I think selecting a QB early only happens if the 6 guys we really wanted to pick were drafted 1-6. There's a lot of depth at DL in this draft, but its not very top heavy.
Jan 13, 2010 3:36pm
P

pkebker

Senior Member

760 posts
Jan 13, 2010 6:37 PM
It seems our men at the top are offensive oriented, while the coach is defensive oriented. Which will we focus on?
Jan 13, 2010 6:37pm
D

devil1197

Senior Member

6,220 posts
Jan 13, 2010 7:03 PM
pkebker wrote: It seems our men at the top are offensive oriented, while the coach is defensive oriented. Which will we focus on?
They may be offensive oriented but that doesn't always translate into the draft. Right now there is so much talent on the defensive end and not that much top offensive talent. No RB is worry of a top 10 pick, no WR is either (not high on Bryant imo), and the QB's aren't overly impressive either.
Jan 13, 2010 7:03pm
iclfan2's avatar

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

6,360 posts
Jan 13, 2010 8:30 PM
pkebker wrote: It seems our men at the top are offensive oriented, while the coach is defensive oriented. Which will we focus on?
They will do whatever Holmgren wants. Mangini probably has almost no say in what goes on.
Jan 13, 2010 8:30pm
D

DaBrowns41

Senior Member

1,304 posts
Jan 15, 2010 2:07 PM
It doesn't matter what orientation you are, you take the BPA. You don't say, well, I know Berry, McCoy, and Suh are sitting there, but we need a WR worse, and take Dez Bryant.

You take the BPA, especially on a team like ours where no matter what position you take, that player will be able to fill in and play.

Even if we took a NT at #1, we could move Rogers to DE. Even if we took an OT at #1, we could move him to RT.

The only position I don't want to draft this year is QB's. There are three QB's in this draft I would like to take. Bradford, Clausen, and John Skelton, and I'm not touching Bradford or Clausen unless they slip into the second, which won't happen. Skelton will be around in round 5 or so, and makes a nice project.
Jan 15, 2010 2:07pm
P

pkebker

Senior Member

760 posts
Jan 15, 2010 2:18 PM
No QB period.

Other than that, I agree with you.
Jan 15, 2010 2:18pm
D

DaBrowns41

Senior Member

1,304 posts
Jan 15, 2010 2:22 PM
pkebker wrote: No QB period.

Other than that, I agree with you.
Well, with 11 picks, I don't think it'd hurt to bring a project in.

But I refuse to take a QB in the first 3-4 rounds.
Jan 15, 2010 2:22pm
P

pkebker

Senior Member

760 posts
Jan 15, 2010 5:33 PM
It seems like 'projects' virtually never pan out in both basketball and football.
Jan 15, 2010 5:33pm
D

DaBrowns41

Senior Member

1,304 posts
Jan 15, 2010 5:34 PM
pkebker wrote: It seems like 'projects' virtually never pan out in both basketball and football.
True, but that's what most later round picks end up being. You usually take a guy that has a high upside in hopes of coaching him up to a contributor.
Jan 15, 2010 5:34pm
P

pkebker

Senior Member

760 posts
Jan 15, 2010 5:38 PM
I have always felt that later rounds is a good time to show interest in the smaller school players. Players that have potentional but played on small stages. I think there are always a few 'steals' like this in every draft.
Jan 15, 2010 5:38pm
L

louy57

Member

47 posts
Jan 15, 2010 6:17 PM
Jevan Snead ole miss round three
Jan 15, 2010 6:17pm
D

DaBrowns41

Senior Member

1,304 posts
Jan 15, 2010 6:21 PM
louy57 wrote: Jevan Snead ole miss round three

Snead will be lucky to be drafted in round 5.
Jan 15, 2010 6:21pm
L

louy57

Member

47 posts
Jan 15, 2010 6:24 PM
who has qb rankings where they will be drafted ?
Jan 15, 2010 6:24pm
D

DaBrowns41

Senior Member

1,304 posts
Jan 15, 2010 6:32 PM
1. Jimmy Clausen (4)
2. Sam Bradford (14)
3. Colt McCoy (61)
4. Tim Tebow (64)
5. Sean Canfield (73)
6. Tony Pike (91)

Those are the 6 QB's who made my top 100.
Jan 15, 2010 6:32pm
P

pkebker

Senior Member

760 posts
Jan 15, 2010 8:06 PM
Who is Sean Canfield?
Jan 15, 2010 8:06pm
L

louy57

Member

47 posts
Jan 15, 2010 8:23 PM
You have McCoy over Tebow LOL
Jan 15, 2010 8:23pm
L

louy57

Member

47 posts
Jan 15, 2010 8:29 PM
Colt McCoy doesn't make reads. He lacks an NFL arm. He's small and fragile (see the scrimmage against Alabama). He needs to transition into an NFL offense and learn how to play under center. I don't see why he would be any sort of NFL prospect
Jan 15, 2010 8:29pm
P

pkebker

Senior Member

760 posts
Jan 15, 2010 8:31 PM
Tim Tebow's list of improvements is just as long...
Jan 15, 2010 8:31pm
L

louy57

Member

47 posts
Jan 15, 2010 8:32 PM
Bradford
Clausen
Tebow
and then i am gonna say snead,crompton,pike,canfield all will go in second third rounds
McCoy 5th rounder i hope we dont take him he sucks
Jan 15, 2010 8:32pm
L

louy57

Member

47 posts
Jan 15, 2010 8:35 PM
Tebow is gonna prove eveyone wrong ! He is a winner i would take him in a heart beat !
Jan 15, 2010 8:35pm
D

devil1197

Senior Member

6,220 posts
Jan 15, 2010 10:26 PM
Winner at the college level means jack shit in the NFL lol.
Jan 15, 2010 10:26pm
P

pkebker

Senior Member

760 posts
Jan 16, 2010 10:41 AM
Tebow would be good only as a wildcat QB...Not an everydown QB/starter
Jan 16, 2010 10:41am
L

louy57

Member

47 posts
Jan 16, 2010 1:11 PM
pkebker wrote: Tebow would be good only as a wildcat QB...Not an everydown QB/starter
How do you know cause someone else said so ?
Jan 16, 2010 1:11pm