Iliketurtles;1727531 wrote:I don't think really anyone is disagreeing that he should have gone through the supplemental draft. He even requested the league let him drop out of the draft and be allowed in the supplemental draft. The league (Goodell) said no. It's just another thing to go on the resume of the 2nd worse commissioner of all time in all sports.

There really wasn't anything Collins could do about it after that. Every team had a chance to draft him they choose not to. If someone did draft him then Collins could have either signed with them or not sign and just re-enter the draft next year. Since he wasn't drafted he got to do what every other undrafted player does, meet with teams and picks one who wants to sign him.

Iliketurtles;1727531 wrote:I don't think really anyone is disagreeing that he should have gone through the supplemental draft. He even requested the league let him drop out of the draft and be allowed in the supplemental draft. The league (Goodell) said no. It's just another thing to go on the resume of the 2nd worse commissioner of all time in all sports.

There really wasn't anything Collins could do about it after that. Every team had a chance to draft him they choose not to. If someone did draft him then Collins could have either signed with them or not sign and just re-enter the draft next year. Since he wasn't drafted he got to do what every other undrafted player does, meet with teams and picks one who wants to sign him.

like_that;1727544 wrote:I really don't know wtf mulva is disagreeing about I was just giving my case. It's not about what Collins did, but the fact the league allowed a top prospect slip thru the cracks and choose his own team without giving that team any risk. NFL needs to do all it can do to keep the league competitive and fair. That's allegedly a big part of their job.

like_that;1727544 wrote:I really don't know wtf mulva is disagreeing about I was just giving my case. It's not about what Collins did, but the fact the league allowed a top prospect slip thru the cracks and choose his own team without giving that team any risk. NFL needs to do all it can do to keep the league competitive and fair. That's allegedly a big part of their job.

Mulva;1727552 wrote:I don't know how I could possibly make it any clearer. Every team had multiple chances to select him. There was no requirement for teams to pass on him, and there's nothing unfair about a free agent getting to select his own team.

Mulva;1727552 wrote:I don't know how I could possibly make it any clearer. Every team had multiple chances to select him. There was no requirement for teams to pass on him, and there's nothing unfair about a free agent getting to select his own team.

wildcats20;1727553 wrote:100% all of this.

Wanna blame someone for a free agent getting to pick his team? Blame the 32 teams for not drafting him.

wildcats20;1727553 wrote:100% all of this.

Wanna blame someone for a free agent getting to pick his team? Blame the 32 teams for not drafting him.

friendfromlowry;1727572 wrote:SMH Jacksonville

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12847295/dante-fowler-jr-jacksonville-jaguars-helped-field-rookie-minicamp

BR1986FB;1727573 wrote:(Knocks wood so it doesn't happen) but it seems like this used to be the Browns every year. Either LeCharles Bentley blowing out his knee or Braylon Edwards cutting his foot running barefoot or some other freak thing, year in and year out.

wildcats20;1727588 wrote:@AdamSchefter: Jaguars' 1st-round pick Dante Fowler tore his ACL and is out for the season, league source tells ESPN. Just wow.

Azubuike24;1727583 wrote: What was stopping any other team from offering more money than Dallas?

lhslep134;1727595 wrote:This tiny little document called the CBA and the rules contained therein.

like_that;1727596 wrote:Indeed, which brings up another point. If he is a FA, then he should be treated like one.

sleeper;1727599 wrote:I think what should happen is if a player says "I won't sign blah blah" and gets drafted by a team and the player does not sign; that player is owned by that team forever. You do not get to just enter the draft next year if you refuse to sign. Also, if you don't sign the year you are drafted, you lose any right to the minimums generated by that draft position.

This would solve the problem of thug cry baby prima-donnas ruining the NFL.

like_that;1727596 wrote:Indeed, which brings up another point. If he is a FA, then he should be treated like one.

lhslep134;1727601 wrote:I have no idea what you mean by this. He was treated as an UDFA under the rules of the CBA.

HighRoller74;1727716 wrote:I assume he means like a regular FA, not as a UDFA.

Azubuike24;1727746 wrote:I wasn't aware there was a limit on UDFA salaries. Does this include 1-year? 3-years? Guaranteed money? How can you put a limit on a free agent?