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Dec 14, 2014 3:47 PM
First post. if the Browns line is healthy it doesn't matter who is QB. Hoyer should have started.
Dec 14, 2014 3:47pm
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Dec 14, 2014 3:51 PM
On the bright side, this is the first time in 6 weeks they didn't miss a FG
Dec 14, 2014 3:51pm
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Dec 14, 2014 3:52 PM
lol
Dec 14, 2014 3:52pm
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Dec 14, 2014 3:53 PM
ts1227;1686072 wrote:On the bright side, this is the first time in 6 weeks they didn't miss a FG
Kind of a crazy and hard to believe stat
Dec 14, 2014 3:53pm
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Dec 14, 2014 3:53 PM
What an embarrassing loss. Completely owned in every facet of the game.
Dec 14, 2014 3:53pm
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Dec 14, 2014 3:55 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1686077 wrote:What an embarrassing loss. Completely owned in every facet of the game.
If you told me dalton was going to give that stat line before the game, I would have predicted a win. Just pathetic and glad I turned the tv off after the half.
Dec 14, 2014 3:55pm
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Dec 14, 2014 3:59 PM
like_that;1686078 wrote:If you told me dalton was going to give that stat line before the game, I would have predicted a win. Just pathetic and glad I turned the tv off after the half.
Yeah, we really need to get healthy on the defensive side of the ball. We've snuck by a few times over the last month and a half by getting the other team to turn the ball over, but when they commit to the run, our defense is a sieve. Offense had NOTHING going for them. Bengals dared us to pass by committing their focus to the run, and we couldn't do it. Offensive line couldn't block one of the least productive defensive lines in the league. Just pathetic.
Dec 14, 2014 3:59pm
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Dec 14, 2014 4:01 PM
My god, that was awful.
Dec 14, 2014 4:01pm
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Dec 14, 2014 4:24 PM
Well, that was a coat hanger abortion if I've ever saw one. Defense looked like shit, Manziel looked like shit, O-Line looked like shit. These last two weeks probably won't be fun to watch.
Dec 14, 2014 4:24pm
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Dec 14, 2014 4:29 PM
John Lynch did make a decent point that the Browns playmakers need to adapt to playing with a scramble first, throw on the move QB.

The Bengals did well in coverage, but Manziel did have a few plays where he had some scramble room and that's exactly where he's got potential to make big plays. He certainly doesn't look like he can drop back and make great throws from inside a pocket.
Dec 14, 2014 4:29pm
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Dec 14, 2014 4:32 PM
In the absence of a running game, no one wins.

JFF, or anyone else would have lost this game.
Dec 14, 2014 4:32pm
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Dec 14, 2014 5:24 PM


What I watched he actually made a couple good decisions but either the receiver didn't hold on (Hawkins) or a penalty negated it. He had plenty of dumb rookie stuff.

He's saying the right things but his past behavior has put a big ol target on his back...everyone's going to relish the chance to show him up. I probably only watched a quarter of the game but that was as bad as I have seen Ckeveland play in some time.
Dec 14, 2014 5:24pm
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Dec 14, 2014 5:31 PM
Azubuike24;1686094 wrote:John Lynch did make a decent point that the Browns playmakers need to adapt to playing with a scramble first, throw on the move QB.

The Bengals did well in coverage, but Manziel did have a few plays where he had some scramble room and that's exactly where he's got potential to make big plays. He certainly doesn't look like he can drop back and make great throws from inside a pocket.
Devils Advocate;1686095 wrote:In the absence of a running game, no one wins.

JFF, or anyone else would have lost this game.
Both good points, but what's the defenses' excuse?
Dec 14, 2014 5:31pm
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Dec 14, 2014 5:39 PM
vball10set;1686124 wrote:Both good points, but what's the defenses' excuse?
They definitely got gouged. Didn't put the playcalling in a position to succeed. No excuse for JFF though. He still looked like a rookie in his first start. Bad.
Dec 14, 2014 5:39pm
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Dec 14, 2014 5:41 PM
I think Shannahan has to be less predictable with play calling. The Bengals didn't respect the passing game at all, and running every first down played right into their hands. That doesn't excuse the bad decisions that Manziel made, but you have to help a rookie QB a little more.
Dec 14, 2014 5:41pm
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Dec 14, 2014 5:43 PM
se-alum;1686127 wrote:I think Shannahan has to be less predictable with play calling. The Bengals didn't respect the passing game at all, and running every first down played right into their hands. That doesn't excuse the bad decisions that Manziel made, but you have to help a rookie QB a little more.
He did that shit against Buffalo and I was pulling my hair out. Set Hoyer up for failure with 2nd/3rd & longs almost every series. When they completed a rare pass on 1st down, it opened up the running game.
Dec 14, 2014 5:43pm
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Dec 14, 2014 6:10 PM
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Dec 14, 2014 6:10pm
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Dec 14, 2014 6:45 PM
^not surprised the old dudes thought that was funny
Dec 14, 2014 6:45pm
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Dec 14, 2014 7:07 PM
Well lhslep was spot on. There was going to be overreaction regardless of JFF's performance. Not really surprising. I do find it idiotic that some browns fans are mocking JFF's performance. You realize he plays for our team, right? I rather IQQY/FW be right and gloat about it, then us have to find a new QB after next season.

JFF had a heavy dose of humble pie today. It might be what he needs, especially heading to the off season.
Dec 14, 2014 7:07pm
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Dec 14, 2014 7:10 PM
SportsAndLady;1686142 wrote:^not surprised the old dudes thought that was funny
lol
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Dec 14, 2014 7:23 PM
ts1227;1686072 wrote:On the bright side, this is the first time in 6 weeks they didn't miss a FG
lol, reps
Dec 14, 2014 7:23pm
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Dec 14, 2014 7:47 PM
Like I said this is cleveland and nothing surprises me anymore
Dec 14, 2014 7:47pm
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Dec 14, 2014 8:26 PM
like_that;1686147 wrote:Well lhslep was spot on. There was going to be overreaction regardless of JFF's performance. Not really surprising. I do find it idiotic that some browns fans are mocking JFF's performance. You realize he plays for our team, right? I rather IQQY/FW be right and gloat about it, then us have to find a new QB after next season.

JFF had a heavy dose of humble pie today. It might be what he needs, especially heading to the off season.
Yeah, I don't get the "use two 1st's to move up for Mariota" crap after just one game.

A few could see this one coming from a mile away. Too much hype for the Browns/Manziel while the Bengals got to sit back and lay low.

Now that all of the commotion has settled, let's see how JFF does before pulling the plug. He looked like shit today but so have many rookies in their first start.
Dec 14, 2014 8:26pm