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Apr 7, 2015 10:29 AM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1719617 wrote:I'd do Manziel and a 2nd for Bradford. I think Bradford could be a decent QB with the offensive line we have, and he's an accurate QB which would be a nice change. Not willing to budge on a 1st, though.
Precisely my thoughts. I'd give them a 2nd with Manziel but not a 1st.
Apr 7, 2015 10:29am
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Apr 7, 2015 10:36 AM
BR1986FB;1719618 wrote:Precisely my thoughts. I'd give them a 2nd with Manziel but not a 1st.
I don't think Bradford is worth a 1st and I don't think Manziel is worth anything. I'd give them a 2nd for Bradford if they take Manziel along with them.
Apr 7, 2015 10:36am
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Apr 7, 2015 10:40 AM
sleeper;1719620 wrote:I don't think Bradford is worth a 1st and I don't think Manziel is worth anything. I'd give them a 2nd for Bradford if they take Manziel along with them.
Bradford and JFF have both proven nothing in the NFL. No clue why JFF is worth anything to you br, he's thrash.
Apr 7, 2015 10:40am
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Apr 7, 2015 10:42 AM
Commander of Awesome;1719621 wrote:Bradford and JFF have both proven nothing in the NFL. No clue why JFF is worth anything to you br, he's thrash.
He's not worth anything to me but a trade for Bradford should be a straight up pick. No need to throw any player in to sweeten the deal, even if it is someone with no value like JFF.
Apr 7, 2015 10:42am
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Apr 7, 2015 10:44 AM
BR1986FB;1719624 wrote:He's not worth anything to me but a trade for Bradford should be a straight up pick. No need to throw any player in to sweeten the deal, even if it is someone with no value like JFF.
Am I the only one failing to follow BR's logic here?
Apr 7, 2015 10:44am
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Apr 7, 2015 10:48 AM
Commander of Awesome;1719625 wrote:Am I the only one failing to follow BR's logic here?
I think he's saying even if JFF isn't worth anything right now it's not worth throwing him in there just to throw in there, in the off chance he develops any value going forward?

If not that, no idea.
Apr 7, 2015 10:48am
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Apr 7, 2015 11:13 AM
Commander of Awesome;1719621 wrote:Bradford and JFF have both proven nothing in the NFL. No clue why JFF is worth anything to you br, he's thrash.
Not sure why I was quoted by let me clarify. I think Bradford sucks and JFF sucks but I'd rather have Bradford if it gets Manziel out of Cleveland for good.
Apr 7, 2015 11:13am
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Apr 7, 2015 11:21 AM
sleeper;1719632 wrote:Not sure why I was quoted by let me clarify. I think Bradford sucks and JFF sucks but I'd rather have Bradford if it gets Manziel out of Cleveland for good.
Quoting bc I agree. Bradford isn't worth a first. Only thing he's proven is that he's made of glass, folds in the pocket under minor pressure, and has gotten less accurate over his time in the NFL. His "best" season was good enough for top 26 in the league. I'm shocked the Rams got what they did out of him (Foles and a 2nd).
Apr 7, 2015 11:21am
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Apr 7, 2015 11:24 AM
Commander of Awesome;1719636 wrote:Quoting bc I agree. Bradford isn't worth a first. Only thing he's proven is that he's made of glass, folds in the pocket under minor pressure, and has gotten less accurate over his time in the NFL. His "best" season was good enough for top 26 in the league. I'm shocked the Rams got what they did out of him (Foles and a 2nd).
Top 26 is being generous. He's probably top 27 at best.
Apr 7, 2015 11:24am
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Apr 7, 2015 11:57 AM
In his defense, during his time with the Rams (2010-2013, no games played in 2014), his offensive lines ranked 26th (2010), 28th (2011), and 26th (2012), before jumping up to 13th in 2013, large in part to the addition of Jake Long. However, even then, they ranked 17th in pass blocking, with the interior of Chris Williams, Harvey Dahl, and Scott Wells leaving much to be desired. I'm pretty confident that he could be the best option we've had in a long time with the offensive line that we have.
Apr 7, 2015 11:57am
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Apr 7, 2015 12:23 PM
BR1986FB;1719660 wrote:I have to disagree with Couch being on their "notable" list. Hell, I think Mingo has been a worse pick than Couch.....

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25137781/worst-first-round-nfl-draft-pick-for-each-team-since-1990
I disagree with Couch and Brown. How are they ahead of Big Money, Quinn, Faine, Williams?
Apr 7, 2015 12:23pm
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Apr 7, 2015 12:31 PM
Commander of Awesome;1719664 wrote:I disagree with Couch and Brown. How are they ahead of Big Money, Quinn, Faine, Williams?
Agreed. Weeden was horrible but nowhere near as bad as Quinn, and they were taken with the same pick (#22).
Apr 7, 2015 12:31pm
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Apr 7, 2015 12:49 PM
BR1986FB;1719669 wrote:Agreed. Weeden was horrible but nowhere near as bad as Quinn, and they were taken with the same pick (#22).
Quinn was seen as the savior by many. Weeden was a WTF pick from the start.
Apr 7, 2015 12:49pm
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Apr 7, 2015 3:08 PM
Well, an NBA title is within grasp, would say within 2, 3 seasons MAX if not already this year.

Browns......might be a few seasons away
Apr 7, 2015 3:08pm
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Apr 7, 2015 3:10 PM
thavoice;1719715 wrote:Well, an NBA title is within grasp, would say within 2, 3 seasons MAX if not already this year.

Browns......might be a few seasons away
I think the Cavs & Tribe have legit shots this year. I'm hoping the Browns have another shot in my lifetime.
Apr 7, 2015 3:10pm
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Apr 7, 2015 3:10 PM
thavoice;1719715 wrote:Well, an NBA title is within grasp, would say within 2, 3 seasons MAX if not already this year.

Browns......might be a few seasons away
You're a moron.

Anyway, that article/study just trash. Cleveland has been suffering for a championship?!?! Color me shocked. Did they get that story from oldnews.com?
Apr 7, 2015 3:10pm
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Apr 7, 2015 3:11 PM
BR1986FB;1719716 wrote:I think the Cavs & Tribe have legit shots this year. I'm hoping the Browns have another shot in my lifetime.
The cavs and tribe will have a decent window the next few years.
Apr 7, 2015 3:11pm
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Apr 7, 2015 3:14 PM
BR1986FB;1719716 wrote:I think the Cavs & Tribe have legit shots this year. I'm hoping the Browns have another shot in my lifetime.
Cavs. No doubt they should win it within the next 2-3.
Indians....possibly.
Apr 7, 2015 3:14pm
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Apr 7, 2015 3:23 PM
like_that;1719717 wrote:You're a moron.

Anyway, that article/study just trash. Cleveland has been suffering for a championship?!?! Color me shocked. Did they get that story from oldnews.com?
Why does what he said classify him for "moron" status?
Apr 7, 2015 3:23pm
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Apr 7, 2015 3:25 PM
BR1986FB;1719723 wrote:Why does what he said classify him for "moron" status?
To him, everything I say classifies me as one.

Not denying that I am, but he has this infatuation with always trying to rip me.
Apr 7, 2015 3:25pm