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Mar 20, 2015 1:40 PM
bases_loaded;1715154 wrote:We use his game against Ohio state against him but his line got owned.
That's not true. The criticisms of Mariota have nothing to do with his performance in the title game. The criticisms are based on the fact he didn't have to operate like an NFL quarterback with all of the pre-snap reads and audibles like Winston did. He was operating a high speed, dumbed down offense.
Mar 20, 2015 1:40pm
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Mar 20, 2015 1:44 PM
lhslep134;1715161 wrote:That's not true. The criticisms of Mariota have nothing to do with his performance in the title game. The criticisms are based on the fact he didn't have to operate like an NFL quarterback with all of the pre-snap reads and audibles like Winston did. He was operating a high speed, dumbed down offense.
I did hear an NFL official say they were very surprised with how intelligent Mariota was "on the board" though. With that said, do I think Mariota could be a good NFL quarterback? Yes. Do I think there will be a learning curve? Yes. Do I think Browns fans will give him the time he needs to progress through that learning curve? No.
Mar 20, 2015 1:44pm
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Mar 20, 2015 2:27 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1715162 wrote:I did hear an NFL official say they were very surprised with how intelligent Mariota was "on the board" though. With that said, do I think Mariota could be a good NFL quarterback? Yes. Do I think there will be a learning curve? Yes. Do I think Browns fans will give him the time he needs to progress through that learning curve? No.
I also think Mariota will easily overcome those criticisms. I was only saying that they have nothing to do with the title game.
Mar 20, 2015 2:27pm
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Mar 20, 2015 3:03 PM
bases_loaded;1715154 wrote:For two years we wanted Teddy then he was there and we passed and he was pretty good. This year feels the same with Mariotta. Everyone wants to doubt his ability to adjust but his tools are undeniable. We use his game against Ohio state against him but his line got owned. Move up and take the guy and don't look back.


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It wasnt like MM was bad against OSU. Wasnt he missing his two top receivers, one to injury the game prior and one to suspension?
There were two very, very costly drops early in that game. They make those catches and who knows what happens. OSU's OL won that game with the running game. Does OSU stick to it as much if they happen to go down 14-0? Very well could be singing a diff tune. I imagine Meyer sticks to his game plan but you never know what will happen if those two easy catches were made early on. Either way...MM comes out looking much better if those easy plays were made and could have lead to much more.
Mar 20, 2015 3:03pm
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Mar 20, 2015 6:30 PM
bases_loaded;1715154 wrote:Move up and take the guy and don't look back.
Hell. No. If he falls to us whatever, but no way do I want to trade up for the guy. We have had terrible uses of 1st round picks, don't want to waste them again. If it were a Luckesque prospect than sure, but no way for MM.
Mar 20, 2015 6:30pm
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Mar 20, 2015 7:43 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1715160 wrote:I like Hundley, but I think we'd probably have to take him in the 2nd if we want him. Who knows though. This whole Mariota thing could be smoke screen.
I can't think of any recent example of a QB that was inaccurate in college that became accurate in the pros. Same thing I don't like about bryce petty.
Mar 20, 2015 7:43pm
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Mar 20, 2015 10:14 PM


Supposedly this isn't the actual design but I like it if it is.
Mar 20, 2015 10:14pm
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Mar 21, 2015 5:36 AM
Sonofanump;1715152 wrote:Not saying "the next", but I seem some Randal Cunningham type tools in in Jones.
Or how about Byron Leftwich?
Mar 21, 2015 5:36am
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Mar 21, 2015 9:58 AM
Uz2Bon36;1715342 wrote:Or how about Byron Leftwich?
Was thinking more along this line or Culpepper.
Mar 21, 2015 9:58am
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Mar 21, 2015 12:54 PM
Should I buy a Dwayne Bowe, Josh McCown, or Johnny Manziel jersey to represent my next few seasons as a fan?
Mar 21, 2015 12:54pm
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Mar 21, 2015 2:44 PM
rydawg5;1715375 wrote:Should I buy a Dwayne Bowe, Josh McCown, or Johnny Manziel jersey to represent my next few seasons as a fan?
lol. I bought a Haden one not too long ago because they aren't many players you can count on sticking around.
Mar 21, 2015 2:44pm
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Mar 22, 2015 10:06 PM
Should be interesting to see how they portray the orginization.
Mar 22, 2015 10:06pm
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Mar 23, 2015 8:05 AM
Everybody likes a train wreck. Although, I'd like it just to get the behind the scenes stuff.


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Mar 23, 2015 11:28 AM
Here is how Rotoworld commented on the likelihood of the Browns being the choice for Hard Knocks:\

Vic Carucci of the Buffalo News is hearing the Browns are the "front-runner" to be featured on HBO's 2015 Hard Knocks series.

This would be a doozy. The Browns have reached a new low in terms of organizational dysfunction under (accused) federal criminal Jimmy Haslam, drafting Johnny Manziel per the owner's orders and also whiffing (so far) on No. 8 overall pick Justin Gilbert. Manziel has been in rehab for more than six weeks. GM Ray Farmer proved in well above his head in his first year on the job, illegally text messaging the Browns' sideline during 2014 games. The dysfunction led to OC Kyle Shanahan essentially quitting after the season. Currently, the Browns have easily the NFL's worst offensive depth chart. The Browns opening their doors to HBO's cameras would give the world a real chance to see what a perennial loser looks like, and why bad teams in the NFL tend to stay bad.
Mar 23, 2015 11:28am
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Mar 23, 2015 12:01 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1715762 wrote:Here is how Rotoworld commented on the likelihood of the Browns being the choice for Hard Knocks:\

Vic Carucci of the Buffalo News is hearing the Browns are the "front-runner" to be featured on HBO's 2015 Hard Knocks series.

This would be a doozy. The Browns have reached a new low in terms of organizational dysfunction under (accused) federal criminal Jimmy Haslam, drafting Johnny Manziel per the owner's orders and also whiffing (so far) on No. 8 overall pick Justin Gilbert. Manziel has been in rehab for more than six weeks. GM Ray Farmer proved in well above his head in his first year on the job, illegally text messaging the Browns' sideline during 2014 games. The dysfunction led to OC Kyle Shanahan essentially quitting after the season. Currently, the Browns have easily the NFL's worst offensive depth chart. The Browns opening their doors to HBO's cameras would give the world a real chance to see what a perennial loser looks like, and why bad teams in the NFL tend to stay bad.
Carucci might have an "in" as, up until recently, he was an employee of the Browns.
Mar 23, 2015 12:01pm
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Mar 23, 2015 12:02 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1715762 wrote:Here is how Rotoworld commented on the likelihood of the Browns being the choice for Hard Knocks:\

Vic Carucci of the Buffalo News is hearing the Browns are the "front-runner" to be featured on HBO's 2015 Hard Knocks series.

This would be a doozy. The Browns have reached a new low in terms of organizational dysfunction under (accused) federal criminal Jimmy Haslam, drafting Johnny Manziel per the owner's orders and also whiffing (so far) on No. 8 overall pick Justin Gilbert. Manziel has been in rehab for more than six weeks. GM Ray Farmer proved in well above his head in his first year on the job, illegally text messaging the Browns' sideline during 2014 games. The dysfunction led to OC Kyle Shanahan essentially quitting after the season. Currently, the Browns have easily the NFL's worst offensive depth chart. The Browns opening their doors to HBO's cameras would give the world a real chance to see what a perennial loser looks like, and why bad teams in the NFL tend to stay bad.
What a joke that bullshit is.
Mar 23, 2015 12:02pm
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Mar 23, 2015 1:28 PM
Love how the writer covers his ass for when Gilbert becomes a good player. More throwing shit from Rotoworld. Shocker.


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Mar 23, 2015 1:30 PM
Well they won't show it as a train wreck. The Browns are allowed to go in and actually watch the editing and make changes
Mar 23, 2015 1:30pm
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Mar 23, 2015 2:27 PM
I say let it happen. This way Haslam can join goodell's good boy club. All of a sudden farmer isn't being punished for text gate, Gordon's suspension is lifted and Pettine can get away with trying to trip opposing players.
Mar 23, 2015 2:27pm
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Mar 23, 2015 2:41 PM
Am I the only one that just doesn't care anymore about Browns offseasons? I mean all it has come too is the national media making us look like shit and the local media talking about the draft. Yawn.
Mar 23, 2015 2:41pm
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Mar 23, 2015 3:42 PM
DeyDurkie5;1715817 wrote:Am I the only one that just doesn't care anymore about Browns offseasons?
You're not alone. After the past few years I've become more & more disinterested in the offseason.
Mar 23, 2015 3:42pm
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Mar 23, 2015 5:31 PM
What in the fuck.
Mar 23, 2015 5:31pm