The Times They Are A-Changin'

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Dec 2, 2014 12:48pm
So, the company I work for got bought by a bigger fish last Friday. Everyone's kind of freaking out (even though we are all keeping our jobs). I've been through this once before with a different company. Not a very enjoyable time, but it made me think of these lyrics:

Come gather ’round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You’ll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you is worth savin’
Then you better start swimmin’ or you’ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin’

I guess I'd better be ready to swim!
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Dec 2, 2014 12:51pm
Three constants to life.....Death, taxes, and CHANGE.
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Dec 2, 2014 12:56pm
HitsRus;1681146 wrote:Three constants to life.....Death, taxes, and CHANGE.
Don't I know it...
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Dec 19, 2014 10:31am
So now that the old company completed the merger, they decided that they didn't need to pay me for my commissions to close out the year. They shorted me $2200 from my last paycheck, and I'm supposed to have another paycheck of over $6000 that I'm starting to question whether or not I'll receive it... Pretty sure they are legally obligated to pay me according to the agreement in my contract...
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Dec 19, 2014 10:33am
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1687732 wrote:Pretty sure they are legally obligated to pay me according to the agreement in my contract...
So send them a demand letter.
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Dec 19, 2014 10:43am
lhslep134;1687733 wrote:So send them a demand letter.
Supposedly, they were "out of money," so the new company sent them money to correct their payroll "errors". We shall see, I guess.
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Dec 19, 2014 2:06pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1687738 wrote:Supposedly, they were "out of money," so the new company sent them money to correct their payroll "errors". We shall see, I guess.
Take it out of their ass!! Knock the shit out of someone if they short ya!
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Dec 19, 2014 2:24pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1687732 wrote:So now that the old company completed the merger, they decided that they didn't need to pay me for my commissions to close out the year. They shorted me $2200 from my last paycheck, and I'm supposed to have another paycheck of over $6000 that I'm starting to question whether or not I'll receive it... Pretty sure they are legally obligated to pay me according to the agreement in my contract...
It is illegal to not pay a worker for time worked. I would send a semi-formal email to the company outlining the situation and if they refuse I'd contact a lawyer.
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Dec 19, 2014 2:30pm
sleeper;1687801 wrote:It is illegal to not pay a worker for time worked. I would send a semi-formal email to the company outlining the situation and if they refuse I'd contact a lawyer.
This is the plan... Next pay day is the 31, and if I don't have my money by then, there's going to be a real issue. If it was a hundred dollars or so, I wouldn't care that much, but we're talking about $8500 collectively, and that's horse crap. If it gets to that point, I might sue for more considering they're preventing me from having those funds available for the holidays. It's caused quite a bit of stress in my household...
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Dec 19, 2014 2:39pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1687805 wrote:This is the plan... Next pay day is the 31, and if I don't have my money by then, there's going to be a real issue. If it was a hundred dollars or so, I wouldn't care that much, but we're talking about $8500 collectively, and that's horse crap. If it gets to that point, I might sue for more considering they're preventing me from having those funds available for the holidays. It's caused quite a bit of stress in my household...
Depends on the state but typically you request a punitive value of 3x the outstanding balance. So in your case, the amount you would be entitled should you win your case would be $25,500.
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thavoice
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Dec 19, 2014 2:51pm
sleeper;1687801 wrote:It is illegal to not pay a worker for time worked. I would send a semi-formal email to the company outlining the situation and if they refuse I'd contact a lawyer.
I once worked at a place that was 11+ months behind on bonus pay. When they were that far behind I sent a letter to the owner and he was not aware and found out the reason why...the lady who sent in the request for the $$$ just didnt do it because it looked bad that her's was so far less than mine. He was going to fire her, but she had some sort of disability and thought it would look bad.

So I left the company. It has since changed hands and the new owners wiped the slate clean and got rid of everyone who was there. They did reach out to me to come back but gave them the big ole F-U
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Dec 19, 2014 2:58pm
thavoice;1687817 wrote:I once worked at a place that was 11+ months behind on bonus pay. When they were that far behind I sent a letter to the owner and he was not aware and found out the reason why...the lady who sent in the request for the $$$ just didnt do it because it looked bad that her's was so far less than mine. He was going to fire her, but she had some sort of disability and thought it would look bad.

So I left the company. It has since changed hands and the new owners wiped the slate clean and got rid of everyone who was there. They did reach out to me to come back but gave them the big ole F-U
I would have sued for the money.
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Dec 19, 2014 3:00pm
thavoice;1687817 wrote:I once worked at a place that was 11+ months behind on bonus pay. When they were that far behind I sent a letter to the owner and he was not aware and found out the reason why...the lady who sent in the request for the $$$ just didnt do it because it looked bad that her's was so far less than mine. He was going to fire her, but she had some sort of disability and thought it would look bad.

So I left the company. It has since changed hands and the new owners wiped the slate clean and got rid of everyone who was there. They did reach out to me to come back but gave them the big ole F-U
The good news is, I have connections with several vicious attorney's that I'm sure would love nothing more than getting in the spotlight in a slam dunk case against a large organization. That's always a positive lol
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thavoice
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Dec 19, 2014 3:13pm
sleeper;1687818 wrote:I would have sued for the money.
Oh, I got it. Wasnt going to waste $$ on a fucking lawyer.

Then when the new calender year rolled around, took all my vacation time in january, came back and put my 2 weeks notice in as a nice lil F-U.
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Dec 19, 2014 7:47pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1687819 wrote:The good news is, I have connections with several vicious attorney's that I'm sure would love nothing more than getting in the spotlight in a slam dunk case against a large organization. That's always a positive lol
All attorneys are vicious. They are intelligent people but they are the worst.
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Dec 31, 2014 12:00pm
Well, looks like I may need an attorney. After another pay period, they still owe me the other half of my commission from the December 15 pay period. I received my full commission for this period, but nothing more. I believe my final commission pay will be January 15, but I just don't see them paying me what I'm owed for that period and what they still owe me from the 15. It's not just me, either. They owe everyone in our office from the 15th still.
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Jan 8, 2015 9:35pm
After being advised by two different attorneys on the appropriate steps to take, I mailed a formal letter with signature confirmation requesting payment of what I'm owed. Should they decide against paying me what I'm owed, the next step would be take them to small claims court, in which they would have to send a representative to be at the hearing. I'm hoping they'd rather just settle than go through the trouble of all this...
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Jan 8, 2015 9:46pm
Your attorneys should probably advise against you posting detailed updates to a message board lol
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Jan 8, 2015 9:58pm
SportsAndLady;1694288 wrote:Your attorneys should probably advise against you posting detailed updates to a message board lol
What detailed updates are you referring to?
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Jan 8, 2015 10:02pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1694296 wrote:What detailed updates are you referring to?
Was wondering the same thing.

Just tell S&L that he owes you money or you'll beat him up. He'd pay it, or at least his parents would.
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Jan 8, 2015 10:53pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1694296 wrote:What detailed updates are you referring to?
I don't know. I guess if I was lawyering up, getting ready to sue a company, I wouldn't be posting about it online. But what do I know.
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Jan 8, 2015 10:54pm
Pick6;1694297 wrote:Was wondering the same thing.

Just tell S&L that he owes you money or you'll beat him up. He'd pay it, or at least his parents would.
Clever as fuck
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Jan 8, 2015 11:36pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1694281 wrote:After being advised by two different attorneys on the appropriate steps to take, I mailed a formal letter with signature confirmation requesting payment of what I'm owed. Should they decide against paying me what I'm owed, the next step would be take them to small claims court, in which they would have to send a representative to be at the hearing. I'm hoping they'd rather just settle than go through the trouble of all this...
So pretty much what I said. Congrats.
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Jan 9, 2015 11:04am
SportsAndLady;1694318 wrote:I don't know. I guess if I was lawyering up, getting ready to sue a company, I wouldn't be posting about it online. But what do I know.
Everything I've discussed has been in generalities. I've revealed no details whatsoever. And I simply confirmed pretty much that sleeper's advice in how to approach it was correct.

Nothing I've posted has provided any information really, other than the fact that my previous employer owes me money, and that I'm going to take legal action against them lol.