Haha, that was great.
He cost me a bet.
Sounds like Jordan went to the Dwight Clark School of General Management after Clark turned down the "Ditka Deal" back in 1999. I'm sure Ainge didn't offer nearly that much but it sounds like it was a significant haul.like_that;1737460 wrote:He cost me a bet.
Interesting question you pose. I had heard a similar topic brought up and it seems the way a lot of these teams are going is to bring in the younger HC, who can relate to the players (preferably having played in the league to give cred), and surround him by older assistants who may have had head coaching experience in the league to guide the younger guy.friendfromlowry;1737467 wrote:Tons of Knicks fans calling into Mad Dog radio this morning borderline suicidal because of the draft.
But it made me wonder: Would you rather have a younger, hungrier coach/GM vs the older, experienced guys? Phil Jackson is promising playoff wins soon while drafting these projects and passing up on guys because they don't fit into the triangle offense. Karl is rumored to be in hot water because of feuding with Cousins. Just wonder if the older coaches are set in their ways and it negatively affects the team.
Not to get all Sleeper with it but when was the last time a non-progressive coach won the NBA title or even competed for it? The game today requires the ability to adjust and the older coaches seem a lot more stubborn when it comes to integrating the versatile nature of today's NBA.friendfromlowry;1737467 wrote:Tons of Knicks fans calling into Mad Dog radio this morning borderline suicidal because of the draft.
But it made me wonder: Would you rather have a younger, hungrier coach/GM vs the older, experienced guys? Phil Jackson is promising playoff wins soon while drafting these projects and passing up on guys because they don't fit into the triangle offense. Karl is rumored to be in hot water because of feuding with Cousins. Just wonder if the older coaches are set in their ways and it negatively affects the team.
For the most part I don't know what Knicks fans are expecting. Jalen Rose was awful last night, but I agreed with him on this onefriendfromlowry;1737467 wrote:Tons of Knicks fans calling into Mad Dog radio this morning borderline suicidal because of the draft.
But it made me wonder: Would you rather have a younger, hungrier coach/GM vs the older, experienced guys? Phil Jackson is promising playoff wins soon while drafting these projects and passing up on guys because they don't fit into the triangle offense. Karl is rumored to be in hot water because of feuding with Cousins. Just wonder if the older coaches are set in their ways and it negatively affects the team.
I'm a Mudiay fan, but all he would have been on New York is Tyreke Evans as a rookie. Good numbers on a 25 win team. They're at least 3 years away from competing regardless.Automatik;1737497 wrote:I would have gone for Mudiay, not the 7' stick. They needed someone who can contribute immediately.
Mudiay's game doesn't fit in the triangle.Automatik;1737497 wrote:I would have gone for Mudiay, not the 7' stick. They needed someone who can contribute immediately.
Because he cant shoot, he's a pick and roll guard who attacks the rim. Typically those guards don't do well in the triangle.Automatik;1737507 wrote:Why not?
You're forgetting about 10 other great Yankee players who were gods in that city.Azubuike24;1737504 wrote:Catch 22 for Knicks' fans.
On one hand, if you're starting an NBA franchise, I want a guy with swagger who can also be a top 5 player in the world. Someone with a personality who will embrace the city, bring an overall representation of "New York" to the table and become a "figurehead" of the city. At the same time, this player has to be great. There have been very, very few in the history of New York sports. Derek Jeter. Mark Messier. Lawrence Taylor. Maybe a few others, but not many. Honestly, and it's not because of his background or his game, but I can see why a majority of their fan base says that no matter how good Porzingis becomes, he won't EVER be that. So picking him is a waste.
On the other hand, you're coming off a 5-year span where you thought you had that guy in Carmelo Anthony. He's the anti-thesis of a reason why you don't pay a guy who has immense talent, lives the "New York life" and has some swagger. In the end, what has he won? Exactly.
So pretty much Phil Jackson is in an impossible situation. Like the Lakers, the Knicks' fans expect them to have the best, and if they don't, they want the best and think they can get the best. So shy of Kevin Durant or LeBron James being there, anything less will be criticized.
However, I think D'Angelo Russell fits that mold and was the right pick for LA.
.Azubuike24;1737504 wrote:Catch 22 for Knicks' fans.
On one hand, if you're starting an NBA franchise, I want a guy with swagger who can also be a top 5 player in the world. Someone with a personality who will embrace the city, bring an overall representation of "New York" to the table and become a "figurehead" of the city. At the same time, this player has to be great. There have been very, very few in the history of New York sports. Derek Jeter. Mark Messier. Lawrence Taylor. Maybe a few others, but not many. Honestly, and it's not because of his background or his game, but I can see why a majority of their fan base says that no matter how good Porzingis becomes, he won't EVER be that. So picking him is a waste.
On the other hand, you're coming off a 5-year span where you thought you had that guy in Carmelo Anthony. He's the anti-thesis of a reason why you don't pay a guy who has immense talent, lives the "New York life" and has some swagger. In the end, what has he won? Exactly.
So pretty much Phil Jackson is in an impossible situation. Like the Lakers, the Knicks' fans expect them to have the best, and if they don't, they want the best and think they can get the best. So shy of Kevin Durant or LeBron James being there, anything less will be criticized.
However, I think D'Angelo Russell fits that mold and was the right pick for LA.