I've been saying this for a while. He's done.robj55;1707992 wrote:Just came here to post this, dude isn't gonna last a few more years in the league.
If he's not done physically then mentally he has to be shot.sleeper;1708033 wrote:I've been saying this for a while. He's done.
LeBron - 30 years oldsleeper;1708032 wrote:Lee? Old man winter.
Brandon Roy most recently.HighRoller74;1708010 wrote:Just like Grant Hill, Penny, and Gilbert Arenas.
Just something with their bodies where either they don't heal right or something.
This might be a better category for him. My 1st thought was D Rose knee is Grant Hill's ankle. You listed quite the group of powerful/fast guys....I think Bo is in a class of his own.Commander of Awesome;1708026 wrote:Rose is FREAK athlete, just like Courtney Brown, Lavar Arrington, Bo Jackson, Clowney, etc.. that just don't seem able to stay healthy. Never vetted my theory, but I've always thought at some point the human body can only take so big/strong/fast before it breaks down. There are obv exceptions.
Well when Lebron James ever gets forced out of a 45 loss team, then we can mention them on the same planet. Lee sucks. He would ride the bench on the Cavs and we have no front court.sportswizuhrd;1708037 wrote:LeBron - 30 years old
David Lee - 31 years old
Done physically. His MVP season was fraud.robj55;1708036 wrote:If he's not done physically then mentally he has to be shot.
The Cavs would be better off signing me to a league minimum contract off the bench behind Love than paying David Lee $13M to suck ass.gport_tennis;1708137 wrote:He'd be the first big off the bench behind love.
He's also only a 1 way player. Prob one of the worst defending PF in the game. Him, Userloserboozer, Love.robj55;1708143 wrote:C'mon man David Lee has been 20-10 basically since 08, he's been one of the more underrated players in the league. This year he hasn't been healthy and lost his role to Draymond Green.
There aren't very many PF's who are great defenders in the game tbh.Commander of Awesome;1708147 wrote:He's also only a 1 way player. Prob one of the worst defending PF in the game. Him, Userloserboozer, Love.
Aldridge, Jefferson, Ibaka, Draymond Green, Zach Randolph, KG, Timmy, Davis are a few off the top of my head. Some of those guys like Timmy/KG are past their prime though, and not sure how great of defenders they are anymore. But they have a rep as being solid to good+ defenders.robj55;1708169 wrote:There aren't very many PF's who are great defenders in the game tbh.
I like Taj Gibson, just depends on your team need and fit really. Acting like David Lee is some bum thought is ignorant, he's been underrated if anything.Commander of Awesome;1708185 wrote:Aldridge, Jefferson, Ibaka, Draymond Green, Zach Randolph, KG, Timmy, Davis are a few off the top of my head. Some of those guys like Timmy/KG are past their prime though, and not sure how great of defenders they are anymore. But they have a rep as being solid to good+ defenders.
David Lee may be a double double machine, like Amare was back in the day, but I'll take a Taj Gibson over him any day of the week.
I can't envision any team with David Lee as their 1st, 2nd option as a successful team. What Lee brings is a reb and some scoring. Taj Brings Reb, decent scorer, though not the shooter Lee is, and a + defender. I'll take him any day of the week, on any team over Lee.robj55;1708200 wrote:I like Taj Gibson, just depends on your team need and fit really. Acting like David Lee is some bum thought is ignorant, he's been underrated if anything.
Yeah I'm not saying he's a cornerstone player, but he's averaged 20 and 10 quite a few times in his career and seemed to fly under the radar. I always though Taj Gibson could start for almost any team int he league.Commander of Awesome;1708201 wrote:I can't envision any team with David Lee as their 1st, 2nd option as a successful team. What Lee brings is a reb and some scoring. Taj Brings Reb, decent scorer, though not the shooter Lee is, and a + defender. I'll take him any day of the week, on any team over Lee.
David Lee is a less athletic Griffin/Amare to me, which is far from a bum.
I thought we were talking about their age? You did call him old man winter...sleeper;1708134 wrote:Well when Lebron James ever gets forced out of a 45 loss team, then we can mention them on the same planet. Lee sucks. He would ride the bench on the Cavs and we have no front court.
That would be outstanding....but so much pressure on that kid. These often fizzle out.rydawg5;1708342 wrote:Lebron better watch out he going head to head with his son in 8 years haha
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Either you're not watching the Cavs this season, or just saying Love's defense is terrible out of habit.Commander of Awesome;1708147 wrote:He's also only a 1 way player. Prob one of the worst defending PF in the game. Him, Userloserboozer, Love.
Why does RW have a ?HighRoller74;1708405 wrote:Rondo isn't that good of a player anymore. He MIGHT be a top 15 PG.
KI
Wall
Paul
Curry
Parker
Conley
Teague
Lilliard
Dragic
Lowry
Westbrook?
Bledsoe
Would take all of the above over him without thinking twice.
D-Will
Rubio
Jackson
Knight
Would be the next group that I would listen to arguments for.
Combo guard vs PG is my only explanation.Ironman92;1708408 wrote:Why does RW have a ?