Cleveland Cavaliers Offseason 2014

Home ▸ Archive ▸ Pro Sports ▸ Cleveland Cavaliers Offseason 2014
lhslep134's avatar

lhslep134

why so serious?

9,774 posts
Jun 23, 2014 5:37 PM
Heretic;1629218 wrote:So they essentially got both guys they were really looking at as their head coach during the search? Pretty good deal.
And my assumption is that since they were both Griffin's final candidates, they share enough of the same approach to work well together.
Jun 23, 2014 5:37pm
S

sportswizuhrd

Senior Member

3,215 posts
Jun 23, 2014 11:35 PM
Jazz beat writer is saying that the team is trying their hand at getting the #1 pick from the Cavs.

#5, #23, Derrick Favors and Alec Burks for #1 and Jarrett Jack.

I see posters on realgm and RCF throwing around the idea that the picks from Utah would then be added in a package for Kevin Love(and Kevin Martin).

Assuming that Tristan and Dion are in the package to Minny...

Kyrie
Burks
Gee
Love
Favors

Anyone think this would entice you know who to replace Gee at the 3?

Rumors at this time of the NBA offseason are ridiculous but at the same time, awesome.
Jun 23, 2014 11:35pm
lhslep134's avatar

lhslep134

why so serious?

9,774 posts
Jun 23, 2014 11:53 PM
Any deal we're working on won't be leaked to media.
Jun 23, 2014 11:53pm
mucalum49's avatar

mucalum49

Senior Member

1,639 posts
Jun 24, 2014 8:17 AM
sportswizuhrd;1629277 wrote:Jazz beat writer is saying that the team is trying their hand at getting the #1 pick from the Cavs.

#5, #23, Derrick Favors and Alec Burks for #1 and Jarrett Jack.

I see posters on realgm and RCF throwing around the idea that the picks from Utah would then be added in a package for Kevin Love(and Kevin Martin).

Assuming that Tristan and Dion are in the package to Minny...

Kyrie
Burks
Gee
Love
Favors

Anyone think this would entice you know who to replace Gee at the 3?

Rumors at this time of the NBA offseason are ridiculous but at the same time, awesome.
Someone posted the same on RCF and said after all the moves listed above we'd still have $26M in cap space. Enough to sign LBJ to the max we can offer plus $6M for any ring chasers that might follow.

I really like Dion and think the potential is there so I'd be disappointed to see him leave. But he and Burks have comparable stats with Burks a slightly better PER and TS% if you look at advanced stats. Doesn't seem like we'd see too much of a drop off while adding assets to try and lure Love/LBJ. Favors signed a 4yr/$49M contract about to start so that's kind of a red flag with the trade. But his defensive ability would compliment Love in the front court pretty well.
Jun 24, 2014 8:17am
lhslep134's avatar

lhslep134

why so serious?

9,774 posts
Jun 24, 2014 11:42 AM
Favors isn't a world beater, but he's better than what those on RCF are giving him credit for. I don't see the point in arguing though since, IMO, trade isn't happening (at least in THAT form).
Jun 24, 2014 11:42am
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Jun 24, 2014 11:51 AM
Kevin Love is about the only player worth the #1 pick and that's only if he signs a long term deal with the Cavs. Wiggins will still be the pick I think.
Jun 24, 2014 11:51am
F

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

6,239 posts
Jun 24, 2014 12:28 PM
sleeper;1629360 wrote:Kevin Love is about the only player worth the #1 pick and that's only if he signs a long term deal with the Cavs. Wiggins will still be the pick I think.
Yeah, I agree. I'm certainly not interested in more picks when some of their more recent ones have been head-scratchers.
Jun 24, 2014 12:28pm
SportsAndLady's avatar

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

35,632 posts
Jun 24, 2014 12:35 PM
Lebron will join love in golden state and play with curry. Damnit
Jun 24, 2014 12:35pm
F

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

6,239 posts
Jun 24, 2014 12:38 PM
You guys are going to look ridiculous when he joins THE PISTONS!!!!!!!!
Jun 24, 2014 12:38pm
SportsAndLady's avatar

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

35,632 posts
Jun 24, 2014 12:42 PM
friendfromlowry;1629381 wrote:You guys are going to look ridiculous when he joins THE PISTONS!!!!!!!!
Honestly he should.

/classy'd
Jun 24, 2014 12:42pm
F

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

6,239 posts
Jun 24, 2014 12:45 PM
SportsAndLady;1629385 wrote:Honestly he should.

/classy'd
More like "dude hahah that roster would at least be a lock for the finals tho"
Jun 24, 2014 12:45pm
like_that's avatar

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

26,625 posts
Jun 24, 2014 3:27 PM
friendfromlowry;1629386 wrote:More like "dude hahah that roster would at least be a lock for the finals tho"
Reps when I can.
Jun 24, 2014 3:27pm
robj55's avatar

robj55

Senior Member

9,511 posts
Jun 24, 2014 6:36 PM
Was talking to my friend who plays overseas earlier, he said something crazy like Blatt's team had a high scorer of 9 ppg or so. He saif he is very disciplinary and role oriented, every one on the team contributes in some way or the other, everyone has a role.
Jun 24, 2014 6:36pm
SportsAndLady's avatar

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

35,632 posts
Jun 24, 2014 7:10 PM
robj55;1629530 wrote:Was talking to my friend who plays overseas earlier, he said something crazy like Blatt's team had a high scorer of 9 ppg or so. He saif he is very disciplinary and role oriented, every one on the team contributes in some way or the other, everyone has a role.
Championship
Jun 24, 2014 7:10pm
robj55's avatar

robj55

Senior Member

9,511 posts
Jun 24, 2014 7:16 PM
SportsAndLady;1629541 wrote:Championship
Yeah just thought that was interesting, 9 ppg for your highest scorer? Says team in every way.
Jun 24, 2014 7:16pm
SportsAndLady's avatar

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

35,632 posts
Jun 24, 2014 7:18 PM
robj55;1629543 wrote:Yeah just thought that was interesting, 9 ppg for your highest scorer? Says team in every way.
I mean it's a different game overseas. That obviously won't fly in the NBA. So your post didn't really excite me.
Jun 24, 2014 7:18pm
Laley23's avatar

Laley23

GOAT

29,506 posts
Jun 24, 2014 7:22 PM
Point remains, as scoring was very even. But I just looked at their stats, 2 players averaged over 11ppg.
Jun 24, 2014 7:22pm
robj55's avatar

robj55

Senior Member

9,511 posts
Jun 24, 2014 9:23 PM
SportsAndLady;1629545 wrote:I mean it's a different game overseas. That obviously won't fly in the NBA. So your post didn't really excite me.
Oh no I get that, a lot of stars over there play only 20-25 minutes a game. Will be interesting to see if he can get everyone to buy into the team first concepts though and if he is able to be a disciplinarian like he was.
Jun 24, 2014 9:23pm
robj55's avatar

robj55

Senior Member

9,511 posts
Jun 24, 2014 9:23 PM
Laley23;1629546 wrote:Point remains, as scoring was very even. But I just looked at their stats, 2 players averaged over 11ppg.
Alright yeah he wasn't sure he just knew they were extremely balanced and well coached.
Jun 24, 2014 9:23pm
Pick6's avatar

Pick6

A USA American

14,946 posts
Jun 24, 2014 9:30 PM
robj55;1629571 wrote:Oh no I get that, a lot of stars over there play only 20-25 minutes a game. Will be interesting to see if he can get everyone to buy into the team first concepts though and if he is able to be a disciplinarian like he was.
If he can't get certain players to buy in, get rid of them.
Jun 24, 2014 9:30pm
robj55's avatar

robj55

Senior Member

9,511 posts
Jun 24, 2014 9:32 PM
Pick6;1629573 wrote:If he can't get certain players to buy in, get rid of them.
Even your best players?
Jun 24, 2014 9:32pm
Pick6's avatar

Pick6

A USA American

14,946 posts
Jun 24, 2014 10:34 PM
robj55;1629574 wrote:Even your best players?
Yep. Anyone who doesn't buy into the system and culture the coach is trying to implement, should be shown the door. You can't win with people not willing to play team ball. These guys are all young and haven't "earned" anything, not even Kyrie.
Jun 24, 2014 10:34pm
robj55's avatar

robj55

Senior Member

9,511 posts
Jun 24, 2014 10:40 PM
Pick6;1629628 wrote:Yep. Anyone who doesn't buy into the system and culture the coach is trying to implement, should be shown the door. You can't win with people not willing to play team ball. These guys are all young and haven't "earned" anything, not even Kyrie.
Interesting point of view. Not saying you're wrong but weird to think a newly hired coach with zero NBA experience would have that type of clout.
Jun 24, 2014 10:40pm
B

BR1986FB

Senior Member

24,104 posts
Jun 25, 2014 7:52 AM
robj55;1629530 wrote:Was talking to my friend who plays overseas earlier, he said something crazy like Blatt's team had a high scorer of 9 ppg or so. He saif he is very disciplinary and role oriented, every one on the team contributes in some way or the other, everyone has a role.
Local radio station has interviewed 3 different former players of Blatt, all point guards. They all rave about him and feel his style will translate well to the NBA. He runs an NBA style system, according to them and it's a very point guard driven offense. If Kyrie can't have a breakout year in this system, he probably won't have one.
Jun 25, 2014 7:52am