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Jun 20, 2014 10:18 AM
sleeper;1628244 wrote:I like the Blatt coaching pick. I also want Wiggins. I wouldn't mind Parker either but I think Wiggins is a Kevin Durant type player who can be a game changer.

If Bennett can turn into a solid starter this year, the core of Irving, Waiters, Wiggins, Bennett will be too strong.

I agree. I honestly think the pick depends on what they think they can get from AB. If they think theyre going to get a guy who can scored from the PF position this year, they should take Wiggans, as he is a better defender, and having 3 solid scorers will allow him to grow into things. If they think AB is going to play like last year, they should take Parker, to take some of the pressure off AB, and give us a solid 2nd-3rd scoring option.


either way, we win.
Jun 20, 2014 10:18am
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Jun 20, 2014 10:19 AM
Wiggins train now as well with embiids injury.
Jun 20, 2014 10:19am
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Jun 20, 2014 11:32 AM
Wiggins definitely has the highest upside of anyone in this draft. His athletic ability is off the charts. I see him as a bigger game changer than anyone in this draft.
Jun 20, 2014 11:32am
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Jun 20, 2014 11:41 AM
Plus he plays fucking def, unlike Parker who looks immune to it. Don't care if he scores 20 PTs a game. So did mcgrady and Melo. None of then won shit in the NBA.
Jun 20, 2014 11:41am
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Jun 20, 2014 11:43 AM
Commander of Awesome;1628266 wrote:Plus he plays fucking def, unlike Parker who looks immune to it. Don't care if he scores 20 PTs a game. So did mcgrady and Melo. None of then won shit in the NBA.
Wiggins will step in(wherever he goes) and immediately be the best defender on the team. He is and will be THAT good.
Jun 20, 2014 11:43am
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Jun 20, 2014 11:49 AM
I really hope the cavs don't take parker. They'd get shredded so badly on defense.
Jun 20, 2014 11:49am
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Jun 20, 2014 12:55 PM
wildcats20;1628268 wrote:Wiggins will step in(wherever he goes) and immediately be the best defender on the team. He is and will be THAT good.
Yep, big reason I want him over Parker. I really wish ppl stressed def as much as scoring early. Coaches should emphasis the amount of pts scored on them more, to embarrass them. One of the only ways to change the mentality IMO.

It's so frustrating watching guys like Irving, Melo, James Harden, Blake Griffin get applauded and accolades while they're a MAJOR liability on defense. Can't be great playing one side of basketball. I like Irving and glad he's a cav, but he's far from a superstar awesome player IMO. PLayers like Conley who are excellent on both ends should get more recognition.
Jun 20, 2014 12:55pm
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Jun 20, 2014 12:59 PM
Commander of Awesome;1628289 wrote:Yep, big reason I want him over Parker. I really wish ppl stressed def as much as scoring early. Coaches should emphasis the amount of pts scored on them more, to embarrass them. One of the only ways to change the mentality IMO.

It's so frustrating watching guys like Irving, Melo, James Harden, Blake Griffin get applauded and accolades while they're a MAJOR liability on defense. Can't be great playing one side of basketball. I like Irving and glad he's a cav, but he's far from a superstar awesome player IMO. PLayers like Conley who are excellent on both ends should get more recognition.
Agreed. I love Mike Conley! Wish he'd come to the Cavs too!
Jun 20, 2014 12:59pm
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Jun 20, 2014 1:00 PM
Blake had improved significantly on defense, but your spot on with melo and harden.
Jun 20, 2014 1:00pm
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Jun 20, 2014 1:06 PM
As much as I hate Griffin(and it's a lot), his game has vastly improved. Still not even a good defender, but it's improved. And his offense is much more than just jumping over people.

Still don't want him on my team though.
Jun 20, 2014 1:06pm
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Jun 20, 2014 1:09 PM
Plain Dealer says Blatt agreed to the deal
Jun 20, 2014 1:09pm
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Jun 20, 2014 1:32 PM
wildcats20;1628296 wrote:Plain Dealer says Blatt agreed to the deal

He did . Sources are saynig 4 years for around $20 mil. I'm pumped.
Jun 20, 2014 1:32pm
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Jun 20, 2014 1:34 PM
I don't think there's any truth to this and I'm giving it 0 credibility. That being said, since we're talking rumors, I feel obligated to post this:

My friend from Orange knows some of Lebron's supposed rich "Orange Jew Crew" (I guess Goldhammer referenced them last week? whatever, sports talk radio doesn't really scream credibility anyways). He's as skeptical as I am, and as you are, about the legitimacy of what he sent me in texts this morning:

"yesterday my friend said that Lebron wants to come back, wants Melo in CLE, and wanted Blatt as coach" He also said that to get Melo would probably involve a sign and trade for #1.

Again, I don't believe this for a second, but I find it somewhat relevant.
Jun 20, 2014 1:34pm
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Jun 20, 2014 1:37 PM
lhslep134;1628306 wrote:I don't think there's any truth to this and I'm giving it 0 credibility. That being said, since we're talking rumors, I feel obligated to post this:

My friend from Orange knows some of Lebron's supposed rich "Orange Jew Crew" (I guess Goldhammer referenced them last week? whatever, sports talk radio doesn't really scream credibility anyways). He's as skeptical as I am, and as you are, about the legitimacy of what he sent me in texts this morning:

"yesterday my friend said that Lebron wants to come back, wants Melo in CLE, and wanted Blatt as coach" He also said that to get Melo would probably involve a sign and trade for #1.

Again, I don't believe this for a second, but I find it somewhat relevant.
It may be bullshit (your source), who knows. But I know for an 100% fact that Maverick has put feelers out in Cleveland about a potential return. He told them to draft Parker (which we'll see if that happens) because Lebron wants to transition into a PF as he gets older, and that Lebron is def. considering coming back. He did not say anything about a coach, nor when the timetable would be.


Source - Maverick to my dad and my dad's boss.
Jun 20, 2014 1:37pm
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Jun 20, 2014 1:40 PM
ohiobucks1;1628311 wrote:It may be bullshit (your source), who knows. But I know for an 100% fact that Maverick has put feelers out in Cleveland about a potential return. He told them to draft Parker (which we'll see if that happens) because Lebron wants to transition into a PF as he gets older, and that Lebron is def. considering coming back. He did not say anything about a coach, nor when the timetable would be.


Source - Maverick to my dad and my dad's boss.

I'm assuming it's 100% bullshit lol.
Jun 20, 2014 1:40pm
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Jun 20, 2014 1:42 PM
Yeah it's bullshit. Lebron isn't coming.
Jun 20, 2014 1:42pm
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Jun 20, 2014 1:43 PM
If he's transitioning to a PF, he should want Wiggins, an athletic wing player that plays defense. Not parker, a ball hog on offense with zero clue of what defense even looks like.
Jun 20, 2014 1:43pm
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Jun 20, 2014 1:45 PM
Rumor is we could add Vinny Del Negro to Blatt's staff. That could help with the transition and dealing with NBA players.
Jun 20, 2014 1:45pm
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Jun 20, 2014 1:46 PM
Commander of Awesome;1628326 wrote:If he's transitioning to a PF, he should want Wiggins, an athletic wing player that plays defense. Not parker, a ball hog on offense with zero clue of what defense even looks like.
Agreed. Wiggins makes more sense for a PF oriented Lebron.
Jun 20, 2014 1:46pm
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Jun 20, 2014 1:53 PM
Since we're throwing out rumors that are most likely NOT true, I know it's not basketball related but I heard a rumor that Roethlisberger really DIDN'T rape those girls. Probably not true but wanted to throw it out there. ;)
Jun 20, 2014 1:53pm
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Jun 20, 2014 2:03 PM
BR1986FB;1628339 wrote:Since we're throwing out rumors that are most likely NOT true, I know it's not basketball related but I heard a rumor that Roethlisberger really DIDN'T rape those girls. Probably not true but wanted to throw it out there. ;)

...and OJ supporters are STILL looking for the murderer!!!
Jun 20, 2014 2:03pm
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Jun 20, 2014 2:20 PM
Not sure why we always mock or get into "just stop LBJ isn't coming back" when ohiobucks1 posts something regarding LBJ that came from the Maverick crew. Whether it happens or not, just objective from what seems to be like a decent source (his dad).
Jun 20, 2014 2:20pm
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Jun 20, 2014 2:22 PM
mucalum49;1628357 wrote:Not sure why we always mock or get into "just stop LBJ isn't coming back" when ohiobucks1 posts something regarding LBJ that came from the Maverick crew. Whether it happens or not, just objective from what seems to be like a decent source (his dad).
I don't really question his sources. They may be very good. I just don't see LBJ returning and, frankly, I don't want him back.
Jun 20, 2014 2:22pm
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Jun 20, 2014 2:22 PM
mucalum49;1628357 wrote:Not sure why we always mock or get into "just stop LBJ isn't coming back" when ohiobucks1 posts something regarding LBJ that came from the Maverick crew. Whether it happens or not, just objective from what seems to be like a decent source (his dad).
I put it up there with bill cowhers house in strongsville.
Jun 20, 2014 2:22pm
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Jun 20, 2014 2:55 PM
BR1986FB;1628359 wrote:I don't really question his sources. They may be very good. I just don't see LBJ returning and, frankly, I don't want him back.
I don't think he does but I would LOVE to have him again. It is the ONLY way this team will compete for a championship any time soon.
Jun 20, 2014 2:55pm