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Mar 25, 2014 8:28 PM
Malaysians and Chinese got a lot more family to make up for what they lost.
Mar 25, 2014 8:28pm
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Mar 25, 2014 8:49 PM
gut;1596323 wrote:It's past time for the authorities to basically tell them they have a better shot of winning the lottery than finding survivors.
Malaysian Air should've included that in its text message to the families.

While at some point these families need to move on and begin the grieving process, I believe it should have happened in a more appropriate manner. Let's be real here. Malaysian Parliament made the announcement that all lives were lost not out of human decency to the families, but to get the families out of Kuala Lumpur and, more importantly, out of the media spotlight. Because the longer those families are there, the worse it looks for Malaysia.

Note I agree that everyone is probably dead.
Mar 25, 2014 8:49pm
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Mar 26, 2014 1:09 PM
Malaysians report they have found 123 new objects floating in search area. Some analysts are saying it now looks like a flock of seagulls. Lol at Malaysia.

It very well could be plane parts (another explanation is drifting trash, as that part of the Indian is notorious for being a "water garbage dump", but this whole thing is an absolute nightmare for Malaysia. It's no wonder they are in a race against time to get this out of the world spotlight. Either one of their esteemed airman nefariously took the plane on a joy ride to the middle of the ocean to kill everyone on board, or there was a major failure in national security and one of their 777s was hijacked.
Mar 26, 2014 1:09pm
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Mar 26, 2014 1:12 PM
reclegend22;1596633 wrote:Malaysians report they have found 123 new objects floating in search area. Some analysts are saying it now looks like a flock of seagulls. Lol at Malaysia.

It very well could be plane parts (another explanation is drifting trash, as that part of the Indian is notorious for being a "water garbage dump", but this whole thing is an absolute nightmare for Malaysia. It's no wonder they are in a race against time to get this out of the world spotlight. Either one of their esteemed airman nefariously took the plane on a joy ride to the middle of the ocean to kill everyone on board, or there was a major failure in national security and one of their 777s was hijacked.
That is sad. Never was a fan but I didnt know they had died.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1751a_flock-of-seagulls-i-ran-so-far-away_music
Mar 26, 2014 1:12pm
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Mar 26, 2014 4:50 PM
ccrunner609;1596726 wrote:The only way to all of a sudden find that is if whoever had. That palne just now crashed it out there
did you just have a stroke?
Mar 26, 2014 4:50pm
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Mar 26, 2014 5:01 PM
ccrunner609;1596726 wrote:So now all of a sudden 123 pieces of debris shows up? I call BS. The only way to all of a sudden find that is if whoever had. That palne just now crashed it out there
Dafuq?
Mar 26, 2014 5:01pm
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Mar 26, 2014 5:09 PM
ccrunner609;1596726 wrote:So now all of a sudden 123 pieces of debris shows up? I call BS. The only way to all of a sudden find that is if whoever had. That palne just now crashed it out there
Mohican00;1596728 wrote:did you just have a stroke?
rmolin73;1596731 wrote:Dafuq?
lol, wtf is he talking about???
Mar 26, 2014 5:09pm
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Mar 26, 2014 5:09 PM
ccrunner609;1596726 wrote:So now all of a sudden 123 pieces of debris shows up? I call BS. The only way to all of a sudden find that is if whoever had. That palne just now crashed it out there
No matter where the plane crashed, it makes perfect sense that lots of the debris would be in the same place, even now.
Mar 26, 2014 5:09pm
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Mar 26, 2014 6:12 PM
queencitybuckeye;1596733 wrote:No matter where the plane crashed, it makes perfect sense that lots of the debris would be in the same place, even now.
Not sure about the same place. That part of the Indian is especially treacherous water, some of the most dangerous waters of anywhere on the planet. With no land masses within several thousand miles of the center of the Indian, the unobstructed trade winds can result in waves of 50 feet or higher on an average day, with roaring currents so turbulent that not even marine life dares to venture into that part of the sea (not sure if that's true).

If the plane really did go down in the ocean, the debris is probably nowhere near the initial crash site at this point.
Mar 26, 2014 6:12pm
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Mar 26, 2014 6:39 PM
reclegend22;1596750 wrote:Not sure about the same place. That part of the Indian is especially treacherous water, some of the most dangerous waters of anywhere on the planet. With no land masses within several thousand miles of the center of the Indian, the unobstructed trade winds can result in waves of 50 feet or higher on an average day, with roaring currents so turbulent that not even marine life dares to venture into that part of the sea (not sure if that's true).

If the plane really did go down in the ocean, the debris is probably nowhere near the initial crash site at this point.
He is saying the debris would be together, in the same place. As in, it has obviously gone away from the crash, but the winds and current have kept the debris together.
Mar 26, 2014 6:39pm
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Mar 26, 2014 6:42 PM
This thread is a huge collection of stupidity.
Mar 26, 2014 6:42pm
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Mar 26, 2014 6:49 PM
dlazz;1596760 wrote:This thread is a huge collection of stupidity.
and you're on it .... Boom
Mar 26, 2014 6:49pm
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Mar 26, 2014 6:54 PM
Laley23;1596758 wrote:He is saying the debris would be together, in the same place. As in, it has obviously gone away from the crash, but the winds and current have kept the debris together.
I should have read harder. Thanks.
Mar 26, 2014 6:54pm
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Mar 26, 2014 7:20 PM
dlazz;1596760 wrote:This thread is a huge collection of stupidity.

Ya' think?
Mar 26, 2014 7:20pm
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MontyBrunswick

Mar 26, 2014 7:21 PM
Belly35;1596763 wrote:and you're on it .... Boom
Good one, Belly.
Mar 26, 2014 7:21pm
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Mar 26, 2014 8:38 PM
I like this thread.

Hope this helps.
Mar 26, 2014 8:38pm
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friendfromlowry

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Mar 26, 2014 11:41 PM
I swear for the past nine days all I've heard is "Debris possibly spotted in Indian ocean; boats/planes en route."
Mar 26, 2014 11:41pm
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Mar 27, 2014 5:58 AM
Laley23;1596758 wrote:He is saying the debris would be together, in the same place. As in, it has obviously gone away from the crash, but the winds and current have kept the debris together.
Thanks for saying it correctly. My writing is usually more clear than my prior post.

reclegend22;1596764 wrote:I should have read harder. Thanks.
I see how what I said could be interpreted as you did. I'm the one who caused the confusion. It was meant to answer ccrunner (a mistake, I know) who seemed to indicate that it was strange that so many pieces of the debris would be together. If the plane crash in the water, there would be thousands of pieces floating. To find a hundred or more together would be expected.
Mar 27, 2014 5:58am
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gut

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Mar 27, 2014 8:51 AM
It seems like now that they've focused dozens of satellites on a narrowed area of maybe 1000sq miles that they are finding a lot of potential debris.

The question is when are they actually going to get their hands on any of the debris they've pegged with satellites? Doesn't seem like they've even been able to spot any with planes. Even with a couple days lag they have a pretty good idea where to look for debris found in a satellite photo
Mar 27, 2014 8:51am
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Gblock

Mar 27, 2014 8:58 AM
really just shows how little w know about the ocean and whats in it...
Mar 27, 2014 8:58am
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Mar 27, 2014 9:41 AM
Why is it shocking that they are focused on the correct area and now finding debris? For three weeks they were looking in the wrong areas.
Mar 27, 2014 9:41am
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Mar 27, 2014 10:13 AM
reclegend22;1596633 wrote:Malaysians report they have found 123 new objects floating in search area. Some analysts are saying it now looks like a flock of seagulls. Lol at Malaysia.

It very well could be plane parts (another explanation is drifting trash, as that part of the Indian is notorious for being a "water garbage dump", but this whole thing is an absolute nightmare for Malaysia. It's no wonder they are in a race against time to get this out of the world spotlight. Either one of their esteemed airman nefariously took the plane on a joy ride to the middle of the ocean to kill everyone on board, or there was a major failure in national security and one of their 777s was hijacked.
I am not a bird expert, and its been a long time since I woulda been more than 5 miles offshore in the ocean, but how far would birds be flying out into the ocean without landing?

I can see how this search is very tough. It takes HOURS for planes to get there, and can only stay there for 2 hours before leaving, and the ocean is nasty out there.

I would not be surprised if they never find the stuff they really need.
Mar 27, 2014 10:13am
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Mar 27, 2014 12:05 PM
thavoice;1596900 wrote:I am not a bird expert, and its been a long time since I woulda been more than 5 miles offshore in the ocean, but how far would birds be flying out into the ocean without landing?

I can see how this search is very tough. It takes HOURS for planes to get there, and can only stay there for 2 hours before leaving, and the ocean is nasty out there.

I would not be surprised if they never find the stuff they really need.
That's what I wondered as well. Also no bird expert, but I'm not sure how many trans-oceanic flights seagulls often go on. This was something a CNN expert said, so I probably should've clarified. But it was hilarious at the time considering how wrong the Malaysians have been about everything since the beginning.
Mar 27, 2014 12:05pm