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                                Feb 26, 2014 12:49pm
                            
                        
                                I have to put this in Serious Business b/c this topic is srz bznz.  The MAC wants things catered to them, as always... 
http://www.dailystandard.com/archive/2014-02-25/stories/23349/looking-for-a-change
                        http://www.dailystandard.com/archive/2014-02-25/stories/23349/looking-for-a-change
                                        
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                        vdubb96
                                                                            
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                                Feb 26, 2014 1:05pm
                            
                        Don't hate.ernest_t_bass;1584872 wrote:I have to put this in Serious Business b/c this topic is srz bznz. The MAC wants things catered to them, as always...
http://www.dailystandard.com/archive/2014-02-25/stories/23349/looking-for-a-change
ernest_t_bass
                                                                            
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                                Feb 26, 2014 1:08pm
                            
                        vdubb96;1584878 wrote:Don't hate.
LOL. No hate here. I envy the MAC, and all their success, but that article (long read) is FULL of QQ.
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                                Feb 26, 2014 1:27pm
                            
                        
                                How is asking that things be done in this part of the state the same as the rest of the state "wanting things catered to them"?
                            
                        ernest_t_bass
                                                                            
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                                Feb 26, 2014 1:30pm
                            
                        Did you read the article? The whole article? They are crying to the media, which is retarded, and nothing but QQ.Wally;1584887 wrote:How is asking that things be done in this part of the state the same as the rest of the state "wanting things catered to them"?
Now, I'm ALL for change, and I'm ALL for super sectional, but more-so for a slightly different reason, not just so my "conference" does better, or performs better. Here are my thoughts:
I say YES, have a super sectional, but it would be tough to do in all divisions, because of the widespread distance between teams (in NW Ohio). Would be a lot easier in D3 and D4. The areas along the 3C's high way (I-71) can do this b/c there are so many schools.
Example of making it work... combine the Bryan and Paulding D4 sectional. No reason that crap teams at Bryan should be celebrating by CUTTING DOWN THE FREAKING NET for beating other crap teams.
I grew up at a school that played in the Piqua super sectional, and even then, you didn't cut down the nets unless you won at Vandalia. It sickens me that many of these teams celebrate mediocrity by cutting down the nets after, often times, only winning one damn game. Big deal.
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                                Feb 26, 2014 1:42pm
                            
                        
                                I don't see it as "crying to the media" because the writer sought out the coaches opinions. That’s what he does. It's not like the coaches called up the Daily Standard and asked the article to be written.
                            
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                                Feb 26, 2014 2:36pm
                            
                        If a writer asks a coach about the officials, does that open the door for the coach to complain and berate officials? You know... it's the writer's fault.Wally;1584893 wrote:I don't see it as "crying to the media" because the writer sought out the coaches opinions. That’s what he does. It's not like the coaches called up the Daily Standard and asked the article to be written.
                                        
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                                Feb 26, 2014 2:46pm
                            
                        
                                They aren't berating anybody.
                            
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                                Feb 26, 2014 2:49pm
                            
                        Why I may have been implied that they were berating NW District, I'm not saying they are. Only in my example of officials.Wally;1584903 wrote:They aren't berating anybody.
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                                Feb 26, 2014 3:29pm
                            
                        
                                A lot of the complaining/concern comes from the MAC having tougher matchups against themselves in the early stages of tourneys and then by the time they get to regionals/state the games are not as competitive.  The WBL has always complained about this as well in bball.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Feb 26, 2014 3:32pm
                            
                        
                                Who cares? Next year it will be the same shit. 4-12 after three years chud will be fired along with banner and Lombardi then we will switch back to the 4-3.
                            
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                                Feb 26, 2014 3:51pm
                            
                        That goes without sayingdlazz;1584918 wrote:Who cares? Next year it will be the same shit. 4-12 after three years chud will be fired along with banner and Lombardi then we will switch back to the 4-3.
                                        
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                                Feb 26, 2014 3:58pm
                            
                        dlazz;1584918 wrote:Who cares? Next year it will be the same shit. 4-12 after three years chud will be fired along with banner and Lombardi then we will switch back to the 4-3.
vdubb96;1584934 wrote:That goes without saying
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                                Feb 26, 2014 6:01pm
                            
                        
                                Everyone should get a trophy.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Feb 27, 2014 10:24am
                            
                        Eh.ernest_t_bass;1584872 wrote:I have to put this in Serious Business b/c this topic is srz bznz. The MAC wants things catered to them, as always...
http://www.dailystandard.com/archive/2014-02-25/stories/23349/looking-for-a-change
I dont follow hoops much but if other districts are doing it then why not. Yeah, it sucks to get beat early in the tournament trail by a league foe when you are a team that is very, very good and could make it a long way, but shit happens. WHat do you expect when you are facing a league team that isnt very far away? Just the nature of a tournament setup.
                                        
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                                Feb 27, 2014 10:27am
                            
                        A writer also can be selective to what he puts in. If a coach says bad stuff about officials he doesnt have to put it in his article. It isnt like if he does that people will flock to the newsstands to buy the small town newspaper.ernest_t_bass;1584900 wrote:If a writer asks a coach about the officials, does that open the door for the coach to complain and berate officials? You know... it's the writer's fault.
A couple of times I made some comments after a game about referee's, and our team, that I regretted and the writer did not put in the paper. I did give him a call and thank him about it.
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                                Feb 27, 2014 10:40am
                            
                        I'm ALL FOR a super sectional, but for different reasons. This article was FULL of QQ. I want a super sectional so winning a "sectional" actually means something.thavoice;1585205 wrote:Eh.
I dont follow hoops much but if other districts are doing it then why not. Yeah, it sucks to get beat early in the tournament trail by a league foe when you are a team that is very, very good and could make it a long way, but shit happens. WHat do you expect when you are facing a league team that isnt very far away? Just the nature of a tournament setup.
                                        
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                                Feb 27, 2014 10:44am
                            
                        Yeah, it was a bunch of whining, no doubt. I guess I never thought of winning a sectional title a big deal.ernest_t_bass;1585213 wrote:I'm ALL FOR a super sectional, but for different reasons. This article was FULL of QQ. I want a super sectional so winning a "sectional" actually means something.
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                                Feb 27, 2014 10:52am
                            
                        That's just it... in the south, you don't cut nets until District (at least that's the way it used to be), and that's after playing in a super sectional. I played in the Piqua sectional, where you had to go through the Shelby County League, who at the time did not play football, only basketball, and you had to win three games just to get out. Yeah, a sectional title was great, but you didn't celebrate by cutting down the nets. You went to Vandalia Butler HS for a one game district, and if you were fortunate (good) enough to win, you got to take home a piece of net!thavoice;1585216 wrote:Yeah, it was a bunch of whining, no doubt. I guess I never thought of winning a sectional title a big deal.
Seriously, in some shit sectionals in NW Ohio, you can play one game, against an AWFUL opponent, and you celebrate by cutting down the net? To me, the act of cutting down the net is sacred, and it is watered down by doing it after one measly win.
                                        
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                                Feb 27, 2014 10:54am
                            
                        ernest_t_bass;1585225 wrote:That's just it... in the south, you don't cut nets until District (at least that's the way it used to be), and that's after playing in a super sectional. I played in the Piqua sectional, where you had to go through the Shelby County League, who at the time did not play football, only basketball, and you had to win three games just to get out. Yeah, a sectional title was great, but you didn't celebrate by cutting down the nets. You went to Vandalia Butler HS for a one game district, and if you were fortunate (good) enough to win, you got to take home a piece of net!
Seriously, in some shit sectionals in NW Ohio, you can play one game, against an AWFUL opponent, and you celebrate by cutting down the net? To me, the act of cutting down the net is sacred, and it is watered down by doing it after one measly win.[/QUOTE]Now THAT is some QQing right there.
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                                Feb 27, 2014 10:55am
                            
                        LOL. AMEN!thavoice;1585228 wrote:Now THAT is some QQing right there.