Belly35
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 5:54am
                            
                        
                                Lights out for the incandescent light bulb as of Jan. 1, 2014
i have change some of my home light bulbs over the year but I have 200 60watt incandescent at the warehouse.... I think I will be still using incandescent for sometime
the power company contacted me about my warehouse and wanted to come in and give me an estimate on upgrading the warehouse lighting to a more efficient. One of my friends who also has a warehouse fell for the estimated offer. Bottom line 6000.00 buck and a lighting system that requires the EPA to change bulbs.... No thanks
                        i have change some of my home light bulbs over the year but I have 200 60watt incandescent at the warehouse.... I think I will be still using incandescent for sometime
the power company contacted me about my warehouse and wanted to come in and give me an estimate on upgrading the warehouse lighting to a more efficient. One of my friends who also has a warehouse fell for the estimated offer. Bottom line 6000.00 buck and a lighting system that requires the EPA to change bulbs.... No thanks
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                                Jan 2, 2014 7:04am
                            
                        
                                This makes me wonder... will the coal-fired power plant that supplies Belly's electricity be closed down before he uses up his cache of incandescent bulbs?
                            
                        Belly35
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 8:44am
                            
                        I get my power from AEPApple;1560655 wrote:This makes me wonder... will the coal-fired power plant that supplies Belly's electricity be closed down before he uses up his cache of incandescent bulbs?
At last count in my house I have 58 light bulb socket + / - I would estimate that about half are the newer type, basement, garage, work bench, attic, shed are still old incandesent. Maybe I replace in those area two or three bulbs per year.
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                                Jan 2, 2014 8:48am
                            
                        
                                What an excellent thread.
                            
                        Devils Advocate
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 9:17am
                            
                        
                                Well, It was.....
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                MontyBrunswick
                                                                    
                                Jan 2, 2014 9:46am
                            
                        
                                All of my lights have been changed from incandescent to the new ones. 
Hope this helps.
                        Hope this helps.
Devils Advocate
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 11:17am
                            
                        
                                I figured out what the ol man is REALLY doing with all of these bulbs
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                MontyBrunswick
                                                                    
                                Jan 2, 2014 11:32am
                            
                        It's amazing he can still fit light bulbs up his ass with his head so firmly up thereDevils Advocate;1560779 wrote:I figured out what the ol man is REALLY doing with all of these bulbs
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                                Jan 2, 2014 11:49am
                            
                        Mine are too (Sams Club had them really cheap when I moved) and my electric bill is quote low. Hope this also helps.dlazz;1560708 wrote:All of my lights have been changed from incandescent to the new ones.
Hope this helps.
                                        
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                                                                Jawbreaker
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 12:02pm
                            
                        LOL at a warehouse with 60 watt incandescent bulbs and the whole EPA joke. Both are foolish and uninformed.Belly35;1560648 wrote:Lights out for the incandescent light bulb as of Jan. 1, 2014
i have change some of my home light bulbs over the year but I have 200 60watt incandescent at the warehouse.... I think I will be still using incandescent for sometime
the power company contacted me about my warehouse and wanted to come in and give me an estimate on upgrading the warehouse lighting to a more efficient. One of my friends who also has a warehouse fell for the estimated offer. Bottom line 6000.00 buck and a lighting system that requires the EPA to change bulbs.... No thanks
                                        
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                                Jan 2, 2014 12:16pm
                            
                        Yeah, I'm pretty positive you're allowed to change your own damn CFLs Belly.Jawbreaker;1560793 wrote:LOL at a warehouse with 60 watt incandescent bulbs and the whole EPA joke. Both are foolish and uninformed.
ts1227
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 12:56pm
                            
                        
                                You could replace 200 incandescent 60 watt bulbs yourself for about $75
                            
                        Apple
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 1:02pm
                            
                        
                                Given the mercury content involved with the new bulbs, it wouldn't surprise me if there are special regulations regarding commercial use/replacement that might include the EPA or possibly OSHA.
                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 1:06pm
                            
                        I work at a company that recently upgraded most of the lighting....there are AEP rebates for doing the upgrades. We are a pretty good sized company so it was significant, not sure what your situation is.Belly35;1560648 wrote:Lights out for the incandescent light bulb as of Jan. 1, 2014
i have change some of my home light bulbs over the year but I have 200 60watt incandescent at the warehouse.... I think I will be still using incandescent for sometime
the power company contacted me about my warehouse and wanted to come in and give me an estimate on upgrading the warehouse lighting to a more efficient. One of my friends who also has a warehouse fell for the estimated offer. Bottom line 6000.00 buck and a lighting system that requires the EPA to change bulbs.... No thanks
                                        
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                                Jan 2, 2014 1:11pm
                            
                        There's regulations as far as how to recycle/dispose of them but there's absolutely nothing I've ever seen that says the EPA has to change your bulbs.Apple;1560818 wrote:Given the mercury content involved with the new bulbs, it wouldn't surprise me if there are special regulations regarding commercial use/replacement that might include the EPA or possibly OSHA.
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                                Jan 2, 2014 1:24pm
                            
                        
                                Lol once again belly starts a thread that makes no sense.
                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 1:32pm
                            
                        
                                At least he hasn't blamed Obama yet, it's coming I'm sure.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                Jawbreaker
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 1:33pm
                            
                        Blaming the EPA is just about the same.GoPens;1560842 wrote:At least he hasn't blamed Obama yet, it's coming I'm sure.
Belly35
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 1:42pm
                            
                        The 200 old style bulbs been here for years, we have florescent tube type lighting …wes_mantooth;1560823 wrote:I work at a company that recently upgraded most of the lighting....there are AEP rebates for doing the upgrades. We are a pretty good sized company so it was significant, not sure what your situation is.
My friend warehouse is about the same size as mine, so looking a $6000.00 and that is with the discount, rebate and tax break he said…
Like he said until his business has a better growth outlook, shows a better profit, increase in business and can get some of his staff back … $6000.00 is not going to happen anytime soon
                                        
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                                                                Jawbreaker
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 2:56pm
                            
                        I can understand that but if the payback is less than a year it is a no brainier.Belly35;1560849 wrote:The 200 old style bulbs been here for years, we have florescent tube type lighting …
My friend warehouse is about the same size as mine, so looking a $6000.00 and that is with the discount, rebate and tax break he said…
Like he said until his business has a better growth outlook, shows a better profit, increase in business and can get some of his staff back … $6000.00 is not going to happen anytime soon
Belly35
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 3:18pm
                            
                        I'm not sure of the pay back time frame, it could have been a five year projected program. But I can tell you this no matter what the pay back time peroid is .... Lighting is not a priority. I could think of about 20 other usage for the $6000.00 that could provide a higher pay back and future growth than lights...Jawbreaker;1560887 wrote:I can understand that but if the payback is less than a year it is a no brainier.
Problem is may smaller business don't have that $6000.00 nor do they want to finance for lighting.
Saving does not alway make a profit ...
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                                Jan 2, 2014 3:24pm
                            
                        Your president agrees.Belly35;1560902 wrote: Saving does not alway make a profit ...
Belly35
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 3:53pm
                            
                        Worthless spending waste profit and hinders prosperityDevils Advocate;1560906 wrote:Your president agrees.
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                                Jan 2, 2014 4:01pm
                            
                        wes_mantooth
                                                                            
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                                Jan 2, 2014 4:03pm
                            
                        Agreed. All our capital projects typically have to have at least a two year payback to be approvedJawbreaker;1560887 wrote:I can understand that but if the payback is less than a year it is a no brainier.