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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Nov 25, 2013 1:18pm
What jersey does he wear this coming season?
I don't think it will be a Reds one but I don't know where he ends up.
I don't think it will be a Reds one but I don't know where he ends up.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Nov 25, 2013 1:29pm
I agree. He's gone, but no idea where he ends up.
I'll guess the Tiggers.
I'll guess the Tiggers.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 25, 2013 1:31pm
Reds.
Time heals the butthurtedness that the club has from his comments saying they lied to him. They are going to look past those comments and realize that if they want to get to the WS they need him in the lineup with more additions. Get rid of him and that is ANOTHER big hole to fill and it isnt going to happen. Over 100 ribeyes last year and a great RISP shows he was one of the few guys who were clutch.
Choo is already gone and if the franchise things they can win this year without Choo AND Phillips ....they are going to end up muddling through with a sub .500 record.
Time heals the butthurtedness that the club has from his comments saying they lied to him. They are going to look past those comments and realize that if they want to get to the WS they need him in the lineup with more additions. Get rid of him and that is ANOTHER big hole to fill and it isnt going to happen. Over 100 ribeyes last year and a great RISP shows he was one of the few guys who were clutch.
Choo is already gone and if the franchise things they can win this year without Choo AND Phillips ....they are going to end up muddling through with a sub .500 record.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Nov 25, 2013 1:52pm
Tigers got Kinsler. Won't need BP. Texas is out as well since they have a nice young prospect coming up in the MI.justincredible;1542949 wrote:I agree. He's gone, but no idea where he ends up.
I'll guess the Tiggers.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Nov 25, 2013 1:53pm
If I had to guess someone other than the Reds, I say Atlanta.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 25, 2013 1:55pm
After they got Kinsler?justincredible;1542949 wrote:I agree. He's gone, but no idea where he ends up.
I'll guess the Tiggers.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Nov 25, 2013 2:50pm
Crap. I forgot about that trade. Disregard.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Nov 25, 2013 3:02pm
Dodgers
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Nov 25, 2013 3:10pm
Yankees
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 25, 2013 3:17pm
Hopefully the reds
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Nov 25, 2013 3:33pm
Reunion with the Indians?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 25, 2013 3:35pm
Lol....no way.ohiobucks1;1543059 wrote:Reunion with the Indians?
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Nov 25, 2013 3:36pm
wes_mantooth;1543060 wrote:Lol....no way.
Haha fair enough, were all #kipnisses anyways. I still think he stays a red.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 25, 2013 3:42pm
Anywhere but Cincy, I hope.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Nov 25, 2013 4:44pm
If we lose Choo and BP and don't pick up any big time players this team won't sniff the playoffs.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 25, 2013 4:49pm
Well...he probably despises the tribe, they destroyed him back in the day. He should stay put, cincy gave him a shot when I doubt anyone else would. Not that loyalty means anything to these selfish athletes....ohiobucks1;1543062 wrote:Haha fair enough, were all #kipnisses anyways. I still think he stays a red.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 25, 2013 4:49pm
They won't lose both and not replace one of them with an equal.Rotinaj;1543088 wrote:If we lose Choo and BP and don't pick up any big time players this team won't sniff the playoffs.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 25, 2013 9:28pm
Reds. He's the emotional leader of the team, basically what Hunter is to the Tigers which makes him so valuable in addition to his terrific play. Besides the Tigers are gonna probably get Choo anyways so cannot lose both in Cincy
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 25, 2013 9:42pm
Have you seen their lineup?Classyposter58;1543218 wrote:Reds. He's the emotional leader of the team, basically what Hunter is to the Tigers which makes him so valuable in addition to his terrific play. Besides the Tigers are gonna probably get Choo anyways so cannot lose both in Cincy
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 25, 2013 9:58pm
Not sure Phillips wasn't one of the clubhouse problems this past season. Dusty obviously had no control over him, as seen with the C Trent situation.Classyposter58;1543218 wrote:Reds. He's the emotional leader of the team, basically what Hunter is to the Tigers which makes him so valuable in addition to his terrific play. Besides the Tigers are gonna probably get Choo anyways so cannot lose both in Cincy
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 25, 2013 10:01pm
I agree 0% that he was the emotional leader. For years Hunter was the comparison....but Hunter grew up.Classyposter58;1543218 wrote:Reds. He's the emotional leader of the team, basically what Hunter is to the Tigers which makes him so valuable in addition to his terrific play. Besides the Tigers are gonna probably get Choo anyways so cannot lose both in Cincy
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 26, 2013 1:02am
If Phillips is a Red, it's because they didn't get what they wanted for him. They have made it quite clear (and the rumors have been swirling about this for a month) that he' available.
So, he might end up back in Cincinnati, things might turn out fine, etc...but it won't necessarily be because the Reds executed their off-season "plan" to perfection.
So, he might end up back in Cincinnati, things might turn out fine, etc...but it won't necessarily be because the Reds executed their off-season "plan" to perfection.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 26, 2013 10:58am
That seems to be what has been coming out. Ownership isnt happy he called them liars.se-alum;1543232 wrote:Not sure Phillips wasn't one of the clubhouse problems this past season. Dusty obviously had no control over him, as seen with the C Trent situation.
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slcoach
Posts: 421
Nov 26, 2013 2:40pm
As long as he is not in a Reds jersey I will be fine. He is going downhill in a hurry! Don't give me crap about RBI's...Anyone would have driven in runs with Choo (4th in OBP in MLB) and Votto (2nd) hitting in front of them. I believe I seen where he lead the league in plate appearances with runners on base. His OPS was barely over .700 (.706-that was the worst in the majors by .041 for anyone that drove in 100+ runs). His legs seem to be going. (5 stolen bases - 1 less than Todd Frasier). His WAR was 1.6 - lowest since his first full season. His defensive metrics are getting worse.
If someone will pay him, the Reds have to unload him.
If someone will pay him, the Reds have to unload him.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 26, 2013 2:54pm
You do realize he hit .338 with RISP right which was better than Votto and I think everyone else?slcoach;1543613 wrote:As long as he is not in a Reds jersey I will be fine. He is going downhill in a hurry! Don't give me crap about RBI's...Anyone would have driven in runs with Choo (4th in OBP in MLB) and Votto (2nd) hitting in front of them. I believe I seen where he lead the league in plate appearances with runners on base. His OPS was barely over .700 (.706-that was the worst in the majors by .041 for anyone that drove in 100+ runs). His legs seem to be going. (5 stolen bases - 1 less than Todd Frasier). His WAR was 1.6 - lowest since his first full season. His defensive metrics are getting worse.
If someone will pay him, the Reds have to unload him.
I am not a BP apologist, but you cannot argue what he did last year when he had ducks on the pond. On a team that was less than clutch in the biggest times, he carried the team much of the sesaon. He tailed off at the end, was terrible when no one was on base as I think he was trying to win the Tundra for one of his many baby momma's, but he did drive in over 100 AND hit .338 with RISP.
I would understand your criticism if he had hit poorly with RISP, but the opposite happened.