Devils Advocate
Posts: 4,539
Oct 23, 2013 1:50pm
Wow! first he says not to hate the homo's and now his epiphany saying that
Bravo!
Read the shit here!
Pope Francis called ideological Christianity “an illness” that doesn’t serve Jesus Christ. Instead, it “frightens” people and pushes them away from religion.
Bravo!
Read the shit here!
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Oct 23, 2013 1:51pm
right wing Christians hate the Pope so he hates them back.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 23, 2013 1:59pm
First thing youve ever said that wasnt a lie. Right Wing Christians are the American Taliban.Devils Advocate;1522550 wrote:Wow! first he says not to hate the homo's and now his epiphany saying that
Bravo!
Read the shit here!
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Oct 23, 2013 2:02pm
Time for another Crusade!
BURN THE BIBLE BELT AND THE VATICAN! EVERYONE WINS!!!
BURN THE BIBLE BELT AND THE VATICAN! EVERYONE WINS!!!
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Sonofanump
Oct 23, 2013 3:05pm
Heretic;1522567 wrote:Time for another Crusade!
BURN THE BIBLE BELT AND THE VATICAN! EVERYONE WINS!!!
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Oct 23, 2013 4:11pm
As a right-wing Christian, I say, "Hmmmmm... Interesting."
We all have faults, I guess. Here's hoping I can demonstrate the love of Christ more, without compromising along the way.
We all have faults, I guess. Here's hoping I can demonstrate the love of Christ more, without compromising along the way.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 23, 2013 4:23pm
The idea of a Pope makes me laugh. "Oh here's this man who wasn't as holy but then a bunch of his holy buddies elected him and now he's even more holy than he was before and now has opinions that are direct from god".
Seriously, organized religion is the worst thing on the planet and anyone who believes in religion is a moron. Now I'm cool with people believing whatever they want to believe, however they shouldn't be allowed to vote. I'd even be okay with religious people getting 3/5ths of a vote instead of a full vote; whatever it takes to prevent as many stupid people from voting as possible.
Seriously, organized religion is the worst thing on the planet and anyone who believes in religion is a moron. Now I'm cool with people believing whatever they want to believe, however they shouldn't be allowed to vote. I'd even be okay with religious people getting 3/5ths of a vote instead of a full vote; whatever it takes to prevent as many stupid people from voting as possible.
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Oct 23, 2013 5:12pm
A) Would you rather unorganized religion?sleeper;1522646 wrote:...
Seriously, organized religion is the worst thing on the planet and anyone who believes in religion is a moron. ...
B) I think I agree with part B of this sentence, but I doubt that it is religion "they" believe in. At least I hope it's not religion "they" believe in.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 23, 2013 6:09pm
A) I would rather have people think about their own personal beliefs and not be hoodwinked by some crap that people came up with to steal their money and hold power over them. Organized religion is terrible; its a cult that never seems to get the negative light it deserves.cruiser_96;1522667 wrote:A) Would you rather unorganized religion?
B) I think I agree with part B of this sentence, but I doubt that it is religion "they" believe in. At least I hope it's not religion "they" believe in.
Its not hard to say without question that there is no god, but I'm 100% certain that any organized religion out there has it 100% wrong and is simply preying on the poor and/or stupid. How anyone backs this and says that is a good thing is beyond me.
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Oct 23, 2013 10:00pm
Ok.sleeper;1522682 wrote:A) I would rather have people think about their own personal beliefs and not be hoodwinked by some crap that people came up with to steal their money and hold power over them. Organized religion is terrible; its a cult that never seems to get the negative light it deserves.
Its not hard to say without question that there is no god, but I'm 100% certain that any organized religion out there has it 100% wrong and is simply preying on the poor and/or stupid. How anyone backs this and says that is a good thing is beyond me.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 23, 2013 10:45pm
It's not hard to say the word "science". Religious types hate that word and the concepts it represents.
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Oct 24, 2013 7:53am
Science.
Yup. Not hard at all.
#SpontaneousGeneration
Yup. Not hard at all.
#SpontaneousGeneration
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Oct 25, 2013 2:40pm
There is so much fail and misinformation in this thread it is staggering.
1. If he was referring to those like Westboro Baptist freaks then I agree with him, they are a "cancer".
2. If he was referring to all evangelical Christians then he is just as much a moron as the Westboro folks (ok, not as bad, that was too much).
3. Sleeper and Tiernan just prove their thought processes (maybe not their actions) are just as bad those those in the Westboro Baptist Church. They are just judging/denegrating Christians while the Westboro idiots are judging/denegrating homosexuals.
4. You are wrong once again Tiernan, most Christians don't hate science, you are once again showing your ignorance on the subject.
1. If he was referring to those like Westboro Baptist freaks then I agree with him, they are a "cancer".
2. If he was referring to all evangelical Christians then he is just as much a moron as the Westboro folks (ok, not as bad, that was too much).
3. Sleeper and Tiernan just prove their thought processes (maybe not their actions) are just as bad those those in the Westboro Baptist Church. They are just judging/denegrating Christians while the Westboro idiots are judging/denegrating homosexuals.
4. You are wrong once again Tiernan, most Christians don't hate science, you are once again showing your ignorance on the subject.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 25, 2013 2:51pm
It's a sad day when the champions of logic and reason are compared to the WBC. Just like Tea party members are compared to terrorists, right jmog? Please keep your religious cult beliefs to yourself.jmog;1523856 wrote:There is so much fail and misinformation in this thread it is staggering.
1. If he was referring to those like Westboro Baptist freaks then I agree with him, they are a "cancer".
2. If he was referring to all evangelical Christians then he is just as much a moron as the Westboro folks (ok, not as bad, that was too much).
3. Sleeper and Tiernan just prove their thought processes (maybe not their actions) are just as bad those those in the Westboro Baptist Church. They are just judging/denegrating Christians while the Westboro idiots are judging/denegrating homosexuals.
4. You are wrong once again Tiernan, most Christians don't hate science, you are once again showing your ignorance on the subject.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Oct 25, 2013 3:31pm
Did you or did you not say that religious people shouldn't have the right to vote?sleeper;1523867 wrote:It's a sad day when the champions of logic and reason are compared to the WBC. Just like Tea party members are compared to terrorists, right jmog? Please keep your religious cult beliefs to yourself.
Did Tiernan or did he not say that right wing Christians are like the Taliban?
Those two statements are not much different than "God Hates ****". All are detestable.
Oh, and your self proclaim to be a 'champion of logic' is hilarious since you tend to have so many logical fails its comical.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Oct 25, 2013 3:32pm
So your thought process is also the same since you are judging the Westboro clan?jmog;1523856 wrote:They are just judging/denegrating Christians while the Westboro idiots are judging/denegrating homosexuals.
Devils Advocate
Posts: 4,539
Oct 25, 2013 3:59pm
You HAVE ALL BEEN INFLUENCED BY THE DARK SIDE....
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Oct 25, 2013 4:09pm
Interesting thought, but while the WBC people are idiots, I am not saying they are not allowed to vote or equal to the "American Taliban".enigmaax;1523889 wrote:So your thought process is also the same since you are judging the Westboro clan?
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Oct 25, 2013 4:10pm
That's actually funny.Devils Advocate;1523908 wrote:You HAVE ALL BEEN INFLUENCED BY THE DARK SIDE....
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Oct 25, 2013 4:18pm
What if there were so many of them that they were certain to put their people in office and to force their extreme views on the rest of the country? Would you want the Westboro mentality determining your fate as a citizen?jmog;1523915 wrote:Interesting thought, but while the WBC people are idiots, I am not saying they are not allowed to vote or equal to the "American Taliban".
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Oct 25, 2013 4:22pm
Considering they don't believe in basic human rights due to who someone sleeps with in their own bedroom, nope I don't. However, if their cult grew to the point that it had a majority voting sect in the USA, I guess I'd be forced to find other places to live.enigmaax;1523919 wrote:What if there were so many of them that they were certain to put their people in office and to force their extreme views on the rest of the country? Would you want the Westboro mentality determining your fate as a citizen?
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Oct 25, 2013 4:25pm
So your Bible says homosexuality is okay?jmog;1523924 wrote:Considering they don't believe in basic human rights due to who someone sleeps with in their own bedroom, nope I don't. However, if their cult grew to the point that it had a majority voting sect in the USA, I guess I'd be forced to find other places to live.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Oct 25, 2013 4:39pm
Nope, the Bible does say that homosexuality is a sin.So your Bible says homosexuality is okay?
However, no where does it say it is any 'worse' of a sin than lying, adultery, theft, etc.
The Bible, however, specifically calls out religious folks and Christians who 'judge' others because in reality we are no better than them. We 'sin' just as well.
Not only in the book of Matthew does it state "Judge not or you will be judged" but Jesus was CONSTANTLY telling the religious leaders of the day that their judgemental ways and ceremonial hard/set in stone beliefs were wrong and they needed to change their ways.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Oct 25, 2013 5:22pm
See, my first instinct towards that is "yay, at least he doesn't think I'm an abomination/definitely going to hell". But then I give it a bit more thought and it still isn't an opinion that should be lauded. You're still equating being gay with theft, lying, adultery, etc.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Oct 25, 2013 5:34pm
Glad you do not distinguish between sins; that is one common annoyance with Christianity. But at its core, your rationale for calling WBC idiots and cancer is the exact same thing. "The Bible says this and you are doing it wrong so you suck." You and WBC do it. Now, I get that you are not being as forward or overbearing with it, but you specifically mentioned thought process vs. actions ... and the Christian thought process is always the same. It is always a matter of being less of a sinner or of knowing better what the bible says or what god wants or some other stretch that somehow makes you better. Some people go further with it, but it is all cult mentality.jmog;1523932 wrote:Nope, the Bible does say that homosexuality is a sin.
However, no where does it say it is any 'worse' of a sin than lying, adultery, theft, etc.
The Bible, however, specifically calls out religious folks and Christians who 'judge' others because in reality we are no better than them. We 'sin' just as well.
Not only in the book of Matthew does it state "Judge not or you will be judged" but Jesus was CONSTANTLY telling the religious leaders of the day that their judgemental ways and ceremonial hard/set in stone beliefs were wrong and they needed to change their ways.