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Jan 30, 2014 11:14 AM
SportsAndLady;1574223 wrote:Remember this idiot?
Remember the conversations that were had on here about whether you'd rather have Craft or Burke?
Jan 30, 2014 11:14am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:17 AM
Speaking of idiots...why the Craft bashing and why is this turning to him?
Jan 30, 2014 11:17am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:18 AM
Craft isn't even an issue with this team.
Jan 30, 2014 11:18am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:21 AM
Automatik;1574238 wrote:Craft isn't even an issue with this team.
That's correct, but he's the most recognizable and polarizing player, so he's going to get the grief...it comes with the territory.

...and idgaf what anybody says, I'm glad he's a Buckeye ;)
Jan 30, 2014 11:21am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:22 AM
WebFire;1574235 wrote:Remember the conversations that were had on here about whether you'd rather have Craft or Burke?
I do. Despite my pure hatred for Michigan, I was on the Burke side of that argument.

Craft is the most overrated college basketball player that I've ever seen.
Jan 30, 2014 11:22am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:22 AM
Exactly, and people love to pat themselves on the back.
Jan 30, 2014 11:22am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:23 AM
Automatik;1574234 wrote:Did Craft smash one of your ladies?
Just pointing out how stupid that tweet/argument was. I don't hate Craft.
Jan 30, 2014 11:23am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:23 AM
Automatik;1574248 wrote:Exactly, and people love to pat themselves on the back.
...all day long
Jan 30, 2014 11:23am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:24 AM
3 people say they'd take Craft over Burke translates to the entire OSU fanbase. :laugh:
Jan 30, 2014 11:24am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:26 AM
While talking PGs... who will run it next year? Scott or someone else?
Jan 30, 2014 11:26am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:27 AM
Automatik;1574254 wrote:3 people say they'd take Craft over Burke translates to the entire OSU fanbase. :laugh:
It was more than 3 people...and just the fact that he is being compared to the Trey Burke's and the Andrew Wiggin's of the worlds should tell you how overrated he is.
Jan 30, 2014 11:27am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:28 AM
He's only overrated if you buy into the media hype.
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Jan 30, 2014 11:34 AM
While the box scores may not recognize that overall impact, opposing coaches certainly do. CBSSports.com polled 100 coaches across the college basketball landscape before the season started and asked them which player they would add to their current roster if they could only add just one.
Craft received the third-most votes, behind only Indiana's Cody Zeller and UCLA's Shabazz Muhammad. The fact that Craft was that coveted by other coaches even though he isn’t much of an offensive force truly underscores just how much he can change a game without the ball in his hands.



That says more to me than some punks opinions on here.
Jan 30, 2014 11:34am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:39 AM
I don't know that you can call Craft overrated. Craft is what he is and what he has always been. A great defensive player, a helluva hustler, and a point guard that isn't going to give you offensive stats.

The difference is this year's team appears to lack playmakers, which they've had in the past. Now Craft is having to help make up for that, but it's not his strength.

I think the anger is misdirected towards Craft.
Jan 30, 2014 11:39am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:42 AM
Spot on. If they didn't have the offense of a Jr high girls team we wouldn't be having this convo.

He needs help for his game to shine....he has minimal.
Jan 30, 2014 11:42am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:43 AM
WebFire;1574270 wrote:I don't know that you can call Craft overrated. Craft is what he is and what he has always been. A great defensive player, a helluva hustler, and a point guard that isn't going to give you offensive stats.

The difference is this year's team appears to lack playmakers, which they've had in the past. Now Craft is having to help make up for that, but it's not his strength.

I think the anger is misdirected towards Craft.
Very well put
Jan 30, 2014 11:43am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:43 AM
centralbucksfan;1574262 wrote:CBSSports.com polled 100 coaches across the college basketball landscape before the season started and asked them which player they would add to their current roster if they could only add just one...UCLA's Shabazz Muhammad.
Yep, that sure solidifies just how spot-on those coaches are.

Now, if they would've said Royce White, I'd be much more inclined to believe their opinion(s).
Jan 30, 2014 11:43am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:49 AM
Azubuike24;1574277 wrote:Yep, that sure solidifies just how spot-on those coaches are.

Now, if they would've said Royce White, I'd be much more inclined to believe their opinion(s).
Lol yeah. That doesn't mean shit. Other than he is overrated if he's the third most coveted player.
Jan 30, 2014 11:49am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:51 AM
Prescott;1574192 wrote:The overall IQ of this team is near the moronic level.Most of them work to their weaknesses and not their strengths. Most of them make passes to their teammates that put the teammate in a negative situation. Most of them don't know when to push the ball and when to pull it out.

All the coaching can do is put them in a position to get decent shots. That is hard when the 2 lead guards won't shoot the ball when they open because they have zero confidence.

I don't buy LJ's point that the OSU fan base has been spoiled with scoring. I think it is reasonable for any fan base to expect that their team has the ability to score the ball.Most teams recruit guys who can shoot .
Mainly agree with this. It seems like if there's an opportunity to do something stupid or make a mistake, they do it with shocking regularity. It's either a bunch of passes around the 3-point line with no movement or one guy deciding to take on the entire defense despite no one being in rebounding position.

Offensively, they're comically bad and defensively, they're overrated. Can't defend the paint to save their lives.
Jan 30, 2014 11:51am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:51 AM
Azubuike24;1574277 wrote:Yep, that sure solidifies just how spot-on those coaches are.

Now, if they would've said Royce White, I'd be much more inclined to believe their opinion(s).
Uh, difference was...Muhumad HAD not played a college game yet. He was hype. Craft had two seasons of play. And I guess UK team is overrated this year? Best recruiting class ever!?

Wiggins? Multiple people and articles comparing him to Lebron James. So I guess he is overrated as well? Need I go on?
Jan 30, 2014 11:51am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:58 AM
WebFire;1574270 wrote:I don't know that you can call Craft overrated. Craft is what he is and what he has always been. A great defensive player, a helluva hustler, and a point guard that isn't going to give you offensive stats.

The difference is this year's team appears to lack playmakers, which they've had in the past. Now Craft is having to help make up for that, but it's not his strength.

I think the anger is misdirected towards Craft.
Good post, Webbie, and pretty much spot on. Some of these other comments bring the lulz, so thank you for that :rolleyes:
Jan 30, 2014 11:58am
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Jan 30, 2014 11:59 AM
centralbucksfan;1574283 wrote:Uh, difference was...Muhumad HAD not played a college game yet. He was hype. Craft had two seasons of play. And I guess UK team is overrated this year? Best recruiting class ever!?

Wiggins? Multiple people and articles comparing him to Lebron James. So I guess he is overrated as well? Need I go on?
Wiggins is overrated to the claims of Lebron James. There will not be a Lebron James for a long time. But wiggins is having a very very good season and has picked it up lately and is putting up 27 with ease. He's closer to a Lebron James than craft is to a top 3 coveted college bball player.
Jan 30, 2014 11:59am
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Jan 30, 2014 12:00 PM
Yep, and you're just further proving my point.

Coaches are just naming the most-hyped, most-talented, most-known players. It doesn't mean they are right more than they are wrong.

They were wrong about Shabazz. They were wrong about the LeBron comparisons. They were wrong about many, many others, including guys like the Harrison twins.

So, maybe they are wrong about Aaron Craft?
Jan 30, 2014 12:00pm
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Jan 30, 2014 12:01 PM
Great defensive player...gets absolutely shook by a PENN STATE player last night on the game winning jumper.
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Jan 30, 2014 12:03 PM
SportsAndLady;1574290 wrote:Great defensive player...gets absolutely shook by a PENN STATE player last night on the game winning jumper.
So he gets beat on this play and he's no longer a "great defensive player"? lol
Jan 30, 2014 12:03pm