Cya cbf.Laley23;1568409 wrote:Why are you taking a shot at Wiggins, and to call him lazy? Have you watched him play? And his character, for how good he is, is amazing. Probably the most humble "superstar" I've ever seen at the college level.
2013: Finished #2 in B1G regular season, B1G Tourney champs, Elite Eight appearance, finished top 10 in polls.robj55;1568525 wrote:Just to clarify my comments, I'm not saying that Matta should go or anything even close to that. He's one of the best coaches and recruiters in the country. I'm just saying that he and his staff deserve some of the blame in not developing these players over the last few years. Someone mentioned that Amir and Lenzelle's numbers have improved over the years, but really it's only because they are getting more minutes. All of these players are essentially the same players that they were when they came to OSU, and that is a major problem. Not sure how anyone can say otherwise.
25.4robj55;1568525 wrote:Just to clarify my comments, I'm not saying that Matta should go or anything even close to that. He's one of the best coaches and recruiters in the country. I'm just saying that he and his staff deserve some of the blame in not developing these players over the last few years. Someone mentioned that Amir and Lenzelle's numbers have improved over the years, but really it's only because they are getting more minutes. All of these players are essentially the same players that they were when they came to OSU, and that is a major problem. Not sure how anyone can say otherwise.
His shot is beyond atrocious. I guarantee almost everyone on this board can hit the 3 better than himsleeper;1568286 wrote:Not sure why people are saying Craft is overrated. He's the best defender in college basketball, maybe one of the best ever. His offensive game has never been that strong.
Uh ohMulva;1568556 wrote:25.4
27.4
27.1
Lenzelle's minutes the past 3 years.
Not cbf. For one, he's 80. And also, he'll never admit someone other than an Ohio State player is better than an Ohio State player.Classyposter58;1568560 wrote:His shot is beyond atrocious. I guarantee almost everyone on this board can hit the 3 better than him
Ahh, did I hurt your wittle feelings cs? Poor guy. lolSportsAndLady;1568579 wrote:Not cbf. For one, he's 80. And also, he'll never admit someone other than an Ohio State player is better than an Ohio State player.
Did I question his character? Didn't take a shot. Simple said he plays when he chooses. Its called laziness. I am far from the only one who has said this. Its the knock on him how he disappears during long stretches of games. And yes, I have seen him play plenty and its a legit issue.Laley23;1568409 wrote:Why are you taking a shot at Wiggins, and to call him lazy? Have you watched him play? And his character, for how good he is, is amazing. Probably the most humble "superstar" I've ever seen at the college level.
You worry about your own team's many issues and let me worry about Kansas' "issue" of wiggins "playing when he wants to play"centralbucksfan;1568590 wrote:Did I question his character? Didn't take a shot. Simple said he plays when he chooses. Its called laziness. I am far from the only one who has said this. Its the knock on him how he disappears during long stretches of games. And yes, I have seen him play plenty and its a legit issue.
What are the shot attempt numbers per game?Mulva;1568556 wrote:25.4
27.4
27.1
Lenzelle's minutes the past 3 years.
For one, disappearing for stretches does not equal laziness...at all. Passive play doesn't equal laziness. That's just a dumb comment.centralbucksfan;1568590 wrote:Did I question his character? Didn't take a shot. Simple said he plays when he chooses. Its called laziness. I am far from the only one who has said this. Its the knock on him how he disappears during long stretches of games. And yes, I have seen him play plenty and its a legit issue.
That maybe true, but doesn't mean he is lazy. At all.se-alum;1568679 wrote:Wiggins>>>>>>>>>Craft. Jesus. Wiggins is a hell of a player, but he does seem to lack the killer instinct that stars have. Hopefully he gets it, but that's usually not something you can teach.
se-alum;1568628 wrote:Don't forget, Matta had his shooter in this class, and he wasn't willing to stick it out. He's currently shooting 47% from 3 for Dayton.
This is true, so far.se-alum;1568679 wrote:Wiggins>>>>>>>>>Craft. Jesus. Wiggins is a hell of a player, but he does seem to lack the killer instinct that stars have. Hopefully he gets it, but that's usually not something you can teach.
Reps.Laley23;1568677 wrote:For one, disappearing for stretches does not equal laziness...at all. Passive play doesn't equal laziness. That's just a dumb comment.
Secondly, you didn't directly question his character. But you said Craft is everything good in college, and insinuated it was a travesty someone like Wiggins made the cover of a magazine. But it isn't, cause his character is tremendous and he is 10x the player Craft is.
I coached a kid in middle school who was one of the best 7th and 8th graders I had ever seen. But, you could just tell he didn't care for basketball. He is still playing at the varsity level and literally hasn't gotten any better. Scored 27 a game for me in middle school, averaging less than 5 as a sr in hs because he just doesn't like to play.LJ;1568712 wrote:I think the problem with Amir isn't actually development but the want to play the game. He plays like he doesn't care half the time. When someone gets on his ass he can be a force (remember sully up in his shit during the Syracuse game and how well he played after that?)
