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assumption
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Aug 12, 2013 11:47am
Been watching baseball for longer thanI care to say and Cabrera is far and away the best hitter that I have seen. Some experts say the best since Ted Williams. He gets no infield hits because of lack of speed. If I were an opposing mgr. Cabrera would get walked much more. Maybe that will happen soon, mainly because he will NOT swing at bad pitches and he hits strikes like nobody else in baseball.
Rotinaj
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Aug 12, 2013 11:57am
Sorry but he is NOT far and away better than Pujols was in his St Louis days. Probably on par, MAYBE a little better, but far and away is absurd.
wes_mantooth
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Aug 12, 2013 11:59am
He is very good, but I think Manny in his day was just as good
Laley23
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Aug 12, 2013 12:00pm
He is the best I've seen, but Pujols easily has a case as best in this generation alone. No way is he far and away the best. Manny was a beast as well for a good stretch of time.
Heretic
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Aug 12, 2013 12:05pm
Yeah, like others have said. In the "right here and now", it's a no-doubter that Miggy's the best, but you don't have to go back far to have Pujois, who was the best and at a level at or above Miggy's current level. I think that saying he's far and away the best is kind of getting into ESPN/SportsCenter talk where whoever is the best at any one moment is The Greatest Ever (slight exaggeration, but that's often how they portray things where "IN THE NOW" is the only thing that matters).
Rotinaj
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Aug 12, 2013 12:10pm
I didn't include guys like Manny and Bonds because of cheating.
Ironman92
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Aug 12, 2013 9:44pm
Bonds was the best I've seen....but Cabrera is working his way there. Pujols about the same....Manny close but a touch below IMO.
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Laley23
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Aug 12, 2013 10:38pm
My guess is Pujols was/is clean. He has had a natural dropoff with age, coupled with injuries that PEDs were masking/preventing.Ironman92;1486048 wrote:Bonds was the best I've seen....but Cabrera is working his way there. Pujols about the same....Manny close but a touch below IMO.
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Sonofanump
Aug 12, 2013 11:27pm
Miggy would bat fourth on the 1927 Yankees.
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vball10set
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Aug 13, 2013 8:30am
lol@ "far and away" :rolleyes:
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assumption
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Aug 13, 2013 9:16am
vball10set;1486145 wrote:lol@ "far and away" :rolleyes:[/QUO
That term may have been a bit over the top. That said, he is the best hitter in baseball today. If not him, who then??
If your watching your seeing greatness.
Laley23
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Aug 13, 2013 10:05am
assumption;1486169 wrote:No one is arguing that.vball10set;1486145 wrote:lol@ "far and away" :rolleyes:[/QUO
That term may have been a bit over the top. That said, he is the best hitter in baseball today. If not him, who then??
If your watching your seeing greatness.
But before him Pujols was the best and we were watching history. Before him, Manny. Before him, Bonds.
Miggy is having historical Back-To-Back seasons. But he hasnt touched what Pujols or Bonds did over a decade. Manny has never had a season like Miggy but over the career, was a bit better at a younger age.
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vball10set
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Aug 13, 2013 10:09am
vball10set;1486145 wrote:lol@ "far and away" :rolleyes:[/QUO
That term may have been a bit over the top. That said, he is the best hitter in baseball today. If not him, who then??
If your watching your seeing greatness.
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No one is arguing that.
But before him Pujols was the best and we were watching history. Before him, Manny. Before him, Bonds.
Miggy is having historical Back-To-Back seasons. But he hasnt touched what Pujols or Bonds did over a decade. Manny has never had a season like Miggy but over the career, was a bit better at a younger age.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Aug 13, 2013 10:12am
assumption;1486169 wrote: That term may have been a bit over the top. That said, he is the best hitter in baseball today. If not him, who then??
If your watching your seeing greatness.
This.Laley23;1486201 wrote:
No one is arguing that.
But before him Pujols was the best and we were watching history. Before him, Manny. Before him, Bonds.
Miggy is having historical Back-To-Back seasons. But he hasnt touched what Pujols or Bonds did over a decade. Manny has never had a season like Miggy but over the career, was a bit better at a younger age.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 13, 2013 11:23am
SMH @ OP "far and away"
To the OP: read this, and STFU
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/16954/albert-pujols-decade-of-dominance
He is currently the best hitter in baseball though, and a certain HOF if he's never caught roiding (I'm not saying he is, I'm saying if he's caught he's not HOF).
To the OP: read this, and STFU
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/16954/albert-pujols-decade-of-dominance
He is currently the best hitter in baseball though, and a certain HOF if he's never caught roiding (I'm not saying he is, I'm saying if he's caught he's not HOF).
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Aug 13, 2013 10:24pm
If Cabrera keeps it up he will have a better season than Pujols ever had but still what these guys have done as long as they have is really incredible. Cabrera is still 3 years younger than him however as he just turned 30
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vball10set
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Aug 18, 2013 9:21am
Juiced???
Classyposter58
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Aug 18, 2013 11:01pm
Lol no he's naturally a huge guy. He didn't explode like Bondsvball10set;1488430 wrote:Juiced???
wes_mantooth
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Aug 18, 2013 11:29pm
At this point, it is ballsy to say any of these guys aren't juicing. Time will tell
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vball10set
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Aug 19, 2013 7:53am
Classyposter58;1488629 wrote:Lol no he's naturally a huge guy. He didn't explode like Bonds
Fair or not, skepticism is now part of our sports culture. As mantooth said, time will tell.wes_mantooth;1488641 wrote:At this point, it is ballsy to say any of these guys aren't juicing. Time will tell