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Jul 11, 2013 5:21 PM
Lakers signed Nick Young today. Really like that for them. So far they've added Chris Kaman, Jordan Farmar and Nick Young. Nothing amazing, but they can be solid.
Jul 11, 2013 5:21pm
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Jul 11, 2013 6:50 PM
AK47 signs with Nets for mini mid-level of $3.1 mil
Jul 11, 2013 6:50pm
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Jul 11, 2013 8:18 PM
Trueblue23;1471250 wrote:Lakers signed Nick Young today. Really like that for them. So far they've added Chris Kaman, Jordan Farmar and Nick Young. Nothing amazing, but they can be solid.

Officially amnestied Metta today. Nick Young will be the starting small forward.
Jul 11, 2013 8:18pm
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Jul 11, 2013 8:19 PM
lhslep134;1471281 wrote:AK47 signs with Nets for mini mid-level of $3.1 mil
Damn, Brooklyn going to be serious if they can get chemistry figured out by mid season.
Jul 11, 2013 8:19pm
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Jul 11, 2013 8:20 PM
SportsAndLady;1471232 wrote:Davis is a for sure future all-star? I don't believe that at all.
If he stays healthy, he will be.

IMO, his biggest weakness is rebounding. I'm not sure he ever gets more than say 7 RPG. He could average 4+ blocks and 15+ points next year though, and I can see him becoming an elite offensive big man.

Very similar to LaMarcus Aldridge coming out of college with slightly more athleticism and much better defense. LaMarcus took a few years, but he always had the soft hands and elite offensive skill.

You can call me biased though :)
Jul 11, 2013 8:20pm
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Jul 11, 2013 8:21 PM
wildcats20;1471314 wrote:Officially amnestied Metta today. Nick Young will be the starting small forward.
Well we know he will score, not sure what else he brings but he can put it in the bucket.
Jul 11, 2013 8:21pm
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Jul 11, 2013 8:23 PM
robj55;1471317 wrote:Well we know he will score, not sure what else he brings but he can put it in the bucket.

Mike D's system, he should be fine lol
Jul 11, 2013 8:23pm
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Jul 11, 2013 10:09 PM
Lmao lhs what a sad sad life you must lead. ill respond to this in full when I'm at a computer.

and going back to.predictions and comments made part way through a season...damn I wasn't right with them, I clearly know nothing about the NBA, can you please teach me?
Jul 11, 2013 10:09pm
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Jul 11, 2013 10:35 PM
F it ill just respond from my phone

1. Doubting Harden could/would keep up what he was doing. That was split about 50/50 on here and I doubted him,.like many . Ad well as quite a few NBA analysts and columnists, so not sure why that matters

2. Gee I coulsnt predict josh Howard tearing a knee ligament. clearly not predicting an injury equates to talking out of my ass. Yet another great point made by you

3. I stand by the fact JR smith has one of the prettiest shots in the league, and ridiculous range. I didn't say his shot selection was the greatest. Another reach by you

4.Harden being selected, there ya go u finally made a valid point and pointed out me screwing up. 1/4 thus far

5. its no secret LeBron usually is guarding a less offensive threat for the majority of the game so he can help off and play passing lanes.

6. Gasol averaged 15 and 8. And no I didn't look up his per like I'm sure you'll find and say he's amazing. but based on the basic stats, he had an average to above average season. nothing amazing at all

7. About rose, rose was carrying a team that whole series and LeBron guarded him at thw end of games and did a good job at that time. And I stand by the fact that he's fast for a Sf but there's pgs who could give him the blow by with quickness if he tried to guard them an entire.game. not that that's a knoxk, bc almost all Sf's would have trouble

8. Talking about how basketball was physical in the 80s/90s..not sure Wtf you're even reaching for there, at this point


9. LeBron for the most part has the same game with a new found post game(in the playoffs) AMD a slightly better jumper. its not like he's a completely different player. he just has a solid team around him for a change.

10. Spoel is nothing special, he has a super team with a player that is without a doubt the best player in the league and on his way to be best ever. It's not Like he's.Phil Jackson or Red. He's just Spoel. And maybe you can enlighten me as to why he's oh so great.

11. LeBrons killer instinct is improving ill give u that point. so that's 2 so far, impressive

12. And takin that outta context, nice one. Pierce is much better on offense, Wallace is much much better on defense, thus being a wash.

13. I did talk out of my ass about blowing them up. so there's ur 3rd point



And as far as AI pretty sure I watched about 10x as many nuggets games as you and would know what AI brings to the table. But please humor me and tell me why He'll make oh such a difference.


Your entire post of "douchey"-ness had line 3 valid points. But whatever you say Mr NBA expert lol
Jul 11, 2013 10:35pm
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Jul 11, 2013 10:46 PM
^Gave you reps for responding.

Like I said..anyone could go back and look at my previous posts and find terrible ones.
Jul 11, 2013 10:46pm
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Jul 11, 2013 11:10 PM
I'm sure we have all made a hand full of dumb ass statements, bias gets the best of everyone lol
Jul 11, 2013 11:10pm
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Jul 11, 2013 11:11 PM
wildcats20;1471319 wrote:Mike D's system, he should be fine lol
lol yeah he will score a lot but it's his shot selection which worries me, maybe Kobe can rub off and mentor(not that Kobe has great shot selection)
Jul 11, 2013 11:11pm
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Jul 12, 2013 2:18 AM
Early WC predictions...

1. OKC (IN - Steven Adams and Grant Jerrett/OUT - Kevin Martin)...They need a replacement for Martin unless they are counting on Lamb really stepping up.
2. San Antonio (IN - Belinelli and Pendergraph/OUT - Gary Neal(?) and DeJuan Blair(?)...As a longtime fan of this franchise(been a fan of Timmy's since he was at Wake Forest), I wanted to see them get better down low and would have been ok with letting Splitter go as long as it was an improvement. Didn't happen and overpaid him. Could have done better than Pendergraph. But who am I to argue what moves this franchise makes after so many years of great ones.
3. LA Clippers (IN - Redick, Dudley, Collison, Reggie Bullock/OUT - Caron Butler, Billups, Bledsoe and Turiaf)...They re-signed CP3 and now have Doc Rivers as their HC, didnt/doesn't matter what else they do.
4. Golden State(IN - Iguodla, Speights, Jermaine O'Neal, Toney Douglas/OUT - Jarrett Jack, Carl Landry, Richard Jefferson and Biedrins). As long as Curry and Bogut stay healthy, they will be fine.
5. Houston (IN - Dwight Howard, Isiah Canaan, Omri Casspi/OUT - Carlos Delfino, Aaron Brooks)...Team needs more shooters and probably an upgrade at the 4 with a shooter. When Howard has succeeded he has had stretch 4's along side of him. Also, not sure how far they can go with Lin as the PG.
6. Memphis (IN - Kosta Koufos, Jamaal Franklin/OUT - Darrell Arthur)..Need more shooting. That was their downfall against the Spurs, as San Antonio just packed in the lane and let everyone not named Gasol and Randolph try to beat them and it resulted in the Grizz getting swept. Their bench is weak too.
7. Denver(IN - Hickson, Foye, Darrell Arthur/OUT - Iguodala, Koufos, Corey Brewer)...Getting rid of George Karl will bite them in the ass, and so will losing Iguodala. Not a superstar but it left them without a star. Gallinari will be out for a while to start the season. If they can get Monte Ellis, it might move them to 6.
8. Minnesota (IN - Kevin Martin, Corey Brewer, Ronny Turiaf, Shabazz Muhammed/OUT - Ridnour, Kirilenko)...2 HUGE IF's for their season 1-Re-signing Pekovic and 2- the health of Love and Rubio. They might be able to get by without Pekovic by bringing in someone via trade but even if they bring him back, a healthy Love and Rubio will be even bigger concern if they want to get back in the playoffs for the first time in 10 seasons.

9.New Orleans - Holiday, Evans, Gordon...Will they all get enough shots to remain happy. I think Davis will have a big sophomore season.
10.Portland - They should win more games than last year but end up out of the playoffs. They still have one of the worst benches in the league.
11.LA Lakers - The more games that Kobe misses, the better their chances of getting a great pick in the draft. Outside of Kobe, this team will struggle tremendously. Nash/Meeks/Young/Gasol and Kaman? 2 glaring weaknesses and Nash and Kaman each have missed 40+ games combined over the last 2 seasons.
12 Sacramento is on their way up with their youth. If Cousins can keep his attitude in check, he could put some bigger numbers than previous years. Losing Evans is addition by subtraction. McLemore will have a great rookie season.
13 and 14. Dallas and Utah are on their way down. Mark Cuban better be making some changes fast. Struck out on free agency big time this year. Utah should be fun to watch with Trey Burke but other than that, the team doesn't have much going for them in the backcourt and i'm not sold on Favors/Kanter frontcourt.
15. Phoenix has 5 role players as starters. They could get out of the conference basement if Bledsoe does well as a full time starter. Len should struggle at first but will do well as the season progresses with Gortat and Scola playing along side of him.
Jul 12, 2013 2:18am
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Jul 12, 2013 2:28 AM
Eastern Conference shorter version...

1 Miami will coast through the regular season once again.
2. Indiana will have another strong season. If they have one weakness it is their backcourt but they should be ok. Granger will be key once the playoffs come around.
3/4 Brooklyn, Chicago - can flip flop them if Rose doesnt come back strong and Nets don't gel but I think both will workout in their respective favors. Nets may just have the best bench in the league.
5 New York - Will underachieve like every year
6 Cleveland - All depends on the health of Bynum/Irving and Varejao
7 Washington - youth will guide them.
8 Atlanta - desperately need Brandon Jennings

9 Detroit For some reason, I really like the Josh Smith signing. Getting Billups back won't hurt either.
10 Milwaukee is still a question mark because Jennings hasn't made up his mind yet.
11-15 Honestly I dont know how well they would do if the rest of EC teams combined as one.
Jul 12, 2013 2:28am
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Jul 12, 2013 6:45 AM
The Nets just added AK47 on a 2 year deal. 1st year is worth 3.1 million with a 2nd year player option.

Definitely wanted to play for a contender after taking a pretty big paycut.
Jul 12, 2013 6:45am
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Jul 12, 2013 7:50 AM
Dan Gilbert;1471440 wrote:The Nets just added AK47 on a 2 year deal. 1st year is worth 3.1 million with a 2nd year player option.

Definitely wanted to play for a contender after taking a pretty big paycut.

The owner was likely rooting for Ivan Drago.
Jul 12, 2013 7:50am
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Jul 12, 2013 11:22 AM
Hb31187;1471378 wrote: 6. Gasol averaged 15 and 8. And no I didn't look up his per like I'm sure you'll find and say he's amazing. but based on the basic stats, he had an average to above average season. nothing amazing at all
Case in point

Done talking basketball with you.
Jul 12, 2013 11:22am
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Jul 12, 2013 11:26 AM
Dan Gilbert;1471440 wrote:The Nets just added AK47 on a 2 year deal. 1st year is worth 3.1 million with a 2nd year player option.

Definitely wanted to play for a contender after taking a pretty big paycut.
$7 mil is a HUGE paycut. Do you know how much the player option is for?
Jul 12, 2013 11:26am
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Jul 12, 2013 11:35 AM
Deal isn't finalized and it doesn't state how much the player option is for.
Jul 12, 2013 11:35am
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Jul 12, 2013 11:36 AM
Since when is 15 and 8 for an injured big that doesn't play huge min not a good season? didn't Gasol come off the bench as well? Gasol is anything but average. lolfail
Jul 12, 2013 11:36am
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Jul 12, 2013 11:38 AM
lhslep134;1471588 wrote:$7 mil is a HUGE paycut. Do you know how much the player option is for?
In the neighborhood of $11 mil. Case and point of a player over valuing themselves. Just like Ellis. With Millsap, I heard that his agent came out in FA asking for $15 mill a season, no team offered that and money dried up quick which is why he ended up signing the 2 yr deal in Atl. Had his agent not been a dumb fuck a $12 mil 4-5 deal would have been available.
Jul 12, 2013 11:38am
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Jul 12, 2013 11:43 AM
Commander of Awesome;1471595 wrote:In the neighborhood of $11 mil. Case and point of a player over valuing themselves. Just like Ellis. With Millsap, I heard that his agent came out in FA asking for $15 mill a season, no team offered that and money dried up quick which is why he ended up signing the 2 yr deal in Atl. Had his agent not been a dumb **** a $12 mil 4-5 deal would have been available.
There was money to go around this offseason but you are correct with players over valuing themselves. Teams are more patient to tank this season in hopes of the mega draft and free agent pool next year.
Jul 12, 2013 11:43am
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Jul 12, 2013 11:52 AM
sportswizuhrd;1471431 wrote:Eastern Conference shorter version...

1 Miami will coast through the regular season once again.
2. Indiana will have another strong season. If they have one weakness it is their backcourt but they should be ok. Granger will be key once the playoffs come around.
3/4 Brooklyn, Chicago - can flip flop them if Rose doesnt come back strong and Nets don't gel but I think both will workout in their respective favors. Nets may just have the best bench in the league.
5 New York - Will underachieve like every year
6 Cleveland - All depends on the health of Bynum/Irving and Varejao
7 Washington - youth will guide them.
8 Atlanta - desperately need Brandon Jennings

9 Detroit For some reason, I really like the Josh Smith signing. Getting Billups back won't hurt either.
10 Milwaukee is still a question mark because Jennings hasn't made up his mind yet.
11-15 Honestly I dont know how well they would do if the rest of EC teams combined as one.
If the heat do not make any moves, I honestly see the Pacers getting the first seed.
Jul 12, 2013 11:52am
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Jul 12, 2013 11:53 AM
Commander of Awesome;1471592 wrote:Since when is 15 and 8 for an injured big that doesn't play huge min not a good season? didn't Gasol come off the bench as well? Gasol is anything but average. lolfail
good stats... I will say I think Gasol is overrated. Every time I've watched him play (albeit only like 10 times last season) I came away very very unimpressed. A lot of dumb plays. A lot of unnecessary shots when other guys were open, etc etc.
Jul 12, 2013 11:53am
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Jul 12, 2013 12:01 PM
ohiobucks1;1471611 wrote:good stats... I will say I think Gasol is overrated. Every time I've watched him play (albeit only like 10 times last season) I came away very very unimpressed. A lot of dumb plays. A lot of unnecessary shots when other guys were open, etc etc.
Lakers last year were a mess and he was injured. He's been pretty incredible and top 3 most talented bigs in the league for a decade. I'll give him a pass last season for some bad outings.

To say he sucks etc, like HB elluded to based on stat sheet scouting is pretty dumb though and has zero merit to it. He should just admit his fail on that one and move on.
Jul 12, 2013 12:01pm