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Dec 31, 2013 5:17 PM
reclegend22;1559841 wrote:I don't really subscribe to that theory. For teams that are actually capable of not getting embarrassed and at least feigning competitiveness, the exposure of playing at a big-time venue is probably pretty positive, even in a 20 or 30-point loss. But nowhere is a kid watching TV and saying, "I want to be a Firebird," after watching St. Kat's get beat by 80 by a West Coast Conference team.

It's about the school getting money. Which isn't all that bad, I guess. But it's demoralizing for team itself. JMO.
I don't think it would be that demoralizing. I'd say those kids are probably the same as me or you. I know I'd love to play in game against the likes of SDSU or Utah.

Also while I am in this thread let me say it again. Fuck You Providence.
Dec 31, 2013 5:17pm
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Jan 3, 2014 8:54 AM
Arizona beats Wazzou 60-25. Sounds like one of those games that you could use as a torture tactic...
Jan 3, 2014 8:54am
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Jan 4, 2014 3:43 PM
SMU about to beat Connecticut. Cincinnati won at Memphis. There might not be a single top 15 team in the AAC, but it's a pretty decent league after being one that was just thrown together. 5 or 6 pretty good teams, and even UCF and USF are decent.
Jan 4, 2014 3:43pm
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Jan 4, 2014 6:05 PM
Duke loses to Notre Dame. That's a terrible loss. Ok State down to KSU late.
Jan 4, 2014 6:05pm
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Jan 4, 2014 6:08 PM
reclegend22;1556758 wrote:Definitely bad news for Notre Dame. Grant's all they had, and even with him they were only slightly better than appalling. Mike Brey's worst team in years, maybe ever.
lol

Apparently Duke < appalling.
Jan 4, 2014 6:08pm
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Jan 4, 2014 6:11 PM
Mulva;1562359 wrote:Duke loses to Notre Dame. That's a terrible loss. Ok State down to KSU late.
They were 9-4 and should have beaten undefeated OSU. Not a good loss, but not a "terrible" one. Especially on the road.
Jan 4, 2014 6:11pm
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Jan 4, 2014 6:46 PM
SportsAndLady;1562364 wrote:They were 9-4 and should have beaten undefeated OSU. Not a good loss, but not a "terrible" one. Especially on the road.
9-4 with 0 good wins. And losses to Indiana State and North Dakota State. And then they lost their best player to being a dumbass. That is not a good team.

Would be like if ohio state would have lost at Purdue.
Jan 4, 2014 6:46pm
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Jan 4, 2014 6:58 PM
Mulva;1562386 wrote:9-4 with 0 good wins. And losses to Indiana State and North Dakota State. And then they lost their best player to being a dumbass. That is not a good team.

Would be like if ohio state would have lost at Purdue.
It's not a terrible loss..i don't give a fuck about what you are saying, it's not a terrible loss

And I hate Duke
Jan 4, 2014 6:58pm
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Jan 4, 2014 7:00 PM
SportsAndLady;1562398 wrote:It's not a terrible loss..i don't give a fuck about what you are saying, it's not a terrible loss

And I hate Duke

Not yet, but I think ND will fall to under .500 by the middle of ACC season, and if they do, at that point itll be a really bad loss on Duke's schedule.
Jan 4, 2014 7:00pm
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Jan 4, 2014 7:01 PM
SportsAndLady;1562398 wrote:It's not a terrible loss..i don't give a fuck about what you are saying, it's not a terrible loss

And I hate Duke
Exactly ND will probably be a tourney team. High ranked opponents always have trouble at ND that's why the Vegas line was only 5.5 points
Jan 4, 2014 7:01pm
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Jan 4, 2014 7:16 PM
Crimson streak;1562404 wrote:Exactly ND will probably be a tourney team. High ranked opponents always have trouble at ND that's why the Vegas line was only 5.5 points

You think? I think ND finishes around .500. We'll see.
Jan 4, 2014 7:16pm
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Jan 4, 2014 7:33 PM
SportsAndLady;1562398 wrote:It's not a terrible loss..i don't give a fuck about what you are saying, it's not a terrible loss
Oh OK. Just disregard the facts. That works.
Jan 4, 2014 7:33pm
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Jan 4, 2014 7:42 PM
Mulva;1562386 wrote:9-4 with 0 good wins. And losses to Indiana State and North Dakota State. And then they lost their best player to being a dumbass. That is not a good team.

Would be like if ohio state would have lost at Purdue.
Eh, it's no different than Michigan losing at Penn State last year. It happens. As I said in the betting thread, this loss was not surprising in the least, whether you want to believe it or not. Duke does this against an average team every year on the road, once or twice, even in its best of years. Losing at places like Miami under Frank Haith, Va Tech, Virginia, Boston College, St. John's, N.C State, Wake Forest, etc. Notre Dame, while not a good team by any measure, does have some individual players with talent and a tough home crowd backing them.

It's the Duke game. Every average team's biggest. It's something I came to peace with years ago.
Jan 4, 2014 7:42pm
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Jan 4, 2014 7:46 PM
Heretic;1562360 wrote:lol

Apparently Duke < appalling.
Notre Dame is not a good team and even after beating Duke they will continue to not be a good team. A game against Duke or North Carolina has just a little bit more of a motivating factor behind it than one against North Dakota State. That's a reality.
Jan 4, 2014 7:46pm
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Jan 4, 2014 7:47 PM
reclegend22;1562485 wrote:Eh, it's no different than Michigan losing at Penn State last year. It happens
Also a terrible loss.
Jan 4, 2014 7:47pm
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Jan 4, 2014 7:49 PM
Mulva;1562502 wrote:Also a terrible loss.
I never said it wasn't a terrible loss. I am merely stating that it will have no bearing whatsoever on where Duke goes from here or what it can ultimately accomplish.
Jan 4, 2014 7:49pm
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Jan 4, 2014 9:32 PM
Mulva;1562386 wrote:Would be like if ohio state would have lost at Purdue.
Pretty much the perfect comparison. In the short term, it's a terrible loss. In the grand scheme it won't mean anything unless the team goes into some unrealistic-seeming tailspin afterwards because by the end of the season, it's a lot harder to find good teams WITHOUT at least one surprising loss than it is to find ones with them.

But at least for today, it's a bad loss to a team that, due to losing one of their top players to academics immediately after Ohio State didn't lose to them, is likely destined to be mediocre to poor.
Jan 4, 2014 9:32pm
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Jan 4, 2014 10:21 PM
No one loss in college basketball, in the regular season, keeps a team from possibly reaching their goals. Some are just bad losses.
Jan 4, 2014 10:21pm
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Jan 4, 2014 10:55 PM
I'll bet anyone on here that ND doesn't go .500 in the ACC and will miss the NCAA's. I see them at best, 6th in the ACC.
All better
Duke
Carolina
Syracuse
Virginia
Pittsburgh

Right there
Maryland
Florida State
NC State
Jan 4, 2014 10:55pm
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Jan 5, 2014 12:03 AM
Duke gets a pass on this loss. Coach k was away from the team for a few days because his brother passed away the day after Christmas.
Jan 5, 2014 12:03am
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Jan 5, 2014 12:18 AM
Prescott;1562648 wrote:Duke gets a pass on this loss. Coach k was away from the team for a few days because his brother passed away the day after Christmas.
Seriously?
Jan 5, 2014 12:18am
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Jan 5, 2014 12:32 AM
His back flared up on the flight and he missed a whole season...
Jan 5, 2014 12:32am
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Jan 5, 2014 11:20 AM
Midstate01;1562651 wrote:Seriously?
Absolutely.
Jan 5, 2014 11:20am
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Jan 5, 2014 2:03 PM
Prescott;1562648 wrote:Duke gets a pass on this loss....
lol
Jan 5, 2014 2:03pm
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Jan 5, 2014 2:25 PM
Azubuike24;1562657 wrote:His back flared up on the flight and he missed a whole season...
Krzyzewski was severely ill during the '94-95 season. He was hospitalized and bed-ridden for months. It was just a bit more serious than something that can be cured with a back rub.
prescott wrote:Duke gets a pass on this loss. Coach k was away from the team for a few days because his brother passed away the day after Christmas.
This is true. K's brother did in fact die recently.

As for the game itself, Duke lost to a bad team. As said in this thread, it happens. Duke played about as horribly as it could have and, despite dreadful shooting overall as a team, arguably the nation's best player (Parker) scoring only 7 points, and being completely outmatched inside, the Blue Devils still had a chance to win on its final possession. Duke shot 42%. Without hot three-point shooting from Rod Hood and Quinn Cook, the team would've shot in the low 30s. Notre Dame, conversely, shot 50% from three and 53% overall. They had the hot hand and Duke couldn't keep up on this day.
Jan 5, 2014 2:25pm