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Jul 10, 2013 2:29 PM
Commander of Awesome;1470295 wrote:Don't need to be 4 seed or better to make the playoffs.

As for your question, depends on factors Ironman. Can Kyrie stay healthy? Why type of improvement jump does Waiters/TT make? Etc...

Obviously....was referring to like_that's thought they could be a playoff team without Bynum...seeing how valuable Bynum is thought to be.

Anyways I agree 6-9 seed without Bynum but otherwise healthy.

Miami, Chicago, Indy (I gotta believe either NY or Brooklyn will be a top 4 and guessing the other 5 but one could definitely fall apart as they seem to be of those molds)

It would be quite the improvement to go from 24 wins (health killed them) to a #6 seed or better.
Jul 10, 2013 2:29pm
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Jul 10, 2013 2:51 PM
friendfromlowry;1470328 wrote:I was reading last night that the Thunder might be the 4th or 5th best team in the West now. Clippers, Warriors, and Houston made some big improvements, the Spurs kept their two key free agents, and the Thunder didn't do a whole lot, while losing Kevin Martin.
I completely disagree with that article you read. Clippers will be improved, Warriors possibly (they were only slightly above league average last year in both offensive and defensive rating; exploded in playoffs so it's hard to tell how good they really are), obviously Rockets are better.

But to drop the Thunder behind them? The Thunder were ranked 1st and 4th respectively in ORtg and Drtg, for them to drop off that much only losing Kevin Martin and replacing his minutes with Jeremy Lamb and Reggie Jackson? I say hogwash.
Jul 10, 2013 2:51pm
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Jul 10, 2013 3:38 PM
I believe Thunder lead the league in scoring differential as well. The Harden trade is one of the worst ever anyone you look at it, but they're still an elite team.
Jul 10, 2013 3:38pm
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Jul 10, 2013 4:01 PM
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 9m Hearing that Cavs think Andrew Bynum wants to play in Dallas. But nothing official from any parties involved.

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 6m
Mavs can't come close to Cavs' offer for Bynum. But hearing, with the way contract is structured, $24 million not as grand as it appears.
Jul 10, 2013 4:01pm
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Jul 10, 2013 4:02 PM
Cavs will lose out once again..
Jul 10, 2013 4:02pm
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Jul 10, 2013 4:12 PM
Commander of Awesome;1470502 wrote:Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 9m Hearing that Cavs think Andrew Bynum wants to play in Dallas. But nothing official from any parties involved.

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 6m
Mavs can't come close to Cavs' offer for Bynum. But hearing, with the way contract is structured, $24 million not as grand as it appears.

Amico is a Moron and never knows anything. He makes shit up
Jul 10, 2013 4:12pm
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Jul 10, 2013 4:14 PM
Withers just tweeted that bynum's agent wants to meet back with the cavs.
Jul 10, 2013 4:14pm
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Jul 10, 2013 4:14 PM
Midstate01;1470503 wrote:Cavs will lose out once again..
Signing him is a huge risk. I wouldn't say we lose out if he goes elsewhere.
Jul 10, 2013 4:14pm
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Jul 10, 2013 4:17 PM
Only way the Cavs lose on this is if Bynum plays for the Mavs and pwns.
Jul 10, 2013 4:17pm
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Jul 10, 2013 4:21 PM
If Bynum doesn't want to work to make the most possible cash in an incentive based $12M contract then he can go to Dallas. As Windy said today Bynum is very knowledgable about his knee situation so it's telling IMO if he doesn't want an incentive laden contract.

Especially one that could be worth the most next season that would allow him to sign a max deal in 2014.
Jul 10, 2013 4:21pm
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Jul 10, 2013 4:23 PM
Rotinaj;1470514 wrote:Signing him is a huge risk. I wouldn't say we lose out if he goes elsewhere.

Moreso just another FA who doesn't sign with cavs is my point.
Jul 10, 2013 4:23pm
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Jul 10, 2013 7:49 PM
friendfromlowry;1470330 wrote:Agreed. Top five probably goes 1) Miami 2) Indiana then 3-5) is a toss-up of New York, Brooklyn, and Chicago if Rose ever fucking plays again. Boston is probably out this year. Even without Bynum, the Cavs have to beat out Milwaukee and Atlanta.
I don't think Milwaukee and Atlanta are the only two teams the Cavs have to beat out. Orlando and Charlotte should be terrible again, but I think everyone from 10-13 took a step up. Toronto went .500 after adding Gay last year, Washington was .500 with Wall and added Otto Porter, Detroit got Josh Smith, etc.

The 6-8 spots are wide open.
Jul 10, 2013 7:49pm
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Jul 10, 2013 7:51 PM
Chris Broussard tweeted Bynum to cavs
Jul 10, 2013 7:51pm
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Jul 10, 2013 7:51 PM
Bynum is signing with Cleveland, per Broussard.
Jul 10, 2013 7:51pm
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Jul 10, 2013 7:52 PM
I hope he bitch slaps Mike Brown, then shoots a three
Jul 10, 2013 7:52pm
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Jul 10, 2013 7:54 PM
Trueblue23;1470600 wrote:I hope he bitch slaps Mike Brown, then shoots a three

I'd laugh. His eyes and nose would fall off like a mr potato head
Jul 10, 2013 7:54pm
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Jul 10, 2013 7:57 PM
If the deal is what was reported it is only 6 mill guaranteed. Great deal for the cavs
Jul 10, 2013 7:57pm
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Jul 10, 2013 7:58 PM
Bynum signing with the Cavs!
Jul 10, 2013 7:58pm
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Jul 10, 2013 7:58 PM
Mulva;1470597 wrote:I don't think Milwaukee and Atlanta are the only two teams the Cavs have to beat out. Orlando and Charlotte should be terrible again, but I think everyone from 10-13 took a step up. Toronto went .500 after adding Gay last year, Washington was .500 with Wall and added Otto Porter, Detroit got Josh Smith, etc.

The 6-8 spots are wide open.
I was referring to the playoff teams from last year, but you're right. A lot of the bottom-tier teams made some quiet but solid improvements.
Jul 10, 2013 7:58pm
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Jul 10, 2013 8:04 PM
Crimson streak;1470606 wrote:If the deal is what was reported it is only 6 mill guaranteed. Great deal for the cavs

$6 million? Wow
Jul 10, 2013 8:04pm
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Jul 10, 2013 8:06 PM
Cavs are gonna be fun to watch. If I move by then, I might get the NBA package where you pick 5 teams. Cavs would for sure be one of them.
Jul 10, 2013 8:06pm
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Jul 10, 2013 8:06 PM
Ironman92;1470610 wrote:$6 million? Wow

6 mill, up to 12 with incentives and team option for next year worth 12.5
Jul 10, 2013 8:06pm
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Jul 10, 2013 8:07 PM
So what's the predictions on what the lineup will look like next year?
Jul 10, 2013 8:07pm
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Jul 10, 2013 8:15 PM
Benny The Jet;1470615 wrote:So what's the predictions on what the lineup will look like next year?

Pg- Kyrie
Sg- waiters
Sf- gee or Clark
Pf- Thompson
C- Bynum

Bench
Av
Zeller
Bennett
Gee/ Clark
Miles
Jack
Karasev
Jul 10, 2013 8:15pm
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Jul 10, 2013 8:17 PM
Benny The Jet;1470615 wrote:So what's the predictions on what the lineup will look like next year?
Irving, Waiters, Clark, AV, Bynum

Bench: Jack, Bennett, TT, Zeller, Gee, Felix, Karasev

Didn't forget Miles. I think he will be waived in order to fit Bynum under the cap. I know we have room for $6M but I think for the ceiling of the deal. Remember seeing something saying all three teams after him had to make a move to fit him and ours was waiving Miles.
Jul 10, 2013 8:17pm