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Jun 11, 2013 7:23 PM
Crimson streak;1456198 wrote:Especially a guy who really showed potential at the end of the year
Yeah, but then we'd more than likely drafting a guy at #2 to take his position.
Jun 11, 2013 7:23pm
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Jun 11, 2013 7:25 PM
Pick6;1456202 wrote:Yeah, but then we'd more than likely drafting a guy at #2 to take his position.

Not necessarily, I don't think we draft porter at all. We will take either Noel or b Mac. Whoever Orlando doesn't take
Jun 11, 2013 7:25pm
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Jun 11, 2013 7:37 PM
Crimson streak;1456204 wrote:Not necessarily, I don't think we draft porter at all. We will take either Noel or b Mac. Whoever Orlando doesn't take
Yeah. My personal opinion is the we take Noel or trade. Cavs have expressed interest in Noel, Porter, McLemore, Oladipo, trading down, and trading for an all-star. If we go by the past few years (looking at TT and Waiters), expect the Cavs to take Bennett lol.
Jun 11, 2013 7:37pm
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Jun 11, 2013 10:20 PM
#2 and Moe Harkless for #1? Fuck yeah you do that! Harkless is a teenager esenntially and lit up the Big East in his only year. He is going to be a REALLY good 2nd unit guy (if he doesnt crack a starting line-up). The way the NBA is now a days, 2nd unit scorers are vital.
Jun 11, 2013 10:20pm
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Jun 12, 2013 4:23 PM
Orlando doesn't need Noel so I could see them moving up to take McLemore or Burke(and trade Nelson at the deadline) or even Porter. What I wouldn't mind is seeing the Cavs do this deal for Harkless and trade down again for an extra pick and another player(non rookie).

For shits and giggles....#2 to OKC (to take Noel) for someone like Kevin Martin or Perry Jones and their 1st rounder? Might have to be done post draft in a sign and trade for Martin.
Jun 12, 2013 4:23pm
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Jun 12, 2013 4:28 PM
sportswizuhrd;1456852 wrote:Orlando doesn't need Noel so I could see them moving up to take McLemore or Burke(and trade Nelson at the deadline) or even Porter. What I wouldn't mind is seeing the Cavs do this deal for Harkless and trade down again for an extra pick and another player(non rookie).

For shits and giggles....#2 to OKC (to take Noel) for someone like Kevin Martin or Perry Jones and their 1st rounder? Might have to be done post draft in a sign and trade for Martin.
If we trade to #2. Get Harkless and then the Magic take McLemore and we still get Noel I will shit myself
Jun 12, 2013 4:28pm
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Jun 12, 2013 4:41 PM
ohiobucks1;1456854 wrote:If we trade to #2. Get Harkless and then the Magic take McLemore and we still get Noel I will shit myself
It's possible. Chris Grant is the guy who turned John Leuer into a 2nd round pick, Wayne Ellington and Mo Speights. The guy knows how to deal.
Jun 12, 2013 4:41pm
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Jun 12, 2013 4:41 PM
mucalum49;1456869 wrote:It's possible. Chris Grant is the guy who turned John Leuer into a 2nd round pick, Wayne Ellington and Mo Speights. The guy knows how to deal.
True. And Waiters, TT, and Kyrie have all been dime picks so far. Zeller is the only one I'm not sure about. And he has potential.
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Jun 12, 2013 4:46 PM
ohiobucks1;1456854 wrote:If we trade to #2. Get Harkless and then the Magic take McLemore and we still get Noel I will shit myself
Just checked their salaries...

PG-Nelson/Udrih
SG-Afflalo/Turkey Glue
SF-Harris/Harkless
PF-Davis/Harrington
C-Vucevic/Nicholson

Maybe they do need Noel. Don't see him starting over Vucevic anytime soon.

This team is paying a combined 25 MILLION to Gilbert Arenas and Quentin Richardson next season! Damn!
Jun 12, 2013 4:46pm
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Jun 12, 2013 7:16 PM
mucalum49;1456869 wrote:It's possible. Chris Grant is the guy who turned John Leuer into a 2nd round pick, Wayne Ellington and Mo Speights. The guy knows how to deal.
You forgot about the 1st round pick as well.
Jun 12, 2013 7:16pm
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Jun 14, 2013 12:35 PM
Sam Amico‏@SamAmicoFSO17hCavs have been working on "something major," says source. But no details given due to the magnitude.
Jun 14, 2013 12:35pm
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Jun 14, 2013 12:44 PM
Wouldn't surprise me, but Amico is a fucktard. Pretty sure he was the guy who thought Andy wasn't even with the cavs anymore.
Jun 14, 2013 12:44pm
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Jun 14, 2013 12:45 PM
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 17h

Also, according to those within organization, Cavs lukewarm on Victor Oladipo or Anthony Bennett at #1, going back & forth on Noel/McLemore.


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Source adds that Cavs have talked to one team in particular a couple times about No. 1 pick, but it's exploratory only at this stage.
Jun 14, 2013 12:45pm
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Jun 14, 2013 4:24 PM
I will laugh so hard if they take Anthony Bennett #1. What a lazy POS he is.
Jun 14, 2013 4:24pm
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Jun 14, 2013 4:25 PM
Laley23;1457992 wrote:I will laugh so hard if they take Anthony Bennett #1. What a lazy POS he is.

I took that as theyve eliminated them from talk at number 1.
Jun 14, 2013 4:25pm
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Jun 14, 2013 4:59 PM
Midstate01;1457994 wrote:I took that as theyve eliminated them from talk at number 1.
I know. But doesn't that statement mean they looked at the possibility?
Jun 14, 2013 4:59pm
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Jun 14, 2013 5:01 PM
Laley23;1458003 wrote:I know. But doesn't that statement mean they looked at the possibility?

Id guess so. due diligence
Jun 14, 2013 5:01pm
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Jun 14, 2013 5:02 PM
Laley23;1458003 wrote:I know. But doesn't that statement mean they looked at the possibility?
I think it means they thought about it just to cover their bases, but it doesn't really mean it was a serious consideration. At least that's how I interpret that expression.
Jun 14, 2013 5:02pm
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Jun 14, 2013 5:13 PM
Thanks for repeating what has already been said. :thumbup:
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Jun 14, 2013 5:33 PM
His post wasn't there when I started typing mine and didn't appear until I hit submit.

Thanks for your valuable input other self-appointed moderator!
Jun 14, 2013 5:33pm
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Jun 14, 2013 5:59 PM
The clippers are willing to trade Jordan and griffin to clear space for Paul and Howard. I'd give up TT Andy and the number 1 for both. Then draft bullock at 19 .

Pg- kyrie
Sg- waiters
Sf- bullock
Pf- griffin
C- Jordan

Bench- gee, Ellington, Livingston, zeller, Speights.

Easily a playoff team and probably a too 4 team in the east.
Jun 14, 2013 5:59pm
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Jun 14, 2013 6:08 PM
Crimson streak;1458038 wrote:The clippers are willing to trade Jordan and griffin to clear space for Paul and Howard. I'd give up TT Andy and the number 1 for both. Then draft bullock at 19 .

Pg- kyrie
Sg- waiters
Sf- bullock
Pf- griffin
C- Jordan

Bench- gee, Ellington, Livingston, zeller, Speights.

Easily a playoff team and probably a too 4 team in the east.

That'd be a big shot to the salary cap.
Jun 14, 2013 6:08pm
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Jun 14, 2013 6:09 PM
Crimson streak;1458038 wrote:The clippers are willing to trade Jordan and griffin to clear space for Paul and Howard. I'd give up TT Andy and the number 1 for both. Then draft bullock at 19 .

Pg- kyrie
Sg- waiters
Sf- bullock
Pf- griffin
C- Jordan

Bench- gee, Ellington, Livingston, zeller, Speights.

Easily a playoff team and probably a too 4 team in the east.
No. Please no Griffin. It's quite possible he's already peaked (college and 1st year in the league).

I'm not sure how many good years Andy has, but he's still been on the incline with production. TT has also shown that he could have a bright future with his play this year. (But then again, you always have to be wary about guys with good stats on bad teams, it can be deceptive.)

There just isn't anything about this that seems good to me. Maybe I'm just putting too much value on what we have. But I'm not high on Griffin.
Jun 14, 2013 6:09pm
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Jun 14, 2013 6:10 PM
Crimson streak;1458038 wrote:The clippers are willing to trade Jordan and griffin to clear space for Paul and Howard. I'd give up TT Andy and the number 1 for both. Then draft bullock at 19 .

Pg- kyrie
Sg- waiters
Sf- bullock
Pf- griffin
C- Jordan

Bench- gee, Ellington, Livingston, zeller, Speights.

Easily a playoff team and probably a too 4 team in the east.

Also that trade isn't possible. Cavs take back more then 10% in salary.
Jun 14, 2013 6:10pm
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Jun 14, 2013 6:11 PM
Fly4Fun;1458044 wrote:No. Please no Griffin. It's quite possible he's already peaked (college and 1st year in the league.

I'm not sure how many good years Andy has, but he's still been on the incline with production. TT has also shown that he could have a bright future with his play this year.

There just isn't anything about this that seems good to me.

No way he has already peaked. His post game and jumper will only get better. And he doesn't have to be the go to guy since we have kyrie. I think he would fit in perfect in Cleveland. Him and kyrie would be really fun to watch
Jun 14, 2013 6:11pm