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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Mar 8, 2013 10:45am
The NCAA approved a new rule yesterday that players who hit defenseless players above the shoulders will now be ejected. The previous 15-yard penalty will remain.
Thoughts? I personally hate all the sissy rules, and this is just taking it too far. There are already rules in place for using your helmet to tackle. That is good enough if enforced properly. My concern is that as often as they call it, it could impact games.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1557607-ncaa-approves-new-ejection-penalty-to-enforce-player-safety-in-college-football?hpt=hp_t3
Thoughts? I personally hate all the sissy rules, and this is just taking it too far. There are already rules in place for using your helmet to tackle. That is good enough if enforced properly. My concern is that as often as they call it, it could impact games.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1557607-ncaa-approves-new-ejection-penalty-to-enforce-player-safety-in-college-football?hpt=hp_t3
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 8, 2013 10:49am
If a player is going full speed and the receiver drops the ball a few seconds before the player hits him, how on earth can he stop his momentum to not hit him? Seems like a terrible rule to have. Players getting ejected for playing football basically.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Mar 8, 2013 10:56am
I don't like this at all.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 8, 2013 11:14am
I hate how the NFL now includes hits to receivers with the ball. I can see it when the receiver doesnt have the ball...and even at that some were bad calls becuase it is split second.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Mar 8, 2013 11:31am
There were some really bad ones this season in the NFL.
Two come to mind....Vernon Davis getting smacked, and I can't recall the other one. It was later in the season as well. Maybe Ed Reed?
I just don't know how this can be a penalty.
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Two come to mind....Vernon Davis getting smacked, and I can't recall the other one. It was later in the season as well. Maybe Ed Reed?
I just don't know how this can be a penalty.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 8, 2013 11:39am
yeah..there were a number of ones like that last year. Now if the ball was well over/underthrown, or he clearly didnt have the ball anymore/dropped it then yeah..maybe...but he has the ball. TOo many piss poor calls like this makes football players, and fans, mad. That is a great hit. That is a great play. As a defender that is what you do..hit the guy hard.Automatik;1402693 wrote:There were some really bad ones this season in the NFL.
Two come to mind....Vernon Davis getting smacked, and I can't recall the other one. It was later in the season as well. Maybe Ed Reed?
I just don't know how this can be a penalty.
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hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Mar 8, 2013 11:43am
They better review each and every one.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 8, 2013 12:05pm
SMH.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Mar 8, 2013 12:15pm
Just put flags on them. Fucking christ.
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ou1980
Posts: 877
Mar 8, 2013 12:41pm
All this is about lawsuits. Roger Goodell can't sleep at night thinking of the day (and its coming) when a player dies on the field. College is just following suit.
ESPN.com should have the article on Goodell saying this...
ESPN.com should have the article on Goodell saying this...
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Mar 8, 2013 1:22pm
I HATEE HATE HATE HATE when they call a Wr going up to catch the ball a defenseless player. When I think of defenseless players, I think of when Hines Ward would go head hunting on crack back blocks. Not a Wr or Te on a route. Unless the ball is CLEARLY like 20 feet over his head and hes pulled up but the defensive player hits him anyways.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Mar 8, 2013 1:53pm
A referee's interpretation of a rule resulting in a players' ejection? Don't like it. At all.
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Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Mar 8, 2013 2:43pm
If they are going to eject a player for this, there needs to be some kind of review process using the replay system.
It shouldn't be challengeable by a coach. But anytime this penalty is called an a player is "ejected" there should be an immediate review. The wrongful ejection of a player could have too big of an impact on a game if it isn't reviewable.
I don't think they should review hits though where no flag is thrown and 1 could have been, that might just slow down the pace of the game too much.
It shouldn't be challengeable by a coach. But anytime this penalty is called an a player is "ejected" there should be an immediate review. The wrongful ejection of a player could have too big of an impact on a game if it isn't reviewable.
I don't think they should review hits though where no flag is thrown and 1 could have been, that might just slow down the pace of the game too much.
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Mar 8, 2013 3:20pm
There's going to be in-game review, I thought I heard. Obviously they won't stop the game, but the incident would be reviewed during the game, perhaps, while the player sits out a few plays. Idk the specifics.Fly4Fun;1402798 wrote:If they are going to eject a player for this, there needs to be some kind of review process using the replay system.
It shouldn't be challengeable by a coach. But anytime this penalty is called an a player is "ejected" there should be an immediate review. The wrongful ejection of a player could have too big of an impact on a game if it isn't reviewable.
I don't think they should review hits though where no flag is thrown and 1 could have been, that might just slow down the pace of the game too much.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Mar 8, 2013 3:23pm
Just read the short article on ESPN which statesScarlet_Buckeye;1402807 wrote:There's going to be in-game review, I thought I heard. Obviously they won't stop the game, but the incident would be reviewed during the game, perhaps, while the player sits out a few plays. Idk the specifics.
The ejection portion of the penalty can be subject to a video review.
I don't think that sounds definitive enough. Can be subject to review? It should read will be reviewed, and I think they should do so immediately before continuing play as is done with the current replay system.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 8, 2013 4:03pm
Any ejections better be on very extreme plays...like the guy who makes the hit takes multiple steps AFTER the ball was dropped or well underthrown. Off the top of my head I am not sure if I recall a late hit that I think would warrant an ejection.
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the_system
Posts: 465
Mar 8, 2013 6:35pm
I've seen 3 'targeting a defenseless player' penalties on ONE drive in a college game last year. Can you imagine having 3 players from your favorite team's secondary ejected? Especially later in the year if there are others who are already injured. Teams will be putting in wide receivers as DBs just to get through a game.
It doesn't stop on defense either. I remember the Nebraska WR putting down the best block I've ever witnessed in a game last year. It sprung his teammate for a TD (not that it mattered) and he was flagged for something. Would this call for an ejection too?
http://deadspin.com/5964960/nebraskas-kenny-bell-delivered-the-best-legal-block-in-college-football-this-season-so-of-course-he-was-flagged-for-it
It doesn't stop on defense either. I remember the Nebraska WR putting down the best block I've ever witnessed in a game last year. It sprung his teammate for a TD (not that it mattered) and he was flagged for something. Would this call for an ejection too?
http://deadspin.com/5964960/nebraskas-kenny-bell-delivered-the-best-legal-block-in-college-football-this-season-so-of-course-he-was-flagged-for-it
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Sonofanump
Mar 8, 2013 11:35pm
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Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Mar 9, 2013 9:36am
I can see a suspension, not an ejection on the field however
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Mar 9, 2013 8:30pm
It's flat out a terrible rule. A wide receiver could change his plane after the defensive player has already gone for the hit, then be ejected for a hit to the head through no fault of his own. This has always been my problem with the rule.