Central District Coaches Poll #3 - 12/23/09

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Dad4Sports
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Dec 23, 2009 9:23am
From the Dispatch Sports Blog

http://blog.dispatch.com/highschools...ches_pol.shtml


Wrestling: District coaches polls

Division I

Top teams: 1. Pickerington North, 2. Teays Valley, 3. Marysville, 4. Hilliard Davidson, 5. Olentangy Liberty, 6. Grove City, 7. Hilliard Darby, 8. Dublin Coffman, 9. Westerville North, 10. Reynoldsburg.



Division II

Top teams: 1. Olentangy, 2. Jonathan Alder; 3. London; 4. Hartley; 5. Canal Winchester, 6. DeSales; 7. Hilliard Bradley; 8. Licking Valley, 9. Big Walnut, 10. Highland.


Top individuals: 103: 1. Fiorucci (Olentangy), 2. Price (Licking Heights), 3. Jenkins (Canal Winchester). 112: 1. Wilson (DeSales), 2. McHugh (Olentangy), 3. Blacka (Jonathan Alder). 119: 1. White (Big Walnut), 2. Parsons (Licking Valley); 3. Thompson (London). 125: 1. Hutchins (Canal Winchester), 2. Perez (London), 3. Caserta (Olentangy). 130: 1. Fusco (Hartley), 2. Santos (London); 3. Fosco (Olentangy). 135: 1. Wolfe (Licking Heights), 2. Shepard (Highland), 3. Rigney (Jonathan Alder) and Colvin (London). 140: 1. Strayer (Lakewood), 2. Napier (Whitehall), 3. Yant (Olentangy). 145: 1. Grandominico (Olentangy), 2. Rosch (Canal Winchester), 3. Higgins (Hilliard Bradley). 152: 1. Hetterscheidt (Olentangy), 2. Worley (Big Walnut), 3. Driscoll (Hilliard Bradley). 160: 1. Clark (Whitehall), 2. Harble (Licking Valley), 3. Silvers (London) and Riggs (Hilliard Bradley). 171: 1. Hazlett (London), 2. Zang (Hartley), 3. Riley (Jonathan Alder). 189: 1. Blankenship (Jonathan Alder), 2. Carius (London), 3. Burrell (DeSales) and Mitchell (Licking Valley). 215: 1. Brown (Big Walnut), 2. Jackson (Hartley), 3. Stinemetz (Olentangy). 285: 1. Schramm (London), 2. Settles (Hamilton Township), 3. Pressley (Canal Winchester).


Division III


Top teams: 1. West Jefferson, 2. Northmor; 3. Utica; 4. Heath; 5. Amanda-Clearcrek; 6. Cardington; 7. Ready; 8. Pleasant; 9. Newark Catholic; 10. Grandview.
Top individuals: 103: 1. Regoli (Bloom-Carroll), 2. Fields (Pleasant), 3. G.Feucht (West Jefferson). 112: 1. Carroll (Northmor), 2. Hall (Ready), 3. Hughes (West Jefferson). 119: 1. Heminger (Northmor), 2. Branham (West Jefferson), 3. Dilts (Fredericktown). 125: 1. Wheeler (Utica), 2. Ankrom (Bloom-Carroll), 3. Reichle (West Jefferson). 130: 1. Coulter (Cardington), 2. Corns (Amanda-Clearcreek), 3. Beltz (East Knox). 135: 1. Gualtieri (West Jefferson), 2. Barlow (Heath), 3. Martello (Ready). 140: 1. Blackwell (West Jefferson), 2. Robinson (Heath), 3. George (Cardington). 145: 1. Prather (West Jefferson), 2. Nelson (Newark Catholic), 3. Manillo (Grandview). 152: 1. Falk (Grandview), 2. Robinson (Johnstown), 3. Cummings (Cardington). 160: 1. J.Cochran (West Jefferson), 2. Wilson (Amanda-Clearcreek). 171: 1. Chenetski (Amanda-Clearcreek), 2. Garber (Newark Catholic), 3. Posey (Utica). 189: 1. Drumm (Heath), 2. Beatty (Ready), 3. Fultz (West Jefferson). 215: 1. Fabry (West Jefferson), 2. Miller (Amanda-Clearcreek), 3. Wright (Northmor). HVY.: 1. Setser (Northmor), 2. McAfee (Liberty Union), 3. Campbell (Mount Gilead).
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FXSTC12
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Dec 23, 2009 9:49am
Dad4sports - has Jenkins (canal) made 103 yet this year? He looked big the last time I saw him, and when him and Price (LH) square-off, it should be one to watch.
How is Conrad doing with his recovery? If I heard correctly, he should be about ready to compete. I'm looking forward to seeing him do battle this season also.
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Dad4Sports
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Dec 23, 2009 10:03am
I don't know why Jenkins continues to be listed.....he did not come out for wrestling this year.

Conrad Rosch returns to practice today on a limited basis. He will not be able to wrestle at Medina which I know is a great disappoint for him. He expects to be cleared to wrestle the Indians next event after the MIT...Marion-Elgin Tournament (Jan 15 & 16). IMO, it won't take him long to get back to speed....it seems longer, but basically he's only missed a little more than a month. With all the countless hours he spends on the mat in the off-season, one month shouldn't hurt him too much...
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Cthelites
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Dec 23, 2009 10:55am
Still no D1 individuals. Why?
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zambrown
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Dec 23, 2009 11:28am
Perhaps they are waiting until after the Holiday tourneys, like Cruiser?
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cruiser_96
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Dec 23, 2009 12:09pm
Cthelites... Early rankings make for illegitmate rankings, making for a less credible source over time.

Consider the above posts... A wrestler who did not even come out for wrestling is ranked!?!?!?! Sound bad to you? Now what happens when this ranker puts out that Kid X is #2. What is stopping the truly informed fan from stating, "Yeah, sort of like the kid who's NOT wrestling this year being top three."

Kirk Herbstreit said it best... When you do pre-season and pre-result rankings, it truly does does muddy the water for those who seek to rate talent based on talent.


I'll get individual results towards the beginning of next year. Trust me. Just waiting for the Holiday tournaments to filter some more.
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Dad4Sports
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Dec 23, 2009 1:18pm
zambrown wrote: Perhaps they are waiting until after the Holiday tourneys, like Cruiser?
"they" = Cruiser :)
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Cthelites
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Dec 23, 2009 5:05pm
cruiser_96 wrote: Cthelites... Early rankings make for illegitmate rankings, making for a less credible source over time.

Consider the above posts... A wrestler who did not even come out for wrestling is ranked!?!?!?! Sound bad to you? Now what happens when this ranker puts out that Kid X is #2. What is stopping the truly informed fan from stating, "Yeah, sort of like the kid who's NOT wrestling this year being top three."

Kirk Herbstreit said it best... When you do pre-season and pre-result rankings, it truly does does muddy the water for those who seek to rate talent based on talent.


I'll get individual results towards the beginning of next year. Trust me. Just waiting for the Holiday tournaments to filter some more.
I realize that but when you see both D2 and D3 for the past couple of weeks it just makes you want to see D1 even more lol.
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cruiser_96
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Dec 23, 2009 5:46pm
Well that great to here, because I keep looking at these names thinking, "At some point I have to pull the trigger!"

I'll say this... I can only put top 3 in the Dispatch but I would like to have some bubble guys, honorable mentions or guys in the hunt type of thing for this site. I've thought about teirs but so often, one group bleeds into the next, so I'll just list some extra guys that will make things interesting.

Cthelites: In honor of your desires, I would like you (and everyone else) to take a look at the 119 weight class. Not for help, but just to look at why top 3 can be an injustice to these hard working student athletes...

Names like...

McDougle (GL)
Swavely (GC)
DiSabato (HDav)
Boyd (MF) - if he doesn't drop
Forrider (M)
Hunter (PC)
Will (PN)
Nace (TV)
Kunzi (WM)

That's 9 deep and I haven't even gotten full line-ups for about 17 of the area high schools!!! NOT TOO MENTINO THE SW SECTIONAL!!!!!!!!!

It's going to be good, Cthelites... and it'll all be worth it. But just remember... If you don't expect too much, you won't be too let down! ;)
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snugglyhippo
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Dec 23, 2009 7:53pm
Kunzi, Disabato, Boyd...there, done. Next.
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cruiser_96
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Dec 23, 2009 10:27pm
Are you crazy!?!?!?! Besides, that's not what I was looking for - someone to rank them for me. I was just commenting that top 3 is for the Dispatch; top 5 or 7 are for freehuddle.com.
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Mat Shark
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Dec 23, 2009 11:32pm
Dad4Sports wrote: I don't know why Jenkins continues to be listed.....he did not come out for wrestling this year.
how do you know that?

is this another case of ranking a kid who has no results for this year and who has yet to wrestle?
didn't we have this discussion already?
do i need to say "B-O-G-U-S" again?
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USMCdevil05
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Dec 23, 2009 11:53pm
cruiser_96 wrote: Are you crazy!?!?!?! Besides, that's not what I was looking for - someone to rank them for me. I was just commenting that top 3 is for the Dispatch; top 5 or 7 are for freehuddle.com.
Cruiser,
I will sit patiently waiting! I know with all of this waiting you will have some amazing rankings! By the way, that was a great tournament you ran today! I love being home by 2pm!
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cruiser_96
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Dec 24, 2009 7:14am
The Class of '87 was alright. Alright......
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Cthelites
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Dec 24, 2009 11:16am
cruiser_96 wrote: Well that great to here, because I keep looking at these names thinking, "At some point I have to pull the trigger!"

I'll say this... I can only put top 3 in the Dispatch but I would like to have some bubble guys, honorable mentions or guys in the hunt type of thing for this site. I've thought about teirs but so often, one group bleeds into the next, so I'll just list some extra guys that will make things interesting.

Cthelites: In honor of your desires, I would like you (and everyone else) to take a look at the 119 weight class. Not for help, but just to look at why top 3 can be an injustice to these hard working student athletes...

Names like...

McDougle (GL)
Swavely (GC)
DiSabato (HDav)
Boyd (MF) - if he doesn't drop
Forrider (M)
Hunter (PC)
Will (PN)
Nace (TV)
Kunzi (WM)

That's 9 deep and I haven't even gotten full line-ups for about 17 of the area high schools!!! NOT TOO MENTINO THE SW SECTIONAL!!!!!!!!!

It's going to be good, Cthelites... and it'll all be worth it. But just remember... If you don't expect too much, you won't be too let down! ;)
I'll defer to the expert(you!) Cruiser. lol!
I still can't find that many individual results anywhere.
About the only ones I know of are Darbys and Canal's (thanks to Dad4)
and a few other that get posted. It is pretty frustrating in the internet age that ALL(not just the team) the results don't get posted somewhere???
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ontheline
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Dec 24, 2009 5:06pm
Cthelites wrote:
I'll defer to the expert(you!) Cruiser. lol!
I still can't find that many individual results anywhere.
About the only ones I know of are Darbys and Canal's (thanks to Dad4)
and a few other that get posted. It is pretty frustrating in the internet age that ALL(not just the team) the results don't get posted somewhere???
So, here is my suggestion....following the Troy Christian tournament, I approached the Tournament Director (or at least the dude that appeared to in charge of things) and said, "what are you going to do with these pool sheets now that the tournament is over? If your just going to toss them, then I would like to take them and post'em on the internet because people LOVE to read the results." He said, "sounds good to me, here you go!" (By the way...prior to the tournament (the "scouting the competition" phase) I couldn't find SQUAT about previous years Troy Christian tournaments.

Maybe it isn't always that easy and obviously it isn't always necessary since many tournaments (Ironman, Brecksville, MIT, James Horne, etc...) have on line brackets, but for those that don't, I would suggest trying to take matters into your own hands. We will all appreciate the effort.
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Varsityfan32
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Dec 24, 2009 7:41pm
Where are the Top D1 teams going for there Holiday Tournaments ?
Medina? Brecksville?
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cruiser_96
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Dec 24, 2009 8:12pm
varsityfan32: In the online Dispatch blog, this was posted...

Next week is holiday tournament time. Going to the Medina Invitational Tournament are Dublin Coffman, Hilliard Darby, Olentangy, Pickerington North, Watkins Memorial, Westerville North, Big Walnut, Canal Winchester, Licking Heights and Heath.

Those headed to the Brecksville Invitational are Hilliard Davidson, Marysville, Olentangy Liberty, Olentangy Orange, Pickerington Central, Reynoldsburg, DeSales and Teays Valley.

West Jefferson is hosting a 23-team invitational that includes Newark Catholic, Walnut Ridge, Granville, Westerville Central, Brookhaven, Circleville, Westfall, Dublin Jerome, West, Briggs and Worthington Christian.

Marion Harding has its classic that includes Hartley, Buckeye Valley, Dublin Jerome, Elgin, Groveport, Delaware, Mount Gilead, Pleasant, St. Charles, Thomas Worthington, Westerville Central, Westerville South and Worthington Kilbourne.

The Ready Winter Classic has Whitehall, Marion-Franklin, Madison Plains, Granville, Hamilton Township, Northland, Centerburg and Licking Heights.



How about that for some great wrestling , one-stop shop info!!! Nice work, J. Mac!!!
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USMCdevil05
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Dec 25, 2009 1:33am
cruiser_96 wrote: varsityfan32: In the online Dispatch blog, this was posted...

Next week is holiday tournament time. Going to the Medina Invitational Tournament are Dublin Coffman, Hilliard Darby, Olentangy, Pickerington North, Watkins Memorial, Westerville North, Big Walnut, Canal Winchester, Licking Heights and Heath.

Those headed to the Brecksville Invitational are Hilliard Davidson, Marysville, Olentangy Liberty, Olentangy Orange, Pickerington Central, Reynoldsburg, DeSales and Teays Valley.

West Jefferson is hosting a 23-team invitational that includes Newark Catholic, Walnut Ridge, Granville, Westerville Central, Brookhaven, Circleville, Westfall, Dublin Jerome, West, Briggs and Worthington Christian.

Marion Harding has its classic that includes Hartley, Buckeye Valley, Dublin Jerome, Elgin, Groveport, Delaware, Mount Gilead, Pleasant, St. Charles, Thomas Worthington, Westerville Central, Westerville South and Worthington Kilbourne.

The Ready Winter Classic has Whitehall, Marion-Franklin, Madison Plains, Granville, Hamilton Township, Northland, Centerburg and Licking Heights.



How about that for some great wrestling , one-stop shop info!!! Nice work, J. Mac!!!

You're the BOMB b!