
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Mar 4, 2013 1:26pm
These are four bubble teams; based on the below, which two deserve to get into the tournament?
Team A:
17-11 (9-7)
Overall SOS: 39
Non-conference SOS: 37
Road/Neutral Record vs RPI top 50: 0-2
Record vs RPI top 50: 2-3
Record vs RPI top 100: 8-9
Best 3 wins by RPI: #6, #40, #51
Bad losses (RPI 101+): 2 (@ #128, #128)
Team B:
18-9 (8-6)
Overall SOS: 70
Non-conference SOS: 73
Road/Neutral Record vs RPI top 50: 1-3
Record vs RPI top 50: 1-5
Record vs RPI top 100: 8-7
Best 3 wins by RPI: @ #45, #73, #78
Bad losses (RPI 101+): 2 (@ #105, @ #145)
Team C:
21-8 (9-5)
Overall SOS: 50
Non-conference SOS: 59
Road/Neutral Record vs RPI top 50: 1-3
Record vs RPI top 50: 3-3
Record vs RPI top 100: 9-5
Best 3 wins by RPI: #15, #28, #45
Bad losses (RPI 101+): 3 (#105, @ #109, @ #217)
Team D:
19-10 (9-7)
Overall SOS: 62
Non-conference SOS: 171
Road/Neutral Record vs RPI top 50: 0-6
Record vs RPI top 50: 2-7
Record vs RPI top 100: 5-8
Best 3 wins by RPI: #18, #22, #59
Bad losses (RPI 101+): 2 (@ #126, @ #224)
Team A:
17-11 (9-7)
Overall SOS: 39
Non-conference SOS: 37
Road/Neutral Record vs RPI top 50: 0-2
Record vs RPI top 50: 2-3
Record vs RPI top 100: 8-9
Best 3 wins by RPI: #6, #40, #51
Bad losses (RPI 101+): 2 (@ #128, #128)
Team B:
18-9 (8-6)
Overall SOS: 70
Non-conference SOS: 73
Road/Neutral Record vs RPI top 50: 1-3
Record vs RPI top 50: 1-5
Record vs RPI top 100: 8-7
Best 3 wins by RPI: @ #45, #73, #78
Bad losses (RPI 101+): 2 (@ #105, @ #145)
Team C:
21-8 (9-5)
Overall SOS: 50
Non-conference SOS: 59
Road/Neutral Record vs RPI top 50: 1-3
Record vs RPI top 50: 3-3
Record vs RPI top 100: 9-5
Best 3 wins by RPI: #15, #28, #45
Bad losses (RPI 101+): 3 (#105, @ #109, @ #217)
Team D:
19-10 (9-7)
Overall SOS: 62
Non-conference SOS: 171
Road/Neutral Record vs RPI top 50: 0-6
Record vs RPI top 50: 2-7
Record vs RPI top 100: 5-8
Best 3 wins by RPI: #18, #22, #59
Bad losses (RPI 101+): 2 (@ #126, @ #224)

Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Mar 4, 2013 1:38pm
B and C just looking it over real quick

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 4, 2013 1:43pm
Team C. That is the only one. Maybe team A, maybe.

Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Mar 4, 2013 1:51pm
At first glance I thought A and B, but after looking over it again I think A and C.
G
Gblock
Mar 4, 2013 2:16pm
A should get props for the SOS, it sets a good precedent to teams to play people. Team c after that

Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Mar 4, 2013 2:21pm
C
A
B
D
A
B
D
F
FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Mar 4, 2013 2:51pm
C seems to be the best. And and I would say D is the best of the rest.

Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Mar 4, 2013 3:22pm
C
A
D
B
C is the only one I'd be gung-ho about getting in.
A and D are both kind of okay for me, but A's overall SoS and having a win over RPI #6 puts them above D, who has two home wins over top 25 RPI teams, but a weak-ass non-conference schedule. The fact their overall SoS is #62 says they have a very good conference and they are 9-7 in it, which is a big positive, though.
B's main positive is a road win over a top 50 RPI team. But they're pretty blah aside from that.
A
D
B
C is the only one I'd be gung-ho about getting in.
A and D are both kind of okay for me, but A's overall SoS and having a win over RPI #6 puts them above D, who has two home wins over top 25 RPI teams, but a weak-ass non-conference schedule. The fact their overall SoS is #62 says they have a very good conference and they are 9-7 in it, which is a big positive, though.
B's main positive is a road win over a top 50 RPI team. But they're pretty blah aside from that.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 4, 2013 4:02pm
C is the only one I like.
But then Id go B.
But then Id go B.

gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Mar 4, 2013 5:06pm
Thanks for playing. Looks like you agree with the consensus to a point -
[sp]Team C, the team you all like, is Temple, and while a bubble team, they seem a pretty good pick to make the tournament.
Team A is Tennessee (in Jerry Palm's latest bracket)
Team B is Massachusetts (in Jerry Palm's latest bracket)
Team D is Iowa State (last four out)[/sp]
[sp]Team C, the team you all like, is Temple, and while a bubble team, they seem a pretty good pick to make the tournament.
Team A is Tennessee (in Jerry Palm's latest bracket)
Team B is Massachusetts (in Jerry Palm's latest bracket)
Team D is Iowa State (last four out)[/sp]

GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Mar 4, 2013 5:16pm
C should be in already. All the others have some work to do, but I like A moving forward.

GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Mar 4, 2013 5:21pm
Does ESPN use a different SOS formula? They've got Temple 51, Tennessee 26, UMass 75, and Iowa State 65.
In this case I'd move Tennessee in.
In this case I'd move Tennessee in.

gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Mar 4, 2013 5:30pm
Strange. I pulled my SOS from here http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/TENN/UMASS, which I think aligns with rpiforecast as well: http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.htmlGOONx19;1399977 wrote:Does ESPN use a different SOS formula? They've got Temple 51, Tennessee 26, UMass 75, and Iowa State 65.
In this case I'd move Tennessee in.

GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Mar 4, 2013 5:35pm
I honestly didn't know Tennessee was having a decent run as of late. Or UMass. And I assumed Iowa State was doing better. This year is going to be crazy.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 4, 2013 7:10pm
No to Tennessee. Trash team.

Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Mar 4, 2013 7:46pm
Finds out Tennessee is Team A.sleeper;1399810 wrote:Team C. That is the only one. Maybe team A, maybe.
lol..from "maybe" to "trash" and all it took was someone putting a name to the stats.sleeper;1400058 wrote:No to Tennessee. Trash team.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 4, 2013 8:17pm
If Tennessee played in the B1G, they'd finish behind Penn State. They are not good.