bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 27, 2013 11:06am
Moorhead City is surrounded by two Marine bases. Cherry Point MCAS and Camp Lejuene
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 27, 2013 1:08pm
I don't know what is more hilarious: The C-section part or the "drive to make life fair" part.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jan 27, 2013 1:11pm
I broke out laughing when he called Chicago safer for gun violence than...than anywhere! To be fair, he did admit he didn't know the statistics. Not knowing stuff seems to be a requirement for being a liberal.
I'm kind of surprised that got printed, to be honest. Obviously an editor with a sense of humor that knew it was too good to pass-up
I'm kind of surprised that got printed, to be honest. Obviously an editor with a sense of humor that knew it was too good to pass-up
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Jan 27, 2013 1:14pm
I would say that might be the dumbest, least informed human being on Earth, but I bet close to half of the electorate is just as ignorant.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jan 27, 2013 2:21pm
Very true. I'd be curious to see how many people would agree with his definition of "natural born citizen".Cleveland Buck;1375545 wrote:I would say that might be the dumbest, least informed human being on Earth, but I bet close to half of the electorate is just as ignorant.
Amazing thing is it's reasonably well written, so the shear stupidity of some of the statements is surprising.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 27, 2013 6:08pm
51%-52% or so actually.but I bet close to half of the electorate is just as ignorant.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Jan 27, 2013 8:07pm
I spit my Mountain Dew out my nose when I read the c-section part.
Curly J
Posts: 7,282
Jan 27, 2013 8:59pm
Not surprised this Moran voted for Obama. Seems like an educated voter...sorry to hear my Daughter could never be Pres since she was born via C-Section. 
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jan 28, 2013 3:24am
I don't ...
... I just ...
... what the f*ck???
... I just ...
... what the f*ck???
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jan 28, 2013 5:29am
speechless
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jan 28, 2013 2:53pm
Sweet Jesus....I hope someone can prove that's fake, stat...otherwise all hope might really be lost.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 28, 2013 4:03pm
My little brother is a Marine stationed at Cherry Point. This was jn the New Bern paper which is his local paper. He sent it to me.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Jan 28, 2013 4:14pm
"Natural born"= no C-section, no petosin, and no epidural . . . lol.
Anyone seeking the office of president must have a mom that is tough as nails. :laugh:
Anyone seeking the office of president must have a mom that is tough as nails. :laugh:
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Jan 28, 2013 4:33pm
THere are idiotic democrats and republicans. But this goes beyond any of that. My gut tells me that this letter was written as a gag by someone who was trying to make a point. No way to prove that, but that's me guess.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Jan 28, 2013 4:49pm
You just can't believe someone would be this drunk on Democrat Kool Aid, can you? Have you seen the Obamaphone video from last Fall? Have you seen the "Obamamoney" video from Detroit? Have you ever seen Al Sharpton or Ed Schulz rant incoherently? Certainly you know the Kool Aid is strong.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1376311 wrote:THere are idiotic democrats and republicans. But this goes beyond any of that. My gut tells me that this letter was written as a gag by someone who was trying to make a point. No way to prove that, but that's me guess.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jan 28, 2013 7:06pm
That is just epic.
I got a huge laugh at reading it.
I got a huge laugh at reading it.
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Jan 28, 2013 7:42pm
Well...just to point out...under Justice Scalia's theory textualist/originalist constitutional jurisprudence wherein you ought to infer the meaning of the words in the Constitution based upon their plain language meaning at the time they were written...you might argue that "natural born" did not include C-section's since they weren't performed until 1881 under that theory.jhay78;1376304 wrote:"Natural born"= no C-section, no petosin, and no epidural . . . lol.
Anyone seeking the office of president must have a mom that is tough as nails. :laugh:
It's not totally outrageous...
I actually find it kind of interesting.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 28, 2013 7:45pm
The problem is arguing that the term meant something a hundred years from being invented.BoatShoes;1376435 wrote:Well...just to point out...under Justice Scalia's theory textualist/originalist constitutional jurisprudence wherein you ought to infer the meaning of the words in the Constitution based upon their plain language meaning at the time they were written...you might argue that "natural born" did not include C-section's since they weren't performed until 1881 under that theory.
It's not totally outrageous...
I actually find it kind of interesting.
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Jan 28, 2013 8:04pm
Well I agree there may be some problems with it but that is Scalia's whole jurisprudence right? He interprets the constitution based upon the following principle; "it's what did the words mean to the people who ratified the bill of rights or who ratified the Constitution."queencitybuckeye;1376437 wrote:The problem is arguing that the term meant something a hundred years from being invented.
I don't really agree but I do find it interesting that a person being rejected as an obvious liberal to be dismissed out of hand is basically articulating something that may follow from that particular method of constitutional interpretation that is promoted by a famous Conservative jurist.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Jan 28, 2013 8:40pm
And what was meant by those who ratified was not a method of giving birth. Its geographical location or within the jurisdiction of the US. Determines natural citizens by birth with no legal process necessary to attain it. "Naturalized" for those born outside the boundaries or jurisdiction of the US who had to go through a legal process to be granted citizenship. That was the intent of the founders.BoatShoes;1376446 wrote:Well I agree there may be some problems with it but that is Scalia's whole jurisprudence right? He interprets the constitution based upon the following principle; "it's what did the words mean to the people who ratified the bill of rights or who ratified the Constitution."
You're trying to twist an "Originalist" interpretation as something ridiculous. When in now way shape or form could anyone come to this conclusion by using it. The dude that wrote the article is not very bright.BoatShoes;1376446 wrote:I don't really agree but I do find it interesting that a person being rejected as an obvious liberal to be dismissed out of hand is basically articulating something that may follow from that particular method of constitutional interpretation that is promoted by a famous Conservative jurist.
pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Jan 28, 2013 8:47pm
I think any chance of this guy being smart enough to come to the ignorant conclusion you have come up with went out the window when he mentioned Chicago a safe city and the constitution being written a 100 years ago.BoatShoes;1376446 wrote:Well I agree there may be some problems with it but that is Scalia's whole jurisprudence right? He interprets the constitution based upon the following principle; "it's what did the words mean to the people who ratified the bill of rights or who ratified the Constitution."
I don't really agree but I do find it interesting that a person being rejected as an obvious liberal to be dismissed out of hand is basically articulating something that may follow from that particular method of constitutional interpretation that is promoted by a famous Conservative jurist.
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fan_from_texas
Posts: 2,693
Jan 28, 2013 8:52pm
This has got to be fake, right?
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jan 28, 2013 8:56pm
LOL. I actually did laugh out loud there. Good play ole boy.HitsRus;1375727 wrote:51%-52% or so actually.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jan 28, 2013 9:01pm
Well said. This was a plant...a sandbagger if you will. Probably written by one with the political views of Quaker Oats.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1376311 wrote:THere are idiotic democrats and republicans. But this goes beyond any of that. My gut tells me that this letter was written as a gag by someone who was trying to make a point. No way to prove that, but that's me guess.
And I'm sure there are some that believe Obama was birthed through the anus.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jan 28, 2013 9:11pm
That would certainly be unnaturally born.Footwedge;1376496 wrote:Well said. This was a plant...a sandbagger if you will. Probably written by one with the political views of Quaker Oats.
And I'm sure there are some that believe Obama was birthed through the anus.