Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Dec 22, 2009 2:28pm
1. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
2. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
3. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
4. Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
5. Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
6. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
7. Joe Haden, CB, Florida
8. Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
9. Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
10. Brian Price, DT, UCLA
11. Rolando McCain, LB, Alabama
12. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
13. Taylor Mays, S, USC
14. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
15. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
16. Everson Griffin, DE, USC
17. Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
18. Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
19. Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida
20. Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan
21. Sergio Kindle, LB, Texas
22. Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
23. Jerry Hughes, DE, TCU
24. Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri
25. Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State
2. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
3. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
4. Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
5. Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
6. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
7. Joe Haden, CB, Florida
8. Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
9. Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
10. Brian Price, DT, UCLA
11. Rolando McCain, LB, Alabama
12. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
13. Taylor Mays, S, USC
14. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
15. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
16. Everson Griffin, DE, USC
17. Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
18. Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
19. Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida
20. Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan
21. Sergio Kindle, LB, Texas
22. Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
23. Jerry Hughes, DE, TCU
24. Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri
25. Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 22, 2009 2:30pm
Jason Pierre-Paul has Raiders written all over him.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 22, 2009 2:59pm
Does he have a youtube video for Al Davis to watch?Mulva wrote: Jason Pierre-Paul has Raiders written all over him.
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charliehustle14
Posts: 2,224
Dec 22, 2009 3:02pm
Unfortunately, he does.
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charliehustle14
Posts: 2,224
Dec 22, 2009 3:06pm
I'm kinda glad to not see Heyward or Gibson on there....even though Kiper only ranks the top 25.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Dec 22, 2009 3:15pm
Looks like a pretty good list. I agree with Kiper, nobody from OSU deserves to be in the top 25. I'm a bit surprised to see Selvie not on it, but his teammate so high. I'm not that high on Everson's production in college.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 22, 2009 4:29pm
Funny. Clausen is the first QB he has on the list and Bradford is in the 2nd--Bradford also in the top 5 I might add. I seem to remember some dumbass people arguing with me about both of them, and seeing how Kiper's board is made up of what he hears straight from scouts--looks like I was right.
This board is bogus though, and is NOT his final board. No workouts yet, no combine...that list will look different by draft day.
This board is bogus though, and is NOT his final board. No workouts yet, no combine...that list will look different by draft day.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Dec 22, 2009 4:33pm
^^ yea ESPN.com listed this story as "Kiper's Final Big Board"
It's now listed as "The last big board of 2009 has arrived"
So yea
It's now listed as "The last big board of 2009 has arrived"
So yea
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 22, 2009 4:44pm
I mean it will probably be most of the same guys in close to the same order but it will be different I'm sure.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Dec 22, 2009 4:46pm
Both QBs are rated way too high, in my view.
Then again, teams love to reach for QBs, so he may not be that far off in where they get selected (as opposed to how good they really are...or aren't).
Then again, teams love to reach for QBs, so he may not be that far off in where they get selected (as opposed to how good they really are...or aren't).
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 22, 2009 4:54pm
May be. But the point is, I was right about both of them.Writerbuckeye wrote: Both QBs are rated way too high, in my view.
Then again, teams love to reach for QBs, so he may not be that far off in where they get selected (as opposed to how good they really are...or aren't).
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 22, 2009 4:56pm
I think Bradford is going to be a good NFL qb. I'm not really sold on any of the other ones.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 22, 2009 5:05pm
Strong defensive draft! Just what the Browns need!!
KnightXC1
Posts: 1,031
Dec 22, 2009 5:18pm
Suh would look great in Honolulu Blue and Silver next year in Detroit and I pray the Lions can get him or McCoy from Oklahoma.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 22, 2009 5:26pm
These meaningless late season wins the Browns are notorious for doing have done nothing but cost them a likely shot at a true difference maker like Berry or Suh.
That KC win is probably the going to leave them picking 5th again, and while you can certainly still get a solid player there they needed someone like Berry to be the Ed Reed/Polamualu of that defense and he will be off the board most likely.
That KC win is probably the going to leave them picking 5th again, and while you can certainly still get a solid player there they needed someone like Berry to be the Ed Reed/Polamualu of that defense and he will be off the board most likely.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Dec 22, 2009 5:59pm
SQ- You aren't right about anything yet. They still have yet to be drafted. Scouts say a lot of things. The moment of truth during a draft says the most. We've seen QB's drop when projected very high. It could happen again. I don't see it happening with both of those guys mentioned above, but it's possible.
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King Curtis
Posts: 391
Dec 22, 2009 6:11pm
If the draft goes in that order (it never does) and Cleveland gets the 5th pick, they will be mental midgets to not draft Haden.
Aaron Hernandez's stock has really risen here the last 2 months.
Aaron Hernandez's stock has really risen here the last 2 months.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Dec 22, 2009 6:13pm
You have to think that neither Suh or Berry will be the #1 selection. The Rams may be looking for their franchise QB.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Dec 22, 2009 6:16pm
The Rams do need a QB. Definitely a decision that needs a lot of thought.
Haden is a good player, but no ways do you draft him with #5. I think they would be mental midgets TO draft him. Hernandez is a good player, but he doesn't even get a thought at #5. Not sure if you were implying that.
Haden is a good player, but no ways do you draft him with #5. I think they would be mental midgets TO draft him. Hernandez is a good player, but he doesn't even get a thought at #5. Not sure if you were implying that.
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King Curtis
Posts: 391
Dec 22, 2009 6:17pm
Waste it on another QB or Tackle, that makes sense.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Dec 22, 2009 6:21pm
It's only a waste if they don't amount to shit, just like every position.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Dec 22, 2009 6:23pm
Waste it on a Pro Bowl Tackle like Thomas???
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Dec 22, 2009 6:39pm
SQ_Crazies wrote: Funny. Clausen is the first QB he has on the list and Bradford is in the 2nd--Bradford also in the top 5 I might add. I seem to remember some dumbass people arguing with me about both of them, and seeing how Kiper's board is made up of what he hears straight from scouts--looks like I was right.
SQ_Crazies wrote:May be. But the point is, I was right about both of them.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 22, 2009 7:02pm
Thank you. Got any milk? 2% please.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Dec 22, 2009 7:17pm
If St. Louis wants a QB they should trade down..
Clausen and Bradford are great talents, but I wouldn't want to pay them #1 pick money.
Clausen and Bradford are great talents, but I wouldn't want to pay them #1 pick money.