Poll: Greatest Manager in Baseball History

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HitsRus
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Jan 26, 2013 10:26am
Posting this a few days late (was on vacation when Earl Weaver died)....but Earl was the #1 managerial favorite of mine. Iam an unabashed, unapologetic Cleveland homer, so to admit that is no small matter. Earl was not only a great manager, compiling a career .600 winning percentage, but a great showman, and he ALWAYS protected his players. I was on hand at Cleveland stadium when he ripped up the rulebook. :laugh:....They don't make them like they used to.


Greatest manager of all time....let's hear it.
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wes_mantooth
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Jan 26, 2013 10:30am
that is a tough one since I am not much of a historian with managers....but I will agree with Earl.

I think some of these guys like Torre are so overrated because the ridiculous amount of they had around them.
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gerb131
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Jan 26, 2013 11:16am
Bobby Cox would be #1 had he won more World Series or Lou Pinella or Sparky Anderson.
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HitsRus
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Jan 26, 2013 11:26am
Cox and Sparky should have been added to the poll (total brain fart on my part)

Feel free to write them in.
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GOONx19
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Jan 26, 2013 6:47pm
Just saw this gem. Lol, NSFW.

[video=youtube;rpS-XFXxJvE][/video]
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hasbeen
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Jan 26, 2013 9:17pm
I love me some Lou Pinella
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wildcats20
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Jan 26, 2013 9:28pm
No love for Torre?


But clearly we all know it's Dusty.
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Footwedge
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Jan 26, 2013 9:34pm
Wedge.../thread.
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Jan 26, 2013 10:19pm
wildcats20;1375330 wrote:No love for Torre?


But clearly we all know it's Dusty.
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like_that
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Jan 27, 2013 10:21am
GOONx19;1375275 wrote:Just saw this gem. Lol, NSFW.

[video=youtube;rpS-XFXxJvE][/video]
This video always brings the lulz for me. I love how the ump is just waiting to throw him out, and the way he throws him out is hilarious. Also, if you notice, this all happened during the top of the FIRST inning. LOL.
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Jan 27, 2013 6:17pm
wes_mantooth;1375040 wrote:that is a tough one since I am not much of a historian with managers....but I will agree with Earl.

I think some of these guys like Torre are so overrated because the ridiculous amount of they had around them.
Look at post-Torre yanks. Same talent level, less bling. He had to manage games and egos.
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HitsRus
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Jan 27, 2013 6:27pm
Earl is the only manager to ever get tossed in both games of a double header, I believe.

Weaver was a staunch advocate of the long ball and his success probably went a long way in setting the trend for teams to deemphasize a player's strike outs so long as the hitter drove in runs.
Weaver's philosophy was pitching, defense and the three run homer. He disdained traditional baseball strategy of small ball and moving runners for a game of patience.... "if you play for one run...that is all you are going to get."
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Sonofanump
Jan 28, 2013 1:24am
I'd go Walter Alston.
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Jan 28, 2013 9:37am
Lou Brown

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Footwedge
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Jan 28, 2013 12:38pm
HitsRus;1375740 wrote:Earl is the only manager to ever get tossed in both games of a double header, I believe.

Weaver was a staunch advocate of the long ball and his success probably went a long way in setting the trend for teams to deemphasize a player's strike outs so long as the hitter drove in runs.
Weaver's philosophy was pitching, defense and the three run homer. He disdained traditional baseball strategy of small ball and moving runners for a game of patience.... "if you play for one run...that is all you are going to get."
I agree with all of this Hits. Earl was a managerial renegade and was in fact the first to spit on the baseball Bible. Now, with the advancement of computers and data, it is proven statistical faxct that bunting runners over is a losing proposition.

Examples that are not opinions....but facts.

A man on first with no outs has a better chance to score than a man on second with one out. A man on second with no outs has a better chance to score than a man on third with one out.

Earl figured this out.

In '69, the miracle Mets upset the Orioles winning in 5 games to which Earl replied, "the best damn team in baseball lost". And he was correct.

Same thing happened to the Cavs when they lost to the Magic a few years ago.
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Footwedge
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Jan 28, 2013 12:40pm
Sonofanump;1375926 wrote:I'd go Walter Alston.
Good choice. I like the Torre selection too. And for the "who, what, why" pick....Miller Huggins.
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hasbeen
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Jan 28, 2013 1:42pm
Footwedge;1376154 wrote:I agree with all of this Hits. Earl was a managerial renegade and was in fact the first to spit on the baseball Bible. Now, with the advancement of computers and data, it is proven statistical faxct that bunting runners over is a losing proposition.

Examples that are not opinions....but facts.

A man on first with no outs has a better chance to score than a man on second with one out. A man on second with no outs has a better chance to score than a man on third with one out.

Earl figured this out.
This is correct.
Small ball has its place in certain situations. Runner on first and a slumping hitter up. Runner on first and a third basemen who's struggling. etc etc
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Laley23
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Jan 28, 2013 2:42pm
Earl Weaver, cause like me, he says "Fuck bunting."
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cat_lover
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Feb 1, 2013 1:32pm
Sparky Anderson. He won the World Series with two organizations. He had to manage the egos of the Reds and then he wins the World Series with the Tigers. The Tigers were a different type of team than the Reds. He showed the ability to adapt to changes.