Devils Advocate
Posts: 4,539
Jan 18, 2013 6:28am
The best way to win a gun fight is with a gun. Everybody needs more and bigger guns.
If you can point a rifle with a 5,432 round clip, you should be able to.
If you can point a rifle with a 5,432 round clip, you should be able to.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jan 18, 2013 6:43am
The best way to trample on our Constitutional rights is with executive orders. Everybody needs more and bigger gun control laws.
If you can write 5,432 more pages of gun control laws on top of the library of pre-existing local, state, and federal gun control laws, you should be able to.
If you can write 5,432 more pages of gun control laws on top of the library of pre-existing local, state, and federal gun control laws, you should be able to.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 18, 2013 8:59am
Magazine, not clip.Devils Advocate;1368877 wrote:The best way to win a gun fight is with a gun. Everybody needs more and bigger guns.
If you can point a rifle with a 5,432 round clip, you should be able to.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jan 18, 2013 9:34am
Man, why not go back to the 1920s, and let's make legal Tommy guns, and BARs.
That way I can really keep those feds at bay.....
Oh, and why stop at guns, let's also make grenades, RPGs legal too so I can shoot down those black helicopters that will be taking my guns away.
That way I can really keep those feds at bay.....
Oh, and why stop at guns, let's also make grenades, RPGs legal too so I can shoot down those black helicopters that will be taking my guns away.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 18, 2013 9:36am
Total number of criminals that obeyed current laws: 0
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jan 18, 2013 9:54am
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jan 18, 2013 9:56am
The difference between a magazine and clip is that a magazine has some type of mechanic within that loads the round into the weapon chamber (spring or pressure). The term magazine or clip is distorted because some think that if you can remove it from the weapon they loosely use the term clip. Removal has nothing to do with the differences between the two.
Bottom line is both are removable and both move a round into position to be loaded into the chamber.
see pi and have a better understanding of mag or clip
Bottom line is both are removable and both move a round into position to be loaded into the chamber.
see pi and have a better understanding of mag or clip
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jan 18, 2013 9:58am
But, but, think of the CHILDREN.
Not Obama's kids, because they go to a school with armed guards.
What?!? How DARE you use Obama's children to further your political point. Random dead white kids are fine, but not Obama's kids. That's disgusting.
Not Obama's kids, because they go to a school with armed guards.
What?!? How DARE you use Obama's children to further your political point. Random dead white kids are fine, but not Obama's kids. That's disgusting.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 18, 2013 10:12am
We should make everything legal then. No laws!queencitybuckeye;1368985 wrote:Total number of criminals that obeyed current laws: 0
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jan 18, 2013 10:14am
Want to stop school shooting, why don't we arm the kids?FatHobbit;1369003 wrote:But, but, think of the CHILDREN.
Not Obama's kids, because they go to a school with armed guards.
What?!? How DARE you use Obama's children to further your political point. Random dead white kids are fine, but not Obama's kids. That's disgusting.
Hell, Africa does it.
Why stop there, let's have national gun training days at ranges for kids and arm all kids with guns.
That will stop the shootings.
No one wants to mess with a spunky 5 year old packing.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 18, 2013 10:20am
No guns nor laws will stop the shootings....certainly not the recent Executive Orders signed.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 18, 2013 10:26am
Would it charge how you behave? Wouldn't for the vast majority.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369015 wrote:We should make everything legal then. No laws!
If someone commits a crime against me, I want them to be punished. Do I dream that the laws that do that will keep them from committing those crimes? Of course not.
Deterrence should be the absolute last motivation for passing laws. We have enough history to know better.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 18, 2013 10:50am
every law thats ever been passed in the existance of this world was passed to deter people from doing it.queencitybuckeye;1369024 wrote:Would it charge how you behave? Wouldn't for the vast majority.
If someone commits a crime against me, I want them to be punished. Do I dream that the laws that do that will keep them from committing those crimes? Of course not.
Deterrence should be the absolute last motivation for passing laws. We have enough history to know better.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 18, 2013 10:52am
Of course. But it's already illegal to kill someone so Obama pretending that banning guns is going to stop being from killing each other is stupid. The guy is incompetent, but because he has a D next to his name you'll continue riding his ****.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369048 wrote:every law thats ever been passed in the existance of this world was passed to deter people from doing it.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 18, 2013 10:58am
How's it worked out so far?ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369048 wrote:every law thats ever been passed in the existance of this world was passed to deter people from doing it.
Your statement is incorrect without including "in part" or equivalent.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 18, 2013 10:59am
sleeper;1369052 wrote:Of course. But it's already illegal to kill someone so Obama pretending that banning guns is going to stop being from killing each other is stupid. The guy is incompetent, but because he has a D next to his name you'll continue riding his ****.
People are going to break any law no matter what it is. We should just get rid of laws since we shouldn't use them as a deterrance.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 18, 2013 11:02am
No, the punishment aspect is worthwhile on its own.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369058 wrote:People are going to break any law no matter what it is. We should just get rid of laws since we shouldn't use them as a deterrance.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 18, 2013 11:04am
If this were true there would be no repeat offendersqueencitybuckeye;1369060 wrote:No, the punishment aspect is worthwhile on its own.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 18, 2013 11:05am
If there is no law, then how are they going to be punished? That is the purpose of a law; deterrence is only a side effect.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369058 wrote:People are going to break any law no matter what it is. We should just get rid of laws since we shouldn't use them as a deterrance.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 18, 2013 11:06am
Not necessarily. The punishment isn't supposed to be a deterrent as much as punishment equal to the offense.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369062 wrote:If this were true there would be no repeat offenders
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 18, 2013 11:06am
So someone is arrested and are caught in possession of a firearm with an illegal magazine.. are they going to be arrested an punished?sleeper;1369064 wrote:If there is no law, then how are they going to be punished? That is the purpose of a law; deterrence is only a side effect.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 18, 2013 11:06am
Very well put.sleeper;1369064 wrote:If there is no law, then how are they going to be punished? That is the purpose of a law; deterrence is only a side effect.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 18, 2013 11:07am
I would hope so. I can't think of someone caught breaking the law when they are not punished with some type of fine, probation or jail.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369068 wrote:So someone is arrested and are caught in possession of a firearm with an illegal magazine.. are they going to be arrested an punished?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 18, 2013 11:09am
Hopefully punished.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369068 wrote:So someone is arrested and are caught in possession of a firearm with an illegal magazine.. are they going to be arrested an punished?
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jan 18, 2013 11:10am
Plenty of celebs and politicians get off with a slap on the wrist.Con_Alma;1369071 wrote:I would hope so. I can't think of someone caught breaking the law when they are not punished with some type of fine, probation or jail.