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Jan 18, 2013 6:28 AM
The best way to win a gun fight is with a gun. Everybody needs more and bigger guns.

If you can point a rifle with a 5,432 round clip, you should be able to.
Jan 18, 2013 6:28am
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Jan 18, 2013 6:43 AM
The best way to trample on our Constitutional rights is with executive orders. Everybody needs more and bigger gun control laws.

If you can write 5,432 more pages of gun control laws on top of the library of pre-existing local, state, and federal gun control laws, you should be able to.
Jan 18, 2013 6:43am
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Jan 18, 2013 8:59 AM
Devils Advocate;1368877 wrote:The best way to win a gun fight is with a gun. Everybody needs more and bigger guns.

If you can point a rifle with a 5,432 round clip, you should be able to.
Magazine, not clip.
Jan 18, 2013 8:59am
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Jan 18, 2013 9:34 AM
Man, why not go back to the 1920s, and let's make legal Tommy guns, and BARs.
That way I can really keep those feds at bay.....

Oh, and why stop at guns, let's also make grenades, RPGs legal too so I can shoot down those black helicopters that will be taking my guns away.
Jan 18, 2013 9:34am
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queencitybuckeye

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Jan 18, 2013 9:36 AM
Total number of criminals that obeyed current laws: 0
Jan 18, 2013 9:36am
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Jan 18, 2013 9:54 AM
Jan 18, 2013 9:54am
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Jan 18, 2013 9:56 AM
The difference between a magazine and clip is that a magazine has some type of mechanic within that loads the round into the weapon chamber (spring or pressure). The term magazine or clip is distorted because some think that if you can remove it from the weapon they loosely use the term clip. Removal has nothing to do with the differences between the two.

Bottom line is both are removable and both move a round into position to be loaded into the chamber.

see pi and have a better understanding of mag or clip

Jan 18, 2013 9:56am
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Jan 18, 2013 9:58 AM
But, but, think of the CHILDREN.

Not Obama's kids, because they go to a school with armed guards.

What?!? How DARE you use Obama's children to further your political point. Random dead white kids are fine, but not Obama's kids. That's disgusting.
Jan 18, 2013 9:58am
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Jan 18, 2013 10:12 AM
queencitybuckeye;1368985 wrote:Total number of criminals that obeyed current laws: 0
We should make everything legal then. No laws!
Jan 18, 2013 10:12am
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Jan 18, 2013 10:14 AM
FatHobbit;1369003 wrote:But, but, think of the CHILDREN.

Not Obama's kids, because they go to a school with armed guards.

What?!? How DARE you use Obama's children to further your political point. Random dead white kids are fine, but not Obama's kids. That's disgusting.
Want to stop school shooting, why don't we arm the kids?
Hell, Africa does it.
Why stop there, let's have national gun training days at ranges for kids and arm all kids with guns.
That will stop the shootings.
No one wants to mess with a spunky 5 year old packing.
Jan 18, 2013 10:14am
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Con_Alma

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Jan 18, 2013 10:20 AM
No guns nor laws will stop the shootings....certainly not the recent Executive Orders signed.
Jan 18, 2013 10:20am
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queencitybuckeye

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Jan 18, 2013 10:26 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369015 wrote:We should make everything legal then. No laws!
Would it charge how you behave? Wouldn't for the vast majority.

If someone commits a crime against me, I want them to be punished. Do I dream that the laws that do that will keep them from committing those crimes? Of course not.

Deterrence should be the absolute last motivation for passing laws. We have enough history to know better.
Jan 18, 2013 10:26am
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Jan 18, 2013 10:50 AM
queencitybuckeye;1369024 wrote:Would it charge how you behave? Wouldn't for the vast majority.

If someone commits a crime against me, I want them to be punished. Do I dream that the laws that do that will keep them from committing those crimes? Of course not.

Deterrence should be the absolute last motivation for passing laws. We have enough history to know better.
every law thats ever been passed in the existance of this world was passed to deter people from doing it.
Jan 18, 2013 10:50am
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Jan 18, 2013 10:52 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369048 wrote:every law thats ever been passed in the existance of this world was passed to deter people from doing it.
Of course. But it's already illegal to kill someone so Obama pretending that banning guns is going to stop being from killing each other is stupid. The guy is incompetent, but because he has a D next to his name you'll continue riding his ****.
Jan 18, 2013 10:52am
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Jan 18, 2013 10:58 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369048 wrote:every law thats ever been passed in the existance of this world was passed to deter people from doing it.
How's it worked out so far?

Your statement is incorrect without including "in part" or equivalent.
Jan 18, 2013 10:58am
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Jan 18, 2013 10:59 AM
sleeper;1369052 wrote:Of course. But it's already illegal to kill someone so Obama pretending that banning guns is going to stop being from killing each other is stupid. The guy is incompetent, but because he has a D next to his name you'll continue riding his ****.

People are going to break any law no matter what it is. We should just get rid of laws since we shouldn't use them as a deterrance.
Jan 18, 2013 10:59am
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Jan 18, 2013 11:02 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369058 wrote:People are going to break any law no matter what it is. We should just get rid of laws since we shouldn't use them as a deterrance.
No, the punishment aspect is worthwhile on its own.
Jan 18, 2013 11:02am
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Jan 18, 2013 11:04 AM
queencitybuckeye;1369060 wrote:No, the punishment aspect is worthwhile on its own.
If this were true there would be no repeat offenders
Jan 18, 2013 11:04am
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Jan 18, 2013 11:05 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369058 wrote:People are going to break any law no matter what it is. We should just get rid of laws since we shouldn't use them as a deterrance.
If there is no law, then how are they going to be punished? That is the purpose of a law; deterrence is only a side effect.
Jan 18, 2013 11:05am
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Jan 18, 2013 11:06 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369062 wrote:If this were true there would be no repeat offenders
Not necessarily. The punishment isn't supposed to be a deterrent as much as punishment equal to the offense.
Jan 18, 2013 11:06am
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Jan 18, 2013 11:06 AM
sleeper;1369064 wrote:If there is no law, then how are they going to be punished? That is the purpose of a law; deterrence is only a side effect.
So someone is arrested and are caught in possession of a firearm with an illegal magazine.. are they going to be arrested an punished?
Jan 18, 2013 11:06am
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Con_Alma

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Jan 18, 2013 11:06 AM
sleeper;1369064 wrote:If there is no law, then how are they going to be punished? That is the purpose of a law; deterrence is only a side effect.
Very well put.
Jan 18, 2013 11:06am
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Con_Alma

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Jan 18, 2013 11:07 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369068 wrote:So someone is arrested and are caught in possession of a firearm with an illegal magazine.. are they going to be arrested an punished?
I would hope so. I can't think of someone caught breaking the law when they are not punished with some type of fine, probation or jail.
Jan 18, 2013 11:07am
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Jan 18, 2013 11:09 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1369068 wrote:So someone is arrested and are caught in possession of a firearm with an illegal magazine.. are they going to be arrested an punished?
Hopefully punished. ;)
Jan 18, 2013 11:09am
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Jan 18, 2013 11:10 AM
Con_Alma;1369071 wrote:I would hope so. I can't think of someone caught breaking the law when they are not punished with some type of fine, probation or jail.
Plenty of celebs and politicians get off with a slap on the wrist.
Jan 18, 2013 11:10am