bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 15, 2013 11:18am
[video=youtube;Wx9GxXYKx_8][/video]
Discuss...I remember the day it happening seeing the assault rifle in the trunk of the car(picture) and then being told he used it by the medical examiner.
Discuss...I remember the day it happening seeing the assault rifle in the trunk of the car(picture) and then being told he used it by the medical examiner.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Jan 15, 2013 11:40am
Not bothering to watch, but another "the government was behind it to put gun control laws in place" video?
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Jan 15, 2013 11:53am
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 15, 2013 12:03pm
GoChiefs;1366581 wrote:Not bothering to watch, but another "the government was behind it to put gun control laws in place" video?
They certainly aren't wasting any time with those laws.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 15, 2013 12:50pm
19 executive orders coming tomorrow.
Watch the last 5 minutes if you don't want to waste your time with the whole thing.
Watch the last 5 minutes if you don't want to waste your time with the whole thing.
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Gblock
Jan 15, 2013 12:54pm
there is no possible way even the government could have kept this quiet for one hour or one day let alone three..
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jan 15, 2013 1:20pm
Are you fucking kidding me?bases_loaded;1366638 wrote:19 executive orders coming tomorrow.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jan 15, 2013 1:26pm
I don't think there are 19 executive orders. I think there is a 19 point plan. Some of it can be accomplished by executive order and some must be done through congress.ernest_t_bass;1366665 wrote:Are you fucking kidding me?
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 15, 2013 1:27pm
In the video he says there was a 2nd and 3rd shooter. But there's no evidence of that. Having a guy in a cop car and chasing a guy in the woods, doesn't make them shooters. So while we didnt find out who they were, this guys doing the exact same thing by saying they are shooters.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jan 15, 2013 1:31pm
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/biden-guns-executive-actions-86187.html?hp=f1ernest_t_bass;1366665 wrote:Are you fucking kidding me?
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 15, 2013 1:33pm
WHAT? The government lie or spin the truth? What a concept.....see Benghazi.
As for myself, I remember hearing those initial reports that an assault style weapon was found in his trunk (unused). Now, supposedly it was used in the shooting.
As for myself, I remember hearing those initial reports that an assault style weapon was found in his trunk (unused). Now, supposedly it was used in the shooting.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jan 15, 2013 1:33pm
Hmmm after more research it looks like I'm wrong. There are 19 possible (I would bet probable) executive actions.FatHobbit;1366671 wrote:I don't think there are 19 executive orders. I think there is a 19 point plan. Some of it can be accomplished by executive order and some must be done through congress.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/15/politics/gun-laws-battle/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Including demanding the agencies that are supposed to be providing info for background checks provide it and appointing a director to the ATF. (apparently they don't currently have one)
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jan 15, 2013 1:37pm
I'm curious, does anyone know how soon these executive orders take affect? I've seen 30 round magazines on craigslist. If he bans magazines over a certain capacity will it take affect immediately or will there be a grace period? What are you supposed to do with the magazines you currently have?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 15, 2013 1:48pm
So this guys does the right thing and is now getting harassed by conspiracy nutjobs.
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/15/this_man_helped_save_six_children_is_now_getting_harassed_for_it/
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/15/this_man_helped_save_six_children_is_now_getting_harassed_for_it/
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 15, 2013 3:16pm
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2518621#.UPW7XCc0V8E
Just in case anyone needs a reminder, he will surround himself with little kids tomorrow when making the announcement.
Just in case anyone needs a reminder, he will surround himself with little kids tomorrow when making the announcement.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jan 15, 2013 3:20pm
And the NRA is the group that uses fear tactics.bases_loaded;1366742 wrote:http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2518621#.UPW7XCc0V8E
Just in case anyone needs a reminder, he will surround himself with little kids tomorrow when making the announcement.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 15, 2013 3:24pm
How dare you! They are doing this for the children...not because they want to make it easier to take more without fear of rebellion! We arm rebels in other countries to help them get freedom, but take away arms in our own country.FatHobbit;1366747 wrote:And the NRA is the group that uses fear tactics.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jan 15, 2013 3:37pm
I love lamp
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Jan 15, 2013 3:37pm
Welcome to America. Where legal gun owners are treated like criminals.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 15, 2013 4:06pm
I'm not buying into any theories. Just amazed at how quickly things escalated with gun control.
The website and memorial fund thing was weird though.
The website and memorial fund thing was weird though.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Jan 15, 2013 4:18pm
The President of the United States has zero authority to unilaterally change policy that affects 2nd Amendment rights. Executive orders deal with the executive branch, which would involve the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, possibly another bureaucracy.
I'm sure the man has every intention of complying with the Constitution and all . . .
I'm sure the man has every intention of complying with the Constitution and all . . .
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 15, 2013 4:57pm
WebFire;1366695 wrote:So this guys does the right thing and is now getting harassed by conspiracy nutjobs.
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/15/this_man_helped_save_six_children_is_now_getting_harassed_for_it/
His story is all kinds of mixed up. Probably why he's being harassed.
Typical Obama half assing things.
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Jan 15, 2013 5:18pm
I have no idea what happened here, but the news isn't always the "end all be all" -
Let me get this straight, when an investigation or audit is done to a business or person, evidence is collected and forms ideas of what is the truth.
If you seek the truth pertaining to corruption of a government (while many governments for thousands of years have been caught) - your investigation is un-american and you are a weird conspiracy nut job.
I counter this claim and tell you this, it takes a greater act of courage and patriotism to step up to a system (any system) that is deceptive and tries to shield your eyes from the truth in an attemp to uncover it. A system so large and so used to 99% of it's population just walking sheep who just want to make 50k in life and don't care what happens to the constitution.
Let me get this straight, when an investigation or audit is done to a business or person, evidence is collected and forms ideas of what is the truth.
If you seek the truth pertaining to corruption of a government (while many governments for thousands of years have been caught) - your investigation is un-american and you are a weird conspiracy nut job.
I counter this claim and tell you this, it takes a greater act of courage and patriotism to step up to a system (any system) that is deceptive and tries to shield your eyes from the truth in an attemp to uncover it. A system so large and so used to 99% of it's population just walking sheep who just want to make 50k in life and don't care what happens to the constitution.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Jan 15, 2013 6:09pm
Like the little children just spontaneously on their own wrote letters to the president asking him to make them safe.bases_loaded;1366742 wrote:Just in case anyone needs a reminder, he will surround himself with little kids tomorrow when making the announcement.
More like...
"good morning boys and girls."
"Good morning Miss Smith.
"Did you all hear about the little boys and girls who were hurt by the bad man with the gun at school?"
"Yes Miss Smith."
"Get your pens and paper out and we are going to write a letter to President Obama asking him keep bad men from bringing guns to school."
Not a fan of using kids as political props.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 15, 2013 9:55pm
majorspark;1366795 wrote:Like the little children just spontaneously on their own wrote letters to the president asking him to make them safe.
More like...
"good morning boys and girls."
"Good morning Miss Smith.
"Did you all hear about the little boys and girls who were hurt by the bad man with the gun at school?"
"Yes Miss Smith."
"Get your pens and paper out and we are going to write a letter to President Obama asking him keep bad men from bringing guns to school."
Not a fan of using kids as political props.
Agree.