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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Dec 17, 2012 6:30pm
I am on my company insurance plan, for 2012 they deduct $200 out of each paycheck for insurance. For 2013 the cost is going up to $250 every paycheck.
I am thinking about looking for health insurance myself outside of the company. I am 23, wife is 24, and my son is 4 and we are not planning on having any more children within the next few years.
Some quick online quotes show that I can get health insurance for the family for much cheaper. I don't want to sacrifice quality to much, but we have never used the insurance outside of normal checkups and if I could save 2-3k I should do it.
Anybody have experience in getting health insurance outside of an employer? Advice on things I should look for?
I am thinking about looking for health insurance myself outside of the company. I am 23, wife is 24, and my son is 4 and we are not planning on having any more children within the next few years.
Some quick online quotes show that I can get health insurance for the family for much cheaper. I don't want to sacrifice quality to much, but we have never used the insurance outside of normal checkups and if I could save 2-3k I should do it.
Anybody have experience in getting health insurance outside of an employer? Advice on things I should look for?
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Dec 17, 2012 7:33pm
I would think the biggest things to look for are what network does the new insurance have and are your current drs in it, what is the deductible and what percentages does it pay.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 17, 2012 7:39pm
You won't be able to find a cheaper insurance plan than your company plan; I guarantee it.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Dec 17, 2012 7:40pm
Sounds to me like your not paying the whole premium and that your employer is subsidizing it as part of you compensation benefit.
If you expect to insure your family for less than $250 month nothing will be covered.
If you expect to insure your family for less than $250 month nothing will be covered.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 17, 2012 7:46pm
Pretty much this.sleeper;1345859 wrote:You won't be able to find a cheaper insurance plan than your company plan; I guarantee it.
To cover 3 people (even young ones) for less than $500 a month (I assume 2 paychecks a month at $250 each) with even a reasonable deductible is damn near impossible, much less if you want more than the absolute bare minimum covered.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 17, 2012 7:50pm
^^^ This. You probably aren't seeing all the numbers. Find out how much your employer is paying for you. We have a darn good plan where I am. I pay $247/mo, but my company pays 80% of the premium.
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James Gatz
Posts: 137
Dec 17, 2012 8:06pm
You're*Con_Alma;1345860 wrote:Sounds to me like your not paying the whole premium and that your employer is subsidizing it as part of you compensation benefit.
If you expect to insure your family for less than $250 month nothing will be covered.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Dec 17, 2012 8:08pm
My cost for health insurance only next year would be almost $6600 dollars, a $1200 dollar increase. I also know that are copays are increasing and are deductible's are increasing by a few thousand as well. If that's truly the best value for my family then so be it. For the coverage we need it just seems like we can find insurance for cheaper.Con_Alma;1345860 wrote:Sounds to me like your not paying the whole premium and that your employer is subsidizing it as part of you compensation benefit.
If you expect to insure your family for less than $250 month nothing will be covered.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Dec 17, 2012 8:14pm
I would bet you won't find it cheaper. Even a high deductible plan, $5,000 per person, is going to cots you more than $250 per month for the family.gport_tennis;1345873 wrote:My cost for health insurance only next year would be almost $6600 dollars, a $1200 dollar increase. I also know that are copays are increasing and are deductible's are increasing by a few thousand as well. If that's truly the best value for my family then so be it. For the coverage we need it just seems like we can find insurance for cheaper.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Dec 17, 2012 8:20pm
But will it cost me more than $540 a month? That's what I will be paying starting Jan 1st. Not including dental which is another $100 a month.Con_Alma;1345875 wrote:I would bet you won't find it cheaper. Even a high deductible plan, $5,000 per person, is going to cots you more than $250 per month for the family.
$5000 deductible is what I have now through the end of this year. It will increase Jan 1.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Dec 17, 2012 8:22pm
I'm guessing it will cost you more than $580 per month for a family. Yes. Is your deductible $5,000 for the family or per person?gport_tennis;1345878 wrote:But will it cost me more than $580 a month? That's what I will be paying starting Jan 1st. Not including dental which is another $100 a month.
$5000 deductible is what I have now through the end of this year. It will increase Jan 1.
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Shane Falco
Posts: 440
Dec 17, 2012 8:23pm
Your company insurance is required to carry maternity If you go out side of your company and buy your own policies .... you are not required to carry that...thats why its cheaper. If you knock her up your S.O.L!!! My wife and i did this for few years after we were done having kids. Remember at the end of the month you get a bill to pay... its not taken out of your check. Also something to think about. Lots of insurance companies now wont take a spouse if their place of employment offers insurance. So after a few years you decide to go back on your company insurance, they have to take you but not your wife if she can get insurance at her place of employment. She would have to take it at her work.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 17, 2012 8:29pm
Make sure when you're looking around pricing that you also price in prescription coverage, because to add it to your policy when buying individually it is often sold seperate.
Don't skimp in that area. All it takes is one good infection some how for you, your wife or child and the costs of some medicines would negate your entire savings on the premium for the year if you happen to find it cheaper.
Going it alone is fine, but make sure you have thought of every possible contingency because the worst thing in the world is finding out something you need isn't covered, and then all the sudden the financial flood gates open because just about everything medical related now a days costs a fortune.
Don't skimp in that area. All it takes is one good infection some how for you, your wife or child and the costs of some medicines would negate your entire savings on the premium for the year if you happen to find it cheaper.
Going it alone is fine, but make sure you have thought of every possible contingency because the worst thing in the world is finding out something you need isn't covered, and then all the sudden the financial flood gates open because just about everything medical related now a days costs a fortune.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Dec 17, 2012 8:31pm
Con_Alma;1345879 wrote:I'm guessing it will cost you more than $580 per month for a family. Yes. Is your deductible $5,000 for the family or per person?
Per person
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Dec 17, 2012 8:35pm
We carry the same level. I would caution you to read the entire contract thoroughly as stated above. Things you may not even be aware exist may or may not be covered. Be very cautious in your willingness to move forward.gport_tennis;1345885 wrote:Per person
Good luck to you in your search.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 17, 2012 8:46pm
$5,000 per. I assume $10,000 family? You are paying a lot (meaning your company is not covering as much as I've been lucky to have), but as cautioned above, research the hell out of your current plan and any plans you are considering.
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MontyBrunswick
Dec 17, 2012 8:50pm
I pay like $34 a paycheck because I'm single and have no kids.
AKA I'm a baller.
AKA I'm a baller.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 17, 2012 8:56pm
dlazz;1345911 wrote:I pay like $34 a paycheck because I'm single and have no kids.
AKA I'm a baller.
I pay $0 a paycheck for a family of 3.
AKA I'm a king?
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MontyBrunswick
Dec 17, 2012 8:56pm
Royalty doesn't watch NASCAR.GoChiefs;1345920 wrote:AKA I'm a king?
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 17, 2012 8:57pm
dlazz;1345921 wrote:Royalty doesn't watch NASCAR.
"The King" Richard Petty disagrees.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 17, 2012 8:58pm
Starting Jan 1 I pay $0 and have $90/mo put in an HSA by my company. Getting paid to have insurance.GoChiefs;1345920 wrote:I pay $0 a paycheck for a family of 3.
AKA I'm a king?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 17, 2012 9:02pm
Now there is a post I can endorse.ccrunner609;1345924 wrote:How do you like that insurance costs since Obamacare kicked in?
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 17, 2012 9:03pm
ccrunner609;1345924 wrote:How do you like that insurance costs since Obamacare kicked in?
:thumbup:
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MontyBrunswick
Dec 17, 2012 9:05pm
Healthcare has been rising steadily for the past 30 years. Obamacare isn't going to make it any less affordable than it was already going to become. The system is broken.
/the most political post I'll ever make.
/the most political post I'll ever make.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 17, 2012 9:09pm
Bought my own insurance through most of the last decade, and I can say definitively that 10-20% increases a year have been happening for almost a decade now, long before Obamacare.ccrunner609;1345924 wrote:How do you like that insurance costs since Obamacare kicked in?
Then again that's what happens when Americans are asked to supplement the cost of healthcare for the entire world. Since we are the only market that will pay whatever the asking price is, we pay for the profit margin they aren't making on the other 180+ countries in the world. It is the dirty little secret no one wants to talk about.