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Posts: 6,867
Nov 25, 2012 9:58pm
After the rough start, holy hell did he have a phenomenal year. Good chance he'll be a 1st Team AA, 1st Team B1G, and possibly B1G Defensive POTY if Simon doesn't get it.
-115 Tackles (70 solo, 45 assisted)
-17 TFL
-5 Sacks
-1 INT 1 TD
-10 PBU
-3 FF
-115 Tackles (70 solo, 45 assisted)
-17 TFL
-5 Sacks
-1 INT 1 TD
-10 PBU
-3 FF
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 25, 2012 10:02pm
Best in the nation.
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slingshot4ever
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Nov 25, 2012 10:04pm
I'm curious how Teo line matches up. I know Teo has him beat with INT
Pick6
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Nov 25, 2012 10:05pm
That's all T'eo has him beat in.slingshot4ever;1329186 wrote:I'm curious how Teo line matches up. I know Teo has him beat with INT
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 25, 2012 10:07pm
slingshot4ever;1329186 wrote:I'm curious how Teo line matches up. I know Teo has him beat with INT
And they also play different positions in different schemes. I would expect them not to match up. Kind of pointless to compare them really. A better comparison to shazier would be Jarvis jones
Pick6
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Nov 25, 2012 10:12pm
He has Jarvis Jones beat in every stat, I believe.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 25, 2012 10:14pm
He's the best LB in the country and its not even close.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 25, 2012 10:14pm
Pick6;1329195 wrote:He has Jarvis Jones beat in every stat, I believe.
He might, I think jones missed 2 games though
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vball10set
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Nov 25, 2012 10:15pm
Great linebacker on a good defense, he'll be a frontrunner for next year's Lombardi Award.
karen lotz
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Nov 25, 2012 10:19pm
Pick6;1329195 wrote:He has Jarvis Jones beat in every stat, I believe.
Jones
71 tackles
19.5 TFL
10.5 sacks
1 INT
2 PBU
6 forced fumbles
In 10 games
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Nov 25, 2012 10:27pm
Tough to compare a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 OLB. Like a 3-4 MLB to a 4-3 OLB.karen lotz;1329205 wrote:Jones
71 tackles
19.5 TFL
10.5 sacks
1 INT
2 PBU
6 forced fumbles
In 10 games
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Nov 25, 2012 10:35pm
End of Line;1329209 wrote:Tough to compare a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 OLB. Like a 3-4 MLB to a 4-3 OLB.
I actually didn't compare anyone. Pick said he thought Shazier had better numbers in every category. Do you have trouble with reading?
End of Line
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Nov 25, 2012 10:41pm
I misread, my mistake. No need to act like a typical ND douche.karen lotz;1329212 wrote:I actually didn't compare anyone. Pick said he thought Shazier had better numbers in every category. Do you have trouble with reading?
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 25, 2012 10:44pm
End of Line;1329209 wrote:Tough to compare a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 OLB. Like a 3-4 MLB to a 4-3 OLB.
Georgia likes to run a lot of 4 man fronts though also. But jones a lot of the time is that speed pass rusher. I guess I shouldn't have chosen jones but he was the closest I could think of in terms of their responsibilities
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Nov 25, 2012 10:51pm
hmmmmm...End of Line;1329214 wrote:I misread, my mistake. No need to act like a typical ND douche.
End of Line;1329209 wrote:Tough to compare a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 OLB. Like a 3-4 MLB to a 4-3 OLB.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Nov 25, 2012 11:03pm
I don't like to get into these OSU-ND pissing matches but if we're looking at things just based on stats...Taylor Martinez should have been every bit the Heisman candidate that Braxton Miller was if not moreso.
sleeper
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Nov 25, 2012 11:03pm
And what undefeated team does Taylor Martinez play for?killer_ewok;1329231 wrote:I don't like to get into these OSU-ND pissing matches but if we're looking at things just based on stats...Taylor Martinez should have been every bit the Heisman candidate that Braxton Miller was if not moreso.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Nov 25, 2012 11:05pm
sleeper;1329232 wrote:And what undefeated team does Taylor Martinez play for?
Texas A&M hasn't lost?
killer_ewok
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Nov 25, 2012 11:05pm
sleeper;1329232 wrote:And what undefeated team does Taylor Martinez play for?
Oh, so it's not just about stats anymore? Good to know.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 25, 2012 11:08pm
Here's a stat for you; Only 1 defensive player has won the Heisman in its history. Do you really think Te'o is better than Suh or Honey Badger? They didn't win it, Te'o won't win it, and ND will be 0-4 in BCS bowls come January. Fact.killer_ewok;1329234 wrote:Oh, so it's not just about stats anymore? Good to know.
sleeper
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Nov 25, 2012 11:10pm
This is about Shazier; the best LB in the country.karen lotz;1329233 wrote:Texas A&M hasn't lost?
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Nov 25, 2012 11:11pm
sleeper;1329236 wrote:Here's a stat for you; Only 1 defensive player has won the Heisman in its history. Do you really think Te'o is better than Suh or Honey Badger? They didn't win it, Te'o won't win it, and ND will be 0-4 in BCS bowls come January. Fact.
Not fact at this point, just your opinion and that is a fact. Also, Te'o and the other Heisman candidates aren't up against Suh and Honey Badger as they were not college football players this season so that is neither here nor there.
Tiger2003
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Nov 25, 2012 11:11pm
2009killer_ewok;1329234 wrote:Oh, so it's not just about stats anymore? Good to know.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Nov 25, 2012 11:16pm
I'll say this....Shazier is a very good player. I just don't think he's as good as Te'o. If you are using stats to say that he is...then that works both ways and Taylor Martinez deserves just as much Heisman hype as Braxton Miller.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Nov 25, 2012 11:22pm
Who said Shazier should or is getting Heisman hype?