Manhattan Buckeye;1483374 wrote:This is the thousandth time (exaggeration, but not by much) I've said this, but yet I have to do it again.
The only chance for success of Obamacare is to dupe (or force) people to buy coverage they don't need, the majority of these being young and poor. True liberals should be howling right now. No other type of insurance works this way.
If I'm a 24 year old guy working as an IT consultant, unmarried, and lives in a $1,000/month apartment I don't need to purchase a lot of term life insurance. If I'm a 45 year old married guy with a wife and 3 kids, the wife doesn't work and I work on an oil rig I need to purchase a policy that adequately covers my family in the event of my death.
If I'm a 52 year old dentist that drives a Toyota Avalon to work a few miles a day and have never had a major claim, I don't need to purchase extremely expensive auto insurance. If I'm a a 21 year old frat boy with 3 DUI's and drives a Corvette, chances are I will need to purchase more expensive auto insurance.
If I'm a 22 year old male with no medical problems in the past, goes to graduate school and walks to class I don't need to purchase a gold, silver or even bronze plated health insurance policy - just something that needs to cover catastrophic instances. If I'm an 80 year old person who has smoked, has had a history of health issues then if I want health insurance then I would likely need to purchase more expensive coverage, and by the time I'm 80 ideally I've accumulated enough wealth to pay for it.
Those 3 scenarios discuss how insurance is supposed to work, it pools risk funded by premiums charged based on the situation of the individual and pays out claims without regard to the situation. If a 24 year old buys a life insurance policy of $1,000,000 they might pay $50/month, a 45 year old with the same policy might pay out $150/month. In each case in the event of death the estate gets the same $1,000,000.
Obamacare conditions the market so that people who are at the lowest risk must pay more to cover the people at the highest risk. This isn't insurance. It is generational theft and would be wealth redistribution, if it wasn't the poorest people that has their wealth being redistributed, and the security is going to be the burden of the taxpayers. It is a complete debacle.
You repeat yourself but you are still incorrect. I've highlighted relevant parts. Obamacare is not generational theft nor redistribution of wealth anymore than any other insurance system.
Do you agree that even a young, healthy person ought to insure themselves with a high deductible, catastrophic coverage plan? Yes, you've said so many times.
Those are available in the healthcare marketplaces. Young men under 30 are able to by high-deductible, catastrophic coverage. You DO NOT have to buy insurance at levels of cost that you DO NOT NEED!
Also, almost 100% of 80 year olds have and will not save enough to cover medical costs when they are old, and that is why we have Medicare which has made life in America incredibly better.
From Covered California's Obamacare report:
http://www.californiareport.org/specialcoverage/obamacare/obamacare-guide-printable.jsp?topic=5
[h=5]I'm 28 and Healthy. I Only Worry About What I'd Do If I Were Hit by a Bus. Which Plan Should I Pick?[/h]You can certainly look at the bronze plan, and see if the coverage makes sense for you. Covered California also offers a catastrophic plan. It does not cover doctor's visits or even emergency room visits, but is meant to protect you against catastrophic medical bills. This level of coverage is available to people up to age 30. It's also available to other people who can demonstrate that they are experiencing financial hardship.
[h=5]Even with All This Help, I Cannot Afford to Buy Insurance or Pay The Penalty. What Do I Do?[/h]If you are looking at the least expensive plans, and your cost for the premium is greater than 8 percent of your household income, you are exempt from the requirement to have health insurance. You do not need to pay a penalty.
Myths about redistribution from the young and healthy to the old and sick are greatly exaggerated. The ACA is a conservative approach to universal coverage and it's going to end up being very popular...just like Medicare. Obama has sucked in a lot of ways but in the end, this will be a good thing.