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rydawg5

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Nov 14, 2012 9:12 PM
Yes.

They owe us protection while maintaining our liberty & freedom.

Do they owe us more than that?

No.

Do they owe businesses who are going bankrupt anything (IE Bailout?)

No.

Why do the Republicans & Democrats think the government owes us so many things?
Nov 14, 2012 9:12pm
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isadore

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Nov 14, 2012 9:44 PM
gosh thank you for your opinion.
Nov 14, 2012 9:44pm
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Nov 14, 2012 9:47 PM
Probably one of the most racist threads on here.
Nov 14, 2012 9:47pm
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tk421

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Nov 14, 2012 9:49 PM
they owe you a phone, your utilities paid, food, shelter, car payment, preferred treatment when searching for a job or applying to a college, payback for the suffering of your ancestors, etc.


Oh, you say you are a white? Sorry, no can do.
Nov 14, 2012 9:49pm
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Nov 14, 2012 10:24 PM
tk421;1320562 wrote:they owe you a phone, your utilities paid, food, shelter, car payment, preferred treatment when searching for a job or applying to a college, payback for the suffering of your ancestors, etc.


Oh, you say you are a white? Sorry, no can do.
You mad bro?
Nov 14, 2012 10:24pm
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isadore

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Nov 14, 2012 10:49 PM
a government to secure our liberties by promoting the GENERAL WELFARE of our citizenry.
Nov 14, 2012 10:49pm
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gut

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Nov 14, 2012 11:00 PM
isadore;1320602 wrote:a government to secure our liberties by promoting the GENERAL WELFARE of our citizenry.
Emphasis on welfare. They're doing a bang-up job of leaving no other option for people.
Nov 14, 2012 11:00pm
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isadore

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Nov 14, 2012 11:06 PM
gut;1320605 wrote:Emphasis on welfare. They're doing a bang-up job of leaving no other option for people.
after republican policies destroyed our middle class.
Nov 14, 2012 11:06pm
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gut

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Nov 15, 2012 2:09 AM
isadore;1320608 wrote:after republican policies destroyed our middle class.
I think if you really take a look at it you'll see liberal policies destroying it faster. It's a global trend, but can't say I blame you for wanting to hit the wall quicker with the Dems. Just get it over with.
Nov 15, 2012 2:09am
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Nov 15, 2012 2:50 AM
gut/isadore

Nov 15, 2012 2:50am
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gut

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Nov 15, 2012 2:59 AM
more like...

Nov 15, 2012 2:59am
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isadore

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Nov 15, 2012 7:57 AM
gut;1320633 wrote:I think if you really take a look at it you'll see liberal policies destroying it faster. It's a global trend, but can't say I blame you for wanting to hit the wall quicker with the Dems. Just get it over with.
I am sure you think that. But you tell people its raining when its really Republican administration urinating on their heads.
Blaming it on global trends gives a free pass to Republican administrations whose policies are the main reason for our growing stratification. Their tax cuts favoring the rich, their deregulation favoring corporations over the workers, their lack of support for government funding for post secondary education undercutting efforts for social mobility.
Nov 15, 2012 7:57am
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WebFire

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Nov 15, 2012 8:12 AM
isadore;1320667 wrote:I am sure you think that. But you tell people its raining when its really Republican administration urinating on their heads.
Blaming it on global trends gives a free pass to Republican administrations whose policies are the main reason for our growing stratification. Their tax cuts favoring the rich, their deregulation favoring corporations over the workers, their lack of support for government funding for post secondary education undercutting efforts for social mobility.
So how long does BO need to be in office to quit blaming it on Republicans?
Nov 15, 2012 8:12am
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isadore

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Nov 15, 2012 8:20 AM
WebFire;1320672 wrote:So how long does BO need to be in office to quit blaming it on Republicans?
as long as it takes to undo the enormous damage the republican administrations have done to our country in the last 32 years.
Nov 15, 2012 8:20am
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Nov 15, 2012 8:34 AM
isadore;1320678 wrote:as long as it takes to undo the enormous damage the republican administrations have done to our country in the last 32 years.
So there were no Dems in any office the last 32 years? Interesting.
Nov 15, 2012 8:34am
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Nov 15, 2012 9:11 AM
isadore;1320678 wrote:as long as it takes to undo the enormous damage the republican administrations have done to our country in the last 32 years.
What about the debt BHO has accrued? What about that, huh? What about that?
Nov 15, 2012 9:11am
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isadore

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Nov 15, 2012 9:54 AM
WebFire;1320687 wrote:So there were no Dems in any office the last 32 years? Interesting.
gosh a ruddies during clinton presidency for six years he had a republican congress working for the interest of the rich and corporations. and for Obama his efforts to do good have been slowed by a republican house for the last two years.
Nov 15, 2012 9:54am
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Nov 15, 2012 9:54 AM
isadore;1320735 wrote:gosh a ruddies during clinton presidency for six years he had a republican congress working for the interest of the rich and corporations. and for Obama his efforts to do good have been slowed by a republican house for the last two years.
Haha. Ok dude.
Nov 15, 2012 9:54am
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isadore

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Nov 15, 2012 9:56 AM
ernest_t_bass;1320709 wrote:What about the debt BHO has accrued? What about that, huh? What about that?
what about that, what about that, you are funny guy. he was using those funds to alleviate suffering, defend against terrorism and turn the economy around, all worthy goals. And with a republican house through part of that time that was only interested in protecting the rich and corporations.
Nov 15, 2012 9:56am
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Nov 15, 2012 10:18 AM
Whoever is behind isadore's computer screen surely has perfected his trolling act.
Nov 15, 2012 10:18am
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isadore

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Nov 15, 2012 10:23 AM
like_that;1320766 wrote:Whoever is behind isadore's computer screen surely has perfected his trolling act.
it says something about the contributors to this site that defense of the person and policies of a President elect by the majority of Americans voting in the 2012 election would be considered trolling.
Nov 15, 2012 10:23am
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queencitybuckeye

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Nov 15, 2012 10:25 AM
To do what they're charged with by the constituion, and equally important, to do nothing else.

The ship has kind of sailed on that simple concept, I'm afraid.
Nov 15, 2012 10:25am
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Nov 15, 2012 12:09 PM
isadore;1320735 wrote:gosh a ruddies during clinton presidency for six years he had a republican congress working for the interest of the rich and corporations. and for Obama his efforts to do good have been slowed by a republican house for the last two years.
What about the Democrat-controlled House during the entire Reagan and Bush41 presidencies, and the three decades prior to that? Does that count?

Fulfilling this is all the government owes me:

Congress
  • I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.


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Nov 15, 2012 12:09pm
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Nov 15, 2012 12:13 PM
Nov 15, 2012 12:13pm
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isadore

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Nov 15, 2012 12:19 PM
jhay78;1320855 wrote:What about the Democrat-controlled House during the entire Reagan and Bush41 presidencies, and the three decades prior to that? Does that count?

Fulfilling this is all the government owes me:

Congress





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Republicans controlled the Senate for much of that time.
Nov 15, 2012 12:19pm