reclegend22;1387648 wrote:DUKE: Louisville (RPI #9), Minnesota (RPI #13), N.C. State (RPI #17), Ohio State (RPI #23), VCU (RPI #39), Temple (RPI #39), Kentucky (RPI #45)

The Blue Devils have more wins versus the Top 50 RPI than any other team mentioned here (might be more than anyone in the country, but not sure)

Laley23;1387684 wrote:Oladipo is graduating this semester. He is all but gone, and good for him. I dont think anyone thinks its a bad decision. If he keeps going the way he is, he will be a Dwayne Wade type recruit going op 5.

Zeller I think a lot of people have at about 50-50. His family is so high on academics, and while his brothers were really good enough to leave early, like Cody is, they all stayed 4 years. Personally, I think he stays, but I wont be upset or surprised by him leaving.

ytownfootball;1387660 wrote:Lol...wrong thread

Laley23;1387688 wrote:Not trying to disparage Dukes resume. I think it is still right there as one of best in the country. But damn, early on I was really impressed. Those teams have really fallen off since Duke played them. Mainly UK (who is coming back)...but LVille and Minny have looked less than impressive recently and Temple hasnt been the studly Mid-Major I expected.

That said, all are top 50 RPI for a reason, they are still good. Just not juggernauts like we might have thought early on.

reclegend22;1387709 wrote:You added Minnesota to Indiana's list of wins, so you can't really consider it impressive for IU to beat them but not Duke. I know that's not what you mean, but I do find it funny that you pointed that out for Duke. Also, Michigan State and Georgetown have not played like NCAA title contenders over the course of much of the year. Notably Georgetown. At around the time Indiana beat Georgtown in 2OT, the Hoyas were struggling to break 20 on some nights. They got pounded by Pitt by almost 30 at HOME. Lost to 10-13 South Florida. Granted, they have improved vastly in the past three weeks.

I do agree that UK and Temple have looked shaky at times throughout the year. I think both are NCAA teams, though, and Temple has been competitive with and beaten some great teams this year (win over Syracuse, took KU to the wire in Allen, etc.)

I am in no way trying to strike up an argument. I think Duke and Indiana probably have pretty similar wins, with IU having the most impressive with the defeat of Michigan.

vball10set;1387722 wrote:For me, Oladipo and Gus Johnson will forever be linked. After hearing this call, how can they not be?

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Laley23;1387724 wrote:Oh I know. I would say the same about Indiana with Minny. I would include it as a good win, just like I do for Duke. Im just pointing out that at one time, they really DID look like a top 10 team. Now, more like top 35, which is still solid...but as I said, not top 4 seed good. It really wasnt a comparison at all. I just found it kind of odd that Dukes big wins early all have looked really shaky since. Doesnt make them bad wins, but no denying that UK and LV preseason were top 5 teams who arent close to that. And Temple, who I thought could be a top 5 mid-major (after Zags, UNLV and Butler) pre-season are sitting at T7 in the A-10.

reclegend22;1387734 wrote:I guess I just look at it the other way. I don't think you can't criticize a team's victory over a team that WAS playing like a top ten caliber club at the time you beat them (i.e. Duke's wins over Minnesota and Louisville). Don't forget that Louisville actually rose to number one AFTER losing to Duke. The Cardinals were playing great ball back then, as was Tubby's Gophers.

The opposite would be you giving Indiana credit for beating Georgetown, who is playing Top 10 basketball right now, but was looking like an NIT team early in the season (or least on the bubble) when the Hoosiers beat them.

reclegend22;1387734 wrote:I guess I just look at it the other way. I don't think you can't criticize a team's victory over a team that WAS playing like a top ten caliber club at the time you beat them (i.e. Duke's wins over Minnesota and Louisville). Don't forget that Louisville actually rose to number one AFTER losing to Duke. The Cardinals were playing great ball back then, as was Tubby's Gophers.

The opposite would be you giving Indiana credit for beating Georgetown, who is playing Top 10 basketball right now, but was looking like an NIT team early in the season (or least on the bubble) when the Hoosiers beat them.

thavoice;1387740 wrote:Not sure saying the Hoyas were looking ike an NIT team when IU played them. Theyw ere 3-0 and just beat UCLA and then won 7 more. Opponants werent great, but then again not many teams are that early on. They werent ranked but recall thinking theylooked very solid and the talking heads doing the game commented on how they expect them to be ranked soon.

Ghmothwdwhso;1388117 wrote:Michigan hasn't been right since IU slapped them around.

Yes they beat Ohio State, but I thought they would easily win that game.

Someone needs to stand up and lead that team. I hate to say it, but I think their youth is being exposed, I don't say that in a demeaning way, just a fact.