osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 14, 2012 3:49pm
There is no excuse for this team to be under performing w/ all this talent. Also Jay Gruden's offense goes dormant for 2 quarters every game, Absolutely no excuse for these back 2 back loses
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 14, 2012 4:19pm
Been saying it since last year. This team is not as good as you all thought they were last year. Pretty overrated. They had 5 weeks in a row vs rookie QBs (one 2nd year qb) and they only have 3 wins to show for it. Would've only been 2 wins if Haden plays in week 2.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Oct 14, 2012 4:21pm
Like that well said dude.
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 14, 2012 4:34pm
Marvin Lewis, Post-Game: "We're not playing nasty, We're almost too nice."
That falls on the coaching staff plain & simple
That falls on the coaching staff plain & simple
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Oct 14, 2012 4:43pm
Not a Bengals fan but I'd like Lewis fired for no other reason than that he is absolutely brutal to listen to on WLW when giving pre and/or post game comments. I'm really surprised I haven't fallen asleep while driving listening to him talk.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 14, 2012 4:48pm
I mentioned this earlier that I considered Lewis to be sub par and if he were with any other owner (IE not the cheapskate that Brown is) he would have been fired a long time ago.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Oct 14, 2012 9:09pm
He would be fired but no way is brown paying 2 coaches at once.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 14, 2012 9:13pm
I think the bengals have some great pieces in place, but that schedule last year hid a lot of what they really are. They beat the bad teams and lose to the good teams. Right now, they are a middle of the pack team talentwise, but they have some great building blocks.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 14, 2012 9:23pm
Pains me to say it, but I think it is playoffs or bust. If Lewis doesn't get it done, I think it is time to cut bait. The team had a good year last year and we can't have the 'fall back to earth' year that seems to keep happening.
When Mikey inevitably makes the move, he needs to hire a GM (Raiders and Cowboys fans nod their heads)
When Mikey inevitably makes the move, he needs to hire a GM (Raiders and Cowboys fans nod their heads)
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 14, 2012 9:26pm
lol, wish I GAF enough to find the quote of you saying he's a top coach in the league.jordo212000;1295463 wrote:Pains me to say it, but I think it is playoffs or bust. If Lewis doesn't get it done, I think it is time to cut bait. The team had a good year last year and we can't have the 'fall back to earth' year that seems to keep happening.
When Mikey inevitably makes the move, he needs to hire a GM (Raiders and Cowboys fans nod their heads)
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 14, 2012 9:30pm
Commander of Awesome;1295465 wrote:lol, wish I GAF enough to find the quote of you saying he's a top coach in the league.
C'mon man...the old you used to have plenty of GAF to pwn....you're becoming complacent.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 14, 2012 9:39pm
Commander of Awesome;1295465 wrote:lol, wish I GAF enough to find the quote of you saying he's a top coach in the league.
He is a good coach as evidenced by the fact he has won plenty of games in Cincy and then he also helped construct one of the best defenses of all time. Sometimes though teams need a new voice
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 14, 2012 9:42pm
That doesn't mean shit. Plenty of good coordinators who aren't good head coaches.jordo212000;1295477 wrote:He is a good coach as evidenced by the fact he has won plenty of games in Cincy and then he also helped construct one of the best defenses of all time. Sometimes though teams need a new voice
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Oct 14, 2012 9:44pm
jordo212000;1295477 wrote:He is a good coach as evidenced by the fact he has won plenty of games in Cincy and then he also helped construct one of the best defenses of all time. Sometimes though teams need a new voice
He's been in the league about 10 years, under. 500 win percentage, and 0-3 in the playoffs. You seriously call that a good coach??? C'mon man.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 14, 2012 9:44pm
like_that;1295478 wrote:That doesn't mean shit. Plenty of good coordinators who aren't good head coaches.
I don't you think you can argue he is a bad head coach either though. Winning with Mike Brown calling the shots means something. Nobody else can really say that they have
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 14, 2012 9:45pm
GoChiefs;1295479 wrote:He's been in the league about 10 years, under. 500 win percentage, and 0-3 in the playoffs. You seriously call that a good coach??? C'mon man.
See my previous post. Not good by league standards, but from a Bengals perspective he has been good. There's always the fear of the unknown. We don't want to have another Bruce Coslet!
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 14, 2012 9:49pm
Lewis and the current crew also do a pretty good job of evaluating talent and developing it. The in-game stuff is where he struggles from time to time. I know I scratched my head with his decision to not go for two last week. Came back to bite us. That loss was on him and the coaching staff
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 14, 2012 10:28pm
Marvin Lewis is an average coach. Unfortunately, he's good enough to not get fired, especially considering it would cost money to fire him.
If you want Marvin fired, root for a complete collapse, maybe from here through the end of 2013. Other than that, the Bengals are still an 8-8, 9-7, fringe playoff team. Good enough to appease Mikey and Marvin will hang around forever...
If you want Marvin fired, root for a complete collapse, maybe from here through the end of 2013. Other than that, the Bengals are still an 8-8, 9-7, fringe playoff team. Good enough to appease Mikey and Marvin will hang around forever...
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Oct 14, 2012 11:02pm
We got shoved around plain and simple. Browns beat us up. We need a running back and a proven 2nd year guy. I was hoping for 9 wins....thinking 6-7 now. This Pitt game will show me a lot. 4-3 is a ton better than 3-4.
Rookie QB or not, Weeden and Tannehill are going to be legit qb's in this league and played well both games.
Rookie QB or not, Weeden and Tannehill are going to be legit qb's in this league and played well both games.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 14, 2012 11:07pm
Weeden is 5 years OLDER than Andy Dalton.
I'm not sold on him ever being more than decent.
I'm not sold on him ever being more than decent.
ricola
Posts: 855
Oct 15, 2012 2:09am
not necessarily a big Marvin Lewis fan, but as a Browns fan we'll trade you coaches straight up any time you want to make the trade! Be careful what you wish for---you could end up with a Shurmur!
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 15, 2012 7:10am
ricola;1295589 wrote:not necessarily a big Marvin Lewis fan, but as a Browns fan we'll trade you coaches straight up any time you want to make the trade! Be careful what you wish for---you could end up with a Shurmur!
Exactly what I was getting at
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 15, 2012 8:36am
The guy has been around enough, so you know what you've got....and it's not that impressive. Not getting at least a FG just before the half yesterday(time runs out)...was pretty Mangini-esque.:thumbdown:
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 15, 2012 6:28pm
In Cincy, they may get a favorable second left.HitsRus;1295652 wrote:The guy has been around enough, so you know what you've got....and it's not that impressive. Not getting at least a FG just before the half yesterday(time runs out)...was pretty Mangini-esque.:thumbdown:
Otherwise, I agree. You can't let the clock run out. You would rather try a 60-yard FG than not get ANY FG off...
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 21, 2012 11:25pm
BUMP.... SICK & TIRED of Marvin acting like a little bitch