This election is eerily similar to 2004

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Oct 8, 2012 9:11 AM
Especially since the Pubs threw up John Kerry against Obama

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Oct 8, 2012 9:11am
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Oct 8, 2012 9:22 AM
No part of that post made any sense.
Oct 8, 2012 9:22am
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Oct 8, 2012 9:51 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1290177 wrote:No part of that post made any sense.
You're really disappointing me lately. Until this year I could have sworn you were a smart guy.

2004 we have an incumbent that didn't have an easy 3.5 years. Many think as long as the opposing party doesn't nominate a dud, he's only getting 1 term. The Dems threw up John Kerry who didn't have a stance on anything and would flip flop on key issues just hoping you would like him. The Republicans, in so many words, threw up a John Kerry in the same exact setting. A rich out of touch East coaster that doesn't hold a single belief of his own and will flop flop on any issue.
Oct 8, 2012 9:51am
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Oct 8, 2012 10:44 AM
The economy in 2004 was considerably better than today. Dems tried to make it a referendum on the wars, and to large extent they did it just didn't quite break the way they hoped.

This election is very different. It WILL be a referendum on the economy and Dems are trying to make it a referendum on Romney's success. They need a different tactic (if they have one) because the American people are getting to see Romney/Ryan for who they really are, not the carefully misconstructed image the Obama campaign and liberal media have been trying to create of them.
Oct 8, 2012 10:44am
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Oct 8, 2012 10:47 AM
gut;1290219 wrote:The economy in 2004 was considerably better than today. Dems tried to make it a referendum on the wars, and to large extent they did it just didn't quite break the way they hoped.

This election is very different. It WILL be a referendum on the economy and Dems are trying to make it a referendum on Romney's success. They need a different tactic (if they have one) because the American people are getting to see Romney/Ryan for who they really are, not the carefully misconstructed image the Obama campaign and liberal media have been trying to create of them.
Au contraire.. in 2004 the economy was still declining, in 2012 the economy is rebounding.. if anything there was more of a point to dismiss the incumbent.
Oct 8, 2012 10:47am
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Oct 8, 2012 10:57 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1290221 wrote:Au contraire.. in 2004 the economy was still declining, in 2012 the economy is rebounding.. if anything there was more of a point to dismiss the incumbent.
LMFAO, where do you get your information?
Oct 8, 2012 10:57am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:01 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1290221 wrote:Au contraire.. in 2004 the economy was still declining, in 2012 the economy is rebounding.. if anything there was more of a point to dismiss the incumbent.
Economic growth for 2004 was between 3.6-3.9% each quarter, and averaged 181K new jobs per month. :rolleyes:
Oct 8, 2012 11:01am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:02 AM
gut;1290225 wrote:LMFAO, where do you get your information?
I don't know.. real life? My investments are up 14.1% this year alone.. hard to do that in a tanking ecnomy.
Our company has invested 250 million in Stark County alone this year and hired 300 people. Hard to do that in a tanking economy too. My salary increased 15% this year also.. that's sure not a sign of a tanking economy. Unemploment is down and company after company (including the one i work for) are making record profits. That's also not a sign of a tanking economy.
Oct 8, 2012 11:02am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:14 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1290231 wrote:I don't know.. real life? My investments are up 14.1% this year alone.. hard to do that in a tanking ecnomy.
Our company has invested 250 million in Stark County alone this year and hired 300 people. Hard to do that in a tanking economy too. My salary increased 15% this year also.. that's sure not a sign of a tanking economy. Unemploment is down and company after company (including the one i work for) are making record profits. That's also not a sign of a tanking economy.
Nice anecdotal evidence.
Oct 8, 2012 11:14am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:18 AM
sleeper;1290243 wrote:Nice anecdotal evidence.
Derp derp derp da biska du
Oct 8, 2012 11:18am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:25 AM
Wow....I honestly think there are going to be several mental breakdowns on November 7th if President Obama is re-elected.

Oh by the way...Rassmussen is all tied up again
Oct 8, 2012 11:25am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:29 AM
Ty Webb;1290253 wrote:Wow....I honestly think there are going to be several mental breakdowns on November 7th if President Obama is re-elected.

Oh by the way...Rassmussen is all tied up again
Why? Obie is the favorite. It's his race to lose. You people have been telling us that for a year. I'm fully at peace with whatever happens.

If we want to get into some psychoanalysis, you really need to figure out how you feel about Rasmussen. :cool:
Oct 8, 2012 11:29am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:33 AM
Yep, more failing companies is good for business. Bad for the country, good for me personally. So I won't cry if Obama wins. When people whine for more handouts I'll just say "socialism sucks, this is what you voted for".

This election should be a slam-dunk for Romney. Yet, inexplicably, Obama's base are the ones that have been disproportionately hurt by the Obamaconomy. It's amazing. The people getting the shaft are the ones that are eager for 4 more years of hardship.
Oct 8, 2012 11:33am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:33 AM
fish82;1290256 wrote:Why? Obie is the favorite. It's his race to lose. You people have been telling us that for a year. I'm fully at peace with whatever happens.

If we want to get into some psychoanalysis, you really need to figure out how you feel about Rasmussen. :cool:
I don't like Rasmussen...but it seems like whenever a good poll for Romney comes out it's all some posters here want to talk about...yet when a good poll for President Obama comes from him..no one says a word:confused:
Oct 8, 2012 11:33am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:34 AM
sleeper;1290243 wrote:Nice anecdotal evidence.
thank you
Oct 8, 2012 11:34am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:36 AM
Ty Webb;1290258 wrote:I don't like Rasmussen...but it seems like whenever a good poll for Romney comes out it's all some posters here want to talk about...yet when a good poll for President Obama comes from him..no one says a word:confused:
The hypocrisy is strong in this one...
Oct 8, 2012 11:36am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:49 AM
Ty Webb;1290258 wrote:I don't like Rasmussen...but it seems like whenever a good poll for Romney comes out it's all some posters here want to talk about...yet when a good poll for President Obama comes from him..no one says a word:confused:
Gallup is tied too. Mittens closes a 5-point gap.

Hope this helps.
Oct 8, 2012 11:49am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:53 AM
gut;1290257 wrote:This election should be a slam-dunk for Romney. Yet, inexplicably, Obama's base are the ones that have been disproportionately hurt by the Obamaconomy. It's amazing. The people getting the shaft are the ones that are eager for 4 more years of hardship.
You mean like how a lot of lower-income working whites in the south who tend to vote "R" no matter what are in Romney's 47%, as has been said on here more than once since those comments came out?
Oct 8, 2012 11:53am
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Oct 8, 2012 11:57 AM
"47%" is the new "show us the tax returns."

It's off the national radar for the most part.
Oct 8, 2012 11:57am
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Oct 8, 2012 12:00 PM
Wow....

Mitt laid a major dud in his foreign policy speech today
Oct 8, 2012 12:00pm
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Oct 8, 2012 12:03 PM
Heretic;1290280 wrote:You mean like how a lot of lower-income working whites in the south who tend to vote "R" no matter what are in Romney's 47%, as has been said on here more than once since those comments came out?
Well, they really shouldn't be voting for Obama, should they?

There are ignorant voters on both sides of the aisle. What's surprising is how many people are still drunk on the the 2008 "hope and change" platform despite being sold an obvious bill of goods.
Oct 8, 2012 12:03pm
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Oct 8, 2012 12:13 PM
1980
Oct 8, 2012 12:13pm
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Oct 8, 2012 12:16 PM
jhay78;1290299 wrote:1980
NOT EVEN CLOSE

2004 is more like it
Oct 8, 2012 12:16pm