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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 5, 2012 11:13am
http://washingtonexaminer.com/ohio-poll-romney-leads-51-48-among-those-certain-to-vote/article/2509947#.UG7vQU3A-gR
With Romney leading in the 6th district by 16 points, it was obvious that the skewed polls from last week were incorrect. This report is closer to the truth than what we were previously led to believe ......and the positive momentum from the debate should seal the deal.
With Romney leading in the 6th district by 16 points, it was obvious that the skewed polls from last week were incorrect. This report is closer to the truth than what we were previously led to believe ......and the positive momentum from the debate should seal the deal.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 5, 2012 11:53am
Accutally.....you're wrong
If you would read the ful article......the President leads 51-49
If you would read the ful article......the President leads 51-49
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 5, 2012 11:59am
Also....your buddy Scott Rasmussen has the President leading as well
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Oct 5, 2012 12:26pm
If you're going to quote him, at least get the whole quote, OK?Ty Webb;1287742 wrote:Also....your buddy Scott Rasmussen has the President leading as well
He said last night that their polling since the debate is favoring Romney. He said his polling will likely show a 2 point lead for Romney by Sunday.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 5, 2012 12:40pm
BGFalcons82;1287750 wrote:If you're going to quote him, at least get the whole quote, OK?
He said last night that their polling since the debate is favoring Romney. He said his polling will likely show a 2 point lead for Romney by Sunday.
Yea....and that was before the jobs report this morning.
Ty Webb
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Oct 5, 2012 12:52pm
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Oct 5, 2012 1:13pm
[INDENT]Give this about a week and the number will change …. to 8.1 again when the real number cruncher do the math…
Fraud information by Obama Administration :laugh:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/05/jobless-rate-falls-to-78-percent-in-september/
Obama thrown under the bus again by a one time supporter :
The data even elicited a conspiracy theory from former General Electric CEO Jack Welch, who tweeted: "Unbelievable jobs numbers..these Chicago guys will do anything..can't debate so change numbers."
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Fraud information by Obama Administration :laugh:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/05/jobless-rate-falls-to-78-percent-in-september/
Obama thrown under the bus again by a one time supporter :
The data even elicited a conspiracy theory from former General Electric CEO Jack Welch, who tweeted: "Unbelievable jobs numbers..these Chicago guys will do anything..can't debate so change numbers."
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 5, 2012 1:18pm
Now leading not just in Ohio but all 3 major battleground states: OH, FL, VA.
And with momentum.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/5/romney-gets-post-debate-bounce-fla-ohio-va/
And with momentum.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/5/romney-gets-post-debate-bounce-fla-ohio-va/
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Oct 5, 2012 1:24pm
It's a postive occurence, that much is certian. Mittens has to sweep all 3 states to be in the ballgame.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 5, 2012 1:26pm
fish82;1287785 wrote:It's a postive occurence, that much is certian. Mittens has to sweep all 3 states to be in the ballgame.
I agree with you on that fish...
I've been saying that since Romney clinched the nomination. He had to win all three and even then it might be a struggle
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 5, 2012 1:28pm
You do realize that he must win all three and even then it may not be enoughQuakerOats;1287777 wrote:Now leading not just in Ohio but all 3 major battleground states: OH, FL, VA.
And with momentum.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/5/romney-gets-post-debate-bounce-fla-ohio-va/
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 5, 2012 1:40pm
It's a cakewalk with all 3.
And with the movement we are seeing (nevermind oversampling we've been talking about), other states clearly in Obama's corner are now coming into play so that just creates more paths to victory for Romney.
And with the movement we are seeing (nevermind oversampling we've been talking about), other states clearly in Obama's corner are now coming into play so that just creates more paths to victory for Romney.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 5, 2012 1:46pm
gut;1287795 wrote:It's a cakewalk with all 3.
And with the movement we are seeing (nevermind oversampling we've been talking about), other states clearly in Obama's corner are now coming into play so that just creates more paths to victory for Romney.
You're kidding me right??
Romney is going to cakewalk in Ohio? Where people in the Auto industry hate him?
What Obama states are going to come into play?
New Mexico? Nope
Nevada? Nope
Michigan? Nope
You're starting to sound like Quaker. Hmm...makes me wonder
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 5, 2012 1:51pm
From Electoral-Vote.com..
Mitt Romney just lost one of his talking points. During the first debate he harped on the fact that the unemployment rate has been above 8% for 40 months. It's not any more. The September jobs report has come out and it's all good news for Obama. The economy added 114,000 jobs in September and the unemployment rate dropped to 7.8%. Additionally, the July and August statistics were revised, with the actual number of jobs added being 86,000 more than originally reported. Employment is now higher and unemployment lower than when Obama took office, a time when the economy was bleeding 600,000 jobs per month.
There is no joy in Boston today. While the debate has not been completely forgotten already, the new jobs data will dominate the news for several days and Obama will be saying: "We have now had 31 consecutive months of job growth and the stock market is up 60%." Romney's argument that Obama can't handle the economy becomes much weaker when the data shows it slowly growing, albeit not so fast as everyone would prefer.
Conservatives have reacted to these new numbers by simply denying them and suggesting that a 0.3% drop from 8.1% to 7.8% is inconceivable. During the months of joblessness above 8%, the accuracy of the Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers was never called into question, however.
Mitt Romney just lost one of his talking points. During the first debate he harped on the fact that the unemployment rate has been above 8% for 40 months. It's not any more. The September jobs report has come out and it's all good news for Obama. The economy added 114,000 jobs in September and the unemployment rate dropped to 7.8%. Additionally, the July and August statistics were revised, with the actual number of jobs added being 86,000 more than originally reported. Employment is now higher and unemployment lower than when Obama took office, a time when the economy was bleeding 600,000 jobs per month.
There is no joy in Boston today. While the debate has not been completely forgotten already, the new jobs data will dominate the news for several days and Obama will be saying: "We have now had 31 consecutive months of job growth and the stock market is up 60%." Romney's argument that Obama can't handle the economy becomes much weaker when the data shows it slowly growing, albeit not so fast as everyone would prefer.
Conservatives have reacted to these new numbers by simply denying them and suggesting that a 0.3% drop from 8.1% to 7.8% is inconceivable. During the months of joblessness above 8%, the accuracy of the Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers was never called into question, however.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 5, 2012 1:57pm
Which people ..... the thousands of Delphi salaried workers who had their pensions stolen from them by obama, the auto dealers/workers who had their businesses stolen from them, or the millions of taxpayers who had their money stolen to prop up a failed business for the sake of buying union votes?Ty Webb;1287798 wrote:You're kidding me right??
Romney is going to cakewalk in Ohio? Where people in the Auto industry hate him?
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 5, 2012 1:58pm
This is exactly why Florida is not even close to a "cakewalk" for Romney(it will come down to the wire),and why he Romney has no chance is swing states with huge Latino populations:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/260467-polls-obama-crushing-romney-with-swing-state-hispanics
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/260467-polls-obama-crushing-romney-with-swing-state-hispanics
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 5, 2012 2:00pm
I'm not even going to discuss that with you...because You/gut are too clueless to understand what would've happened to this state had the autobailout not happenedQuakerOats;1287813 wrote:Which people ..... the thousands of Delphi salaried workers who had their pensions stolen from them by obama, the auto dealers/workers who had their businesses stolen from them, or the millions of taxpayers who had their money stolen to prop up a failed business for the sake of buying union votes?
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 5, 2012 2:00pm
I didn't say those states were a cakewalk for Romney, I said his victory is if he wins them.
Millions of Americans saw on Wednesday that Obama is an empty suit that has no grasp on the economy and no ideas. I think Romney is going to get a lot of mileage out of his "trickle down govt" line.
Millions of Americans saw on Wednesday that Obama is an empty suit that has no grasp on the economy and no ideas. I think Romney is going to get a lot of mileage out of his "trickle down govt" line.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 5, 2012 2:01pm
He is not saying Ohio is going to be a cakewalk to win SMFH. He is saying if Romney wins all 3 mentioned states, it will be a cakewalk to win the election.Ty Webb;1287798 wrote:You're kidding me right??
Romney is going to cakewalk in Ohio? Where people in the Auto industry hate him?
What Obama states are going to come into play?
New Mexico? Nope
Nevada? Nope
Michigan? Nope
You're starting to sound like Quaker. Hmm...makes me wonder
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 5, 2012 2:02pm
And the President is going to get alot of mileage out of the new jobs report too.gut;1287817 wrote:I didn't say those states were a cakewalk for Romney, I said his victory is if he wins them.
Millions of Americans saw on Wednesday that Obama is an empty suit that has no grasp on the economy and no ideas. I think Romney is going to get a lot of mileage out of his "trickle down govt" line.
And yes you did say Ohio is going to be a cakewalk for Romnney
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gut
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Oct 5, 2012 2:03pm
I realize this is hard for you to believe, but I supported the auto bailout as necessary. That doesn't mean the Obama administration doesn't deserve criticism for the way they trampled bankruptcy law and property rights (robbing from debt holders to pay off their union constituents).Ty Webb;1287816 wrote:I'm not even going to discuss that with you...because You/gut are too clueless to understand what would've happened to this state had the autobailout not happened
And it was pretty much teed-up before Obama came to office. All of it was (TARP, etc..). Obama just had to sign his name. The idea that Obama rescued the economy is another great myth. What has his fingerprints all over it was the $800B porkulus, which was an absolute flop like pretty much everything in the economy Obama has touched.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 5, 2012 2:06pm
No I didn't. I was responding to your claim that "he needs all 3 to win, and even then it may not be enough". I responded "it's a cakewalk [to win] with all 3".Ty Webb;1287820 wrote:And the President is going to get alot of mileage out of the new jobs report too.
And yes you did say Ohio is going to be a cakewalk for Romnney
You have a problem with reading comprehension, among other things.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 5, 2012 2:06pm
Really?? Let's look at the mathlike_that;1287818 wrote:He is not saying Ohio is going to be a cakewalk to win SMFH. He is saying if Romney wins all 3 mentioned states, it will be a cakewalk to win the election.
With no toss-up states...the President leads 303-235(with him getting Ohio and Virginia)
If you take Ohio and Virginia away from him and President Obama still has 272 electoral votes
Does that explain how narrow Romneys path to win is??
Even today..I would much rather be President Obama than Gov. Romney
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 5, 2012 2:10pm
Romney's path only appears so narrow because of oversampling, and self-identification bias among "likely voters". Turn out won't remotely reflect the sampling in those polls. And that's all before the Wednesday disaster. States you're giving to Obama are going to now be in play as the real "gap" narrows.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 5, 2012 2:12pm
Tell me which states?gut;1287833 wrote:Romney's path only appears so narrow because of oversampling, and self-identification bias among "likely voters". Turn out won't remotely reflect the sampling in those polls. And that's all before the Wednesday disaster. States you're giving to Obama are going to now be in play as the real "gap" narrows.
Michigan?
New Mexico?
Nevada?
PA?
Michigan?
Wisconsin?