
BigAppleBuckeye
Posts: 2,935
Dec 19, 2009 12:27pm
How about this? Assuming Missouri joins the Big 10, why not break up the two divisions by when each team joined the Big 10? In other words, the first 6 teams that joined the conference would be in the "Original 6" division, while the last six would be in the "new 6" division. These division names could change of course, let's just use them for now.
It would break down like this:
ORIGINAL
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
NEW
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Missouri
Pretty fair I think. And, they could still schedule OSU-Michigan for the last regular-season game every season. Thoughts?
PS, I found out when each joined the Big 10 via this wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference
It would break down like this:
ORIGINAL
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
NEW
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Missouri
Pretty fair I think. And, they could still schedule OSU-Michigan for the last regular-season game every season. Thoughts?
PS, I found out when each joined the Big 10 via this wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference
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Elliot Stabler
Posts: 388
Dec 19, 2009 1:15pm
Switch Missouri and Indiana and that's perfect

Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Dec 19, 2009 2:05pm
Idea is good but dont like the teams in each division. New division is too stacked. Switch Penn St with MSU or Minn and it would be good IMO.

redfalcon
Posts: 1,088
Dec 19, 2009 2:20pm
I thought OSU was in the Big Ten first. What conference were they before?
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Dec 19, 2009 2:44pm
BAD Idea. Ohio State and Michigan not in the same Division?? Conferences with 2 Divisions don't have non-division games the last game of the Conference regular season. Ohio State and Michigan playing a NON-division game, would make it a far less important game than it has been for 100 years. They have to be in the same Division, play the last game of the regular season, as they have for 100 years. Which will still make it a very meaningful game.BigAppleBuckeye wrote: How about this? Assuming Missouri joins the Big 10, why not break up the two divisions by when each team joined the Big 10? In other words, the first 6 teams that joined the conference would be in the "Original 6" division, while the last six would be in the "new 6" division. These division names could change of course, let's just use them for now.
It would break down like this:
ORIGINAL
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
NEW
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Missouri
Pretty fair I think. And, they could still schedule OSU-Michigan for the last regular-season game every season. Thoughts?
PS, I found out when each joined the Big 10 via this wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference
Indiana schools in different divisions?? Illinois schools in different divisions?? Minnesota and Wisconsin in different divisions?? ALL big rivalry games.
This makes more sense.
Big Ten East - Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Indiana
Big Ten West - Northwestern, Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Missouri
All rivalries in the same Division.
There are more sports to think about than just football and basketball. There are very important money issues to consider. Number one, less air travel. Cost affective Divisions for money draining sports in athletic departments. Such as Soccer, Track and Field, Cross Country, Gymnastics to name a few.
Other than football, every school in a Division will play each other twice on a home and home basis. A school won't have to play a school outside of their division if they don't want to. Relatively close schools from different Divisions can play each other if they choose to, like Indiana and Illinois schools. If not, they can play closer non-division, non-league schools. All schools from both Divisions get together once a year to determine a Big Ten Champion. OR, the 1st Place school from each Division meets at the end of the regular season to determine a Big Ten Champion. Depending on what is best for each sport.
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NOL fan
Posts: 376
Dec 19, 2009 5:00pm
the OAC (Ohio Athletic Conference), which is what Mount Union, Baldwin-Wallace, Capital, Heidelberg, John Carroll, Marietta, Muskingum, Ohio Norther, Otterbein and Wilmington are in todayredfalcon wrote: I thought OSU was in the Big Ten first. What conference were they before?
OSU won two OAC football titles (1906 & 1912) before they joined the Big Ten in 1913

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 19, 2009 8:13pm
The best divisions for the 2 big sports (football and basketball) while keeping rivalries in tact, imo are:
Division 1:
-Wisconsin
-Minnesota
-Iowa
-Penn State
-Michigan State
-Missouri
Division 2:
-Indiana
-Purdue
-Ohio State
-Michigan
-Illinois
-Northwestern
Division 1:
-Wisconsin
-Minnesota
-Iowa
-Penn State
-Michigan State
-Missouri
Division 2:
-Indiana
-Purdue
-Ohio State
-Michigan
-Illinois
-Northwestern
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Dec 19, 2009 11:06pm
You lose the Michigan/Michigan State rivalry. They belong in the same division.Laley23 wrote: The best divisions for the 2 big sports (football and basketball) while keeping rivalries in tact, imo are:
Division 1:
-Wisconsin
-Minnesota
-Iowa
-Penn State
-Michigan State
-Missouri
Division 2:
-Indiana
-Purdue
-Ohio State
-Michigan
-Illinois
-Northwestern
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Dec 20, 2009 1:39am
Though it's not the most balanced talent wise, I'd just go East/West. And you never know how good programs will be 10+, or even 5+ years from now.
East
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Penn State
Indiana
Purdue
West
Missouri
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Illinois
Northwestern
East
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Penn State
Indiana
Purdue
West
Missouri
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Illinois
Northwestern
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peoplerfunny
Posts: 81
Dec 20, 2009 7:38am
Why Missouri ??
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Sonofanump
Dec 20, 2009 12:59pm
I just posted this on another thread without seeing yours.Laley23 wrote: The best divisions for the 2 big sports (football and basketball) while keeping rivalries in tact, imo are:
Division 1:
-Wisconsin
-Minnesota
-Iowa
-Penn State
-Michigan State
-Missouri
Division 2:
-Indiana
-Purdue
-Ohio State
-Michigan
-Illinois
-Northwestern
I think if Pitt gets in over Mizzo, switch MSU.
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Dec 20, 2009 3:34pm
WRONG, after Michigan Ohio State's biggest rival is Penn State. Penn State considers Ohio State their biggest rival.Laley23 wrote: The best divisions for the 2 big sports (football and basketball) while keeping rivalries in tact, imo are:
Division 1:
-Wisconsin
-Minnesota
-Iowa
-Penn State
-Michigan State
-Missouri
Division 2:
-Indiana
-Purdue
-Ohio State
-Michigan
-Illinois
-Northwestern
WRONG, Michigan and Michigan State in different Divisions?? A HUGE in state rivalry.
You're putting Penn State, the Eastern most school, in the same division with the 4 Western most schools??? Penn State will NEVER EVER accept that alignment.
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Dec 20, 2009 3:49pm
Penn State and Michigan State MUST be in "Division 2". Put Illinois and Northwestern where they belong with the 4 Western most schools. The dividing line between the 2 Divisions should be the Indiana, Illinois State line, very simple.Sonofanump wrote:I just posted this on another thread without seeing yours.Laley23 wrote: The best divisions for the 2 big sports (football and basketball) while keeping rivalries in tact, imo are:
Division 1:
-Wisconsin
-Minnesota
-Iowa
-Penn State
-Michigan State
-Missouri
Division 2:
-Indiana
-Purdue
-Ohio State
-Michigan
-Illinois
-Northwestern
I think if Pitt gets in over Mizzo, switch MSU.
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Sonofanump
Dec 20, 2009 3:49pm
Divisions is for setting up a conference champ. Not like UM and MSU would not play each other each year.